USA move closer to equality in wages

What will increasing the minimum accompish?

  • Make a lot of workers very happy, and boost the economy

  • Cost jobs and drive businesses into bankruptcy

  • Nothing


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ChesusRice

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No, I'm saying if people don't vote for Clinton, it won't have anything to do with Bernie Sanders. You can play the blame game all you want, the person who will be to blame if Hillary Clinton loses the general election to Donald Trump will be... Hillary Clinton. If you expected to ridicule and condescend Sanders supporters the entire primary without any consequences, that was a pretty poor judgment on your part as the approval numbers attest to. Sanders supporters didn't do that.
Who you trying to fool?
I've heard from a few Sanders supporters and they are saying they are going to write him in or not vote.
Sounds to me like they would rather have Trump in then Clinton
Exactly like paulbots. At least they fucked over the Republicans
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Who you trying to fool?
I've heard from a few Sanders supporters and they are saying they are going to write him in or not vote.
Sounds to me like they would rather have Trump in then Clinton
Exactly like paulbots. At least they fucked over the Republicans
Writing in Sanders or not voting doesn't mean they would rather have Trump than Clinton, it means they would rather have Sanders than Trump or Clinton, and if Sanders isn't on the ballot, Clinton failed to persuade them or inspire them to vote
 

ChesusRice

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Writing in Sanders or not voting doesn't mean they would rather have Trump than Clinton, it means they would rather have Sanders than Trump or Clinton, and if Sanders isn't on the ballot, Clinton failed to persuade them or inspire them to vote
It means exactly that. They know that will be the result.
 

Padawanbater2

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It means exactly that. They know that will be the result.
Like I said before, take a little bit of responsibility

"Vote for my candidate or you want Trump!"

Uhh.. no, no matter how many times you repeat it

I don't want Trump, I don't want Clinton either, if I don't want either, why would I go vote for either?

"You don't want him more though"

Yeah, you'd be right about that, but not enough for me to give much of a fuck. I live in California, it's going to the democrat regardless of my vote, so no huge loss there

I'd vote for her if I lived in a swing state, but I wouldn't blame anyone who doesn't, she's a shitty candidate
 

ChesusRice

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Like I said before, take a little bit of responsibility

"Vote for my candidate or you want Trump!"

Uhh.. no, no matter how many times you repeat it

I don't want Trump, I don't want Clinton either, if I don't want either, why would I go vote for either?

"You don't want him more though"

Yeah, you'd be right about that, but not enough for me to give much of a fuck. I live in California, it's going to the democrat regardless of my vote, so no huge loss there

I'd vote for her if I lived in a swing state, but I wouldn't blame anyone who doesn't, she's a shitty candidate
She's going to be the only one on the ballot for the democrats.
Sanders won't be.
Would you rather have Trump?
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
I'm voting for Sanders if he gets the nomination.
I don't know why that's not crystal clear to you by now
You're saying I should vote for whoever the democrat is no matter what

I'm saying I think my vote is more important than that, a big part of that being me living in a state that makes my vote irrelevant. I have the luxury of being able to not vote. If I wanted Donald Trump to win, I'd vote for Donald Trump, since a red vote in CA is actually worth something
 

ttystikk

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You're saying I should vote for whoever the democrat is no matter what

I'm saying I think my vote is more important than that, a big part of that being me living in a state that makes my vote irrelevant. I have the luxury of being able to not vote. If I wanted Donald Trump to win, I'd vote for Donald Trump, since a red vote in CA is actually worth something
He's built his box and decided he won't think outside if it.

Other people call that prison.
 

ChesusRice

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You're saying I should vote for whoever the democrat is no matter what

I'm saying I think my vote is more important than that, a big part of that being me living in a state that makes my vote irrelevant. I have the luxury of being able to not vote. If I wanted Donald Trump to win, I'd vote for Donald Trump, since a red vote in CA is actually worth something
Every vote, non vote and vote for someone else counts
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Every vote, non vote and vote for someone else counts
Exactly right.

So maybe instead of browbeating everyone about their choices, you should make sure yours does what you really want it to.

If Mrs Clinton were a strong candidate who represented my needs in Washington, she'd have my vote!

Since she doesn't, I'll vote for the one who does.

That's called 'democracy'. As a fellow American, I completely understand your lack of familiarity with how the process works.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Exactly right.

So maybe instead of browbeating everyone about their choices, you should make sure yours does what you really want it to.

If Mrs Clinton were a strong candidate who represented my needs in Washington, she'd have my vote!

Since she doesn't, I'll vote for the one who does.

That's called 'democracy'. As a fellow American, I completely understand your lack of familiarity with how the process works.
If Sanders Ain't on the ballot
Who is that going to be bright boy?
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Trump will?
and Bright Boy wasn't accurate
Petulant child is a better description
Why don't you give us reasons to vote for Clinton other than "OMFG, DONALD TRUMP!!!!" if you want us to vote for her?

We're well aware Trump is an asshat, that's why we're not voting for him

Why should I vote for Clinton? What will she do for me or the things I care about?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Why don't you give us reasons to vote for Clinton other than "OMFG, DONALD TRUMP!!!!" if you want us to vote for her?

We're well aware Trump is an asshat, that's why we're not voting for him

Why should I vote for Clinton? What will she do for me or the things I care about?
Here's a good reason.
Trump
 
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