Help Sexing & WTF's with offset nodes

Buds4Fun

Active Member
OK. Strain is Haze Freak, Stavia Dom.
1. Its been in 12/12 for a week and has tiny preflowers, no hairs. Some stipules cross to form a V like shape, Ive read this indicates female? is that 100%?
I have just changes light cycle to 11/13

2. Why are alot of its nodes off set?



 

Dr. Who

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It's female!

Offset nodes are for the better formation of buds by the plant giving them space to grow.

If you start from seed - they are generally across from one another or balanced. They "offset" in the stretch and continue that way for the boom period.

Clone will always be offset or alternating.
 

Buds4Fun

Active Member
It's female!

Offset nodes are for the better formation of buds by the plant giving them space to grow.

If you start from seed - they are generally across from one another or balanced. They "offset" in the stretch and continue that way for the boom period.

Clone will always be offset or alternating.
Damn, I like your attitude!
What makes you say she is a "girl" ?
It was indeed started from seed and I have only just noticed the offset.
 

Dr. Who

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Damn, I like your attitude!
What makes you say she is a "girl" ?
It was indeed started from seed and I have only just noticed the offset.
43 years of looking at them (the offset is a good indicator too) !

I can look at straight runs and "see" the males while there still in Solo cups....I set the males aside for possible pollen collection.
I haven't been wrong in decades.....It's kinda hard to explain other then all those years looking at them......But, I'll take stab at it for you.

Females are shorter and branch out faster/more.
Males tend to be taller faster and less branching early.
This can show by about an average of 1/3 difference in height while still in Solo's..

This is a simple rough outline from personal experience and most likely there are things in my mind that click upon seeing them that I did not list. The "art" of sexing by sight early on is something that you will simply have to learn.....

Like I said I'll run the separated males (throwing out the weaker smaller ones as I go) till I have the one I want to collect pollen from. This is true for only strains I want the pollen from. I used to set the "suspected" males out till they "confirmed" them selves. I had not made a missed call in a long, long,long time so I simply quit that and throw them out at seperation.....(OCD made me keep them to be sure I didn't loose a female)
 
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Buds4Fun

Active Member
43 years of looking at them (the offset is a good indicator too) !

I can look at straight runs and "see" the males while there still in Solo cups....I set the males aside for possible pollen collection.
I haven't been wrong in decades.....It's kinda hard to explain other them all those years looking at them......But, I'll take stab at it for you.

Females are shorter and branch out faster/more.
Males tend to be taller faster and less branching early.
This can show by an average of 1/3 difference in height while still in Solo's..

This is a simple rough outline from personal experience and most likely there are things in my mind that click upon seeing them that I did not list. The "art" of sexing by sight early on is something that you will simply have to learn.....

Like I said I'll run the separated males (throwing out the weaker smaller ones as I go) till I have the one I want to collect pollen from. This is true for only strains I want the pollen from. I used to set the "suspected" males out till they "confirmed" them selves. I had not made a missed call in a long, long,long time so I simply quit that and throw them out at seperation.....(OCD made me keep them to be sure I didn't loose a female)
Well I hope your right! This thing has been FIMed a few times hence the bushyness. I look forward to learning by doing. Thanks again for your input.
 

budulyk

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my blueberry cheesecake has just done this offset node spacing too at day 21 ive noticed wasnt like that a few days ago was just gonna ask about this good shout note this was a femmed seed also
 

Greenhouse;save

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43 years of looking at them (the offset is a good indicator too) !

I can look at straight runs and "see" the males while there still in Solo cups....I set the males aside for possible pollen collection.
I haven't been wrong in decades.....It's kinda hard to explain other then all those years looking at them......But, I'll take stab at it for you.

Females are shorter and branch out faster/more.
Males tend to be taller faster and less branching early.
This can show by about an average of 1/3 difference in height while still in Solo's..

This is a simple rough outline from personal experience and most likely there are things in my mind that click upon seeing them that I did not list. The "art" of sexing by sight early on is something that you will simply have to learn.....

Like I said I'll run the separated males (throwing out the weaker smaller ones as I go) till I have the one I want to collect pollen from. This is true for only strains I want the pollen from. I used to set the "suspected" males out till they "confirmed" them selves. I had not made a missed call in a long, long,long time so I simply quit that and throw them out at seperation.....(OCD made me keep them to be sure I didn't loose a female)
And that's why........The doc is the man......
 

Kingrow1

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Hmmm, this sounds real flimsy advice.....!?


43 years of looking at them (the offset is a good indicator too) !

I can look at straight runs and "see" the males while there still in Solo cups....I set the males aside for possible pollen collection.
I haven't been wrong in decades.....It's kinda hard to explain other then all those years looking at them......But, I'll take stab at it for you.

Females are shorter and branch out faster/more.
Males tend to be taller faster and less branching early.
This can show by about an average of 1/3 difference in height while still in Solo's..

