Help Sexing & WTF's with offset nodes

Tektek

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Click to expand pic.
I think I see 2 stigmas from pointed tip of female pre flower. 3rd pic.
Pretty basic stuff.
 

Kingrow1

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YUP!

We all have opinions we know what those are like....your excused...

Still gotta ask....Whats "mainstream" teaching anyway? guess I'm stuck in the rut of what I learned..

Give it time and pay attention. Old school at it's best!
Your info has generally been dismissed over the years here. Mainstream for me is all the good info that has been perpetuated from overgrow to the present day.

Ive never had a male but i have had plenty of weird pre flowers hence why i post, but to hear you can sex a plant from a glance makes me wonder if a lot of growers are missing a trick or your info is still dismissed.
 

Dr. Who

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Your info has generally been dismissed over the years here. Mainstream for me is all the good info that has been perpetuated from overgrow to the present day.

Ive never had a male but i have had plenty of weird pre flowers hence why i post, but to hear you can sex a plant from a glance makes me wonder if a lot of growers are missing a trick or your info is still dismissed.
Hmm, your point has me more focused on taking some time and looking closer at exactly "how" I come to that conclusion too!
As I clear my present problem. I shall be taking the time to explore the issue from a more exacting study point.

Thanks for giving me the urge to do so..

Doc

I can say that the ratio I find is just a tic under 1 in 5. Average of like 3 out of 16...
 

Kingrow1

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Hmm, your point has me more focused on taking some time and looking closer at exactly "how" I come to that conclusion too!
As I clear my present problem. I shall be taking the time to explore the issue from a more exacting study point.

Thanks for giving me the urge to do so..

Doc

I can say that the ratio I find is just a tic under 1 in 5. Average of like 3 out of 16...
There is evidence that males can look subtley different to female in later veg and if you work with a strain long enough but ive yet to see much evidence so i remain open minded on the subject.

For me his weird pre flowers do look more female than male but i would never be sure till i see white pistils of fully formed pollen sacs. Im just glad that for once there werent 10 different posts saying it was male, hermie or worst still to cut it down.
 

HydroRed

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Merely opinion, but one I'm usually pretty good at giving haha. I dont ever tell anyone to cull, but more less prove me wrong. I wouldnt want to be responsible for that if I were wrong, ya know?
Im sure the op will hit us up in a week or two or whatever to let us know.
 

Velvet Elvis

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umm. looks like a dude to me. but ive only been at it for 21 years so hmmm. looks like little pollen sac

Ive ran alot of GGG gear with JO oG as the dad and many of the seedlings showed offset nodes right out the gates. half were males
 

Dr. Who

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There is evidence that males can look subtley different to female in later veg and if you work with a strain long enough but ive yet to see much evidence so i remain open minded on the subject.

For me his weird pre flowers do look more female than male but i would never be sure till i see white pistils of fully formed pollen sacs. Im just glad that for once there werent 10 different posts saying it was male, hermie or worst still to cut it down.
Single calyx formation at the branching points = female....Not weird.
 

Kingrow1

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Single calyx formation at the branching points = female....Not weird.
A calyx is not hard to identify and neither are male balls yet we see lots of imperfect examples (i freely cite this based on the amount of threads here including the ops photos).

To me it is perfectly natural but i use the term weird as it sets a distinction between clearly definable sexual characterisstics and those imperfect immature first preflowers that are prevelant in a lot of grows.
 

Buds4Fun

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Good to see I have sparked conversation even if it is a little on the aggressive side. I am two weeks into flower (one at 12/12 and one at 11/13). I noticed pre flowers before I flipped and I still have no definitive answer to sex. I feel like it's taking a long time. This strain has a flower period of 12-14 weeks would this prolong this stage? Thanks guys I appreciate all of your feedback.
 

Budley Doright

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Good to see I have sparked conversation even if it is a little on the aggressive side. I am two weeks into flower (one at 12/12 and one at 11/13). I noticed pre flowers before I flipped and I still have no definitive answer to sex. I feel like it's taking a long time. This strain has a flower period of 12-14 weeks would this prolong this stage? Thanks guys I appreciate all of your feedback.
Aggressive? No lol, this is actually quite polite compared to most lol. It would be cool to post up 10 young plants that the sex is now known and have a bit of a "male or female" thing :).
 

Kingrow1

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One thing i have noticed is that quite a large proportion of these male/female preflower threads turn out to be female. The female calyx is a vastly different structure to the male pollen pod, for one thing it employs a false leaf to act as a sheath around the seed and it is this particular leaf that i assume causes most of the weird preflowers and subsequent threads.

Of course this isnt mainstream, i have never seed a post on this either so who knows, just some thoughts.
 

Buds4Fun

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Ok so am I the only one that can't tell :(. And really can't u just force them or WAIT TILL THEY SHOW!!!
Force them as in photoperiod? Can I follis the apply super thrive? Will that incurage it? I am waiting. Just am too impatient, maybe I shouldn't have gone with a 14weeker :/
 

Budley Doright

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Force them as in photoperiod? Can I follis the apply super thrive? Will that incurage it? I am waiting. Just am too impatient, maybe I shouldn't have gone with a 14weeker :/
Throw it in to 12/12 to force it, cull then continue on, clone and reveg, or yes be patient lol.
 
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