This is a simple rough outline from personal experience and most likely there are things in my mind that click upon seeing them that I did not list. The "art" of sexing by sight early on is something that you will simply have to learn.....

Like I said I'll run the separated males (throwing out the weaker smaller ones as I go) till I have the one I want to collect pollen from. This is true for only strains I want the pollen from. I used to set the "suspected" males out till they "confirmed" them selves. I had not made a missed call in a long, long,long time so I simply quit that and throw them out at seperation.....(OCD made me keep them to be sure I didn't loose a female)
 

HydroRed

Well-Known Member
43 years of looking at them (the offset is a good indicator too) !

I can look at straight runs and "see" the males while there still in Solo cups....I set the males aside for possible pollen collection.
I haven't been wrong in decades.....It's kinda hard to explain other then all those years looking at them......But, I'll take stab at it for you.

Females are shorter and branch out faster/more.
Males tend to be taller faster and less branching early.
This can show by about an average of 1/3 difference in height while still in Solo's..

This is a simple rough outline from personal experience and most likely there are things in my mind that click upon seeing them that I did not list. The "art" of sexing by sight early on is something that you will simply have to learn.....

Like I said I'll run the separated males (throwing out the weaker smaller ones as I go) till I have the one I want to collect pollen from. This is true for only strains I want the pollen from. I used to set the "suspected" males out till they "confirmed" them selves. I had not made a missed call in a long, long,long time so I simply quit that and throw them out at seperation.....(OCD made me keep them to be sure I didn't loose a female)
Female -I'd bet on it. ^^^This ......but worded better than I could have said.
I used to trip my bro out with my "lucky guesses" and lets just say he doesn't doubt me anymore with this :mrgreen:
 

Kingrow1

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Female -I'd bet on it. ^^^This ......but worded better than I could have said.
I used to trip my bro out with my "lucky guesses" and lets just say he doesn't doubt me anymore with this :mrgreen:
Im not saying its not possible but i am saying this advice seems to be a long shot from mainstream opinion, hec if your that good youd have a sticky where you could sex all the plants on these boards and save us a lot of time and effort in waiting for flowering to determin sex.

Personally i thought those preflowers looked like they were going to eventually turn female but as to accurate identification, i feel its still early days.
 

Dr. Who

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Im not saying its not possible but i am saying this advice seems to be a long shot from mainstream opinion, hec if your that good youd have a sticky where you could sex all the plants on these boards and save us a lot of time and effort in waiting for flowering to determin sex.

Personally i thought those preflowers looked like they were going to eventually turn female but as to accurate identification, i feel its still early days.
Gee, Thanks for nothing! That's exactly why I avoid the "is this a male" questions! I'd get locked into doing it for every one that comes down the pike! How frick'in many of those are posted everyday!!!!!
What the fuck is "mainstream" anyway? Back in my day, what I said was about the first thing your taught TO look for....No one wanted to flip the bloom "on and off" and I sure as hell don't to this day! Re vegging is stressful and I don't want stress if I can AVOID it.

Oh yeah you can add longer nodal spacing to the taller plant part too......Like I said. It's an "art" that's best learned and not taught!

Female -I'd bet on it. ^^^This ......but worded better than I could have said.
I used to trip my bro out with my "lucky guesses" and lets just say he doesn't doubt me anymore with this :mrgreen:
Your right! I could have done better too....I did pretty good and I still say it's simply more experience talking when I look at them. I mean it's simply automatic now, ya know?...
The thing is I was thinking I could go out to my grow sometime and really look at what I'm seeing to better explain.....Right now, not an option........:sad:
 

Kingrow1

Well-Known Member
Gee, Thanks for nothing! That's exactly why I avoid the "is this a male" questions! I'd get locked into doing it for every one that comes down the pike! How frick'in many of those are posted everyday!!!!!
What the fuck is "mainstream" anyway? Back in my day, what I said was about the first thing your taught TO look for....No one wanted to flip the bloom "on and off" and I sure as hell don't to this day! Re vegging is stressful and I don't want stress if I can AVOID it.

Oh yeah you can add longer nodal spacing to the taller plant part too......Like I said. It's an "art" that's best learned and not taught!



Your right! I could have done better too....I did pretty good and I still say it's simply more experience talking when I look at them. I mean it's simply automatic now, ya know?...
The thing is I was thinking I could go out to my grow sometime and really look at what I'm seeing to better explain.....Right now, not an option........:sad:
And you can do all that of the ops 3 photos hes posted.... dude thats not an art, thats a superpower, youll exscuse me and others that find this a little suspicious!
 

Dr. Who

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And you can do all that of the ops 3 photos hes posted.... dude thats not an art, thats a superpower, youll exscuse me and others that find this a little suspicious!
YUP!

We all have opinions we know what those are like....your excused...

Still gotta ask....Whats "mainstream" teaching anyway? guess I'm stuck in the rut of what I learned..

Give it time and pay attention. Old school at it's best!
 
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