Mass Shooting at Florida Gay Club

OddBall1st

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What are you talking about? I already told you that the FBI doesn't pre approve murder and that's what you asked me. I don't understand your rambling post. Melting down are you?

Then why do you not recognize an admitted and confirmed ISIS terrorist killing in Florida Monday morning ? You wait for FBI approval, don`t you ?
 

bu$hleaguer

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People are horrible no matter where they are from or what color their skin is. If you're scared go to church, being terrified of life doesn't give people a right to discriminate. This is America ,the land of the free. Don't let your fears fuck that up, America was built on diversity, It is who we are, nobody can change that. Nobody should want to change that.
Well said. I don't want to change it at all, I just want this shit to stop.
 

Fogdog

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Then why do you not recognize an admitted and confirmed ISIS terrorist killing in Florida Monday morning ? You wait for FBI approval, don`t you ?
Dude, you can't tell the difference between your wild ass guess and a report from a credible source. It doesn't have to be the FBI but @OddBall1st has the credibility of Charlie Manson. I don't expect you to take my word for it either. My wild ass guess is that the guy had not made previous contact with ISIS and was just doing what nuts do when he shouted ISIS. Also that ISIS didn't know him from a stripper who uses Isis as a stage name. So, it's your wild ass guess against mine. Which basically means we don't really know.

Take a few deep breaths and repeat: "it's just an internet rumor" about a million times. It will do you good.
 

OddBall1st

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Dude, you can't tell the difference between your wild ass guess and a report from a credible source. It doesn't have to be the FBI but @OddBall1st has the credibility of Charlie Manson. I don't expect you to take my word for it either. My wild ass guess is that the guy had not made previous contact with ISIS and was just doing what nuts do when he shouted ISIS. Also that ISIS didn't know him from a stripper who uses Isis as a stage name. So, it's your wild ass guess against mine. Which basically means we don't really know.

Take a few deep breaths and repeat: "it's just an internet rumor" about a million times. It will do you good.
So the report from the 911 operator was What ? A misleading lie ?

You do know that there is no application to join or die for ISIS, correct ?
 

OddBall1st

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Dude, you can't tell the difference between your wild ass guess and a report from a credible source. It doesn't have to be the FBI but @OddBall1st has the credibility of Charlie Manson. I don't expect you to take my word for it either. My wild ass guess is that the guy had not made previous contact with ISIS and was just doing what nuts do when he shouted ISIS. Also that ISIS didn't know him from a stripper who uses Isis as a stage name. So, it's your wild ass guess against mine. Which basically means we don't really know.

Take a few deep breaths and repeat: "it's just an internet rumor" about a million times. It will do you good.

Why is it when a guy yells Christian, you believe and use as examples, but when a guy yells ISIS, you need more facts ?
 

Ace Yonder

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If you're scared go to church
Totally disagree. Haven't churches (and mosques and temples) done enough fucking harm already that we can stop recommending them to people? In the wake of yet another religion-inspired shooting you would think this would be even more abundantly clear. Scared people going to church is WHY shit like this keeps happening.
 

Ace Yonder

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Dude, you can't tell the difference between your wild ass guess and a report from a credible source. It doesn't have to be the FBI but @OddBall1st has the credibility of Charlie Manson. I don't expect you to take my word for it either. My wild ass guess is that the guy had not made previous contact with ISIS and was just doing what nuts do when he shouted ISIS. Also that ISIS didn't know him from a stripper who uses Isis as a stage name. So, it's your wild ass guess against mine. Which basically means we don't really know.

Take a few deep breaths and repeat: "it's just an internet rumor" about a million times. It will do you good.
I agree that he probably didn't have contact with ISIS before hand, but his father was pretty vocally pro-Taliban ("Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in [the] Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up”- Mateen's Father), and combined with the 911 call I have no reason to doubt that he was motivated by ISIS ideology even if he hadn't made contact. As a matter of fact, this tactic (inspiring independent acts of violence by previously unrelated supporters as opposed to planning each attack themselves) is, in part, what sets ISIS apart from previous terror groups. This is exactly what they want to happen, people with no previous contact to them sacrificing themselves to their cause while causing the maximum amount of carnage first.
 

abe supercro

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I do not know. He seems to be an important person though.

He has a facebook page but it is mostly in arabic. He posted a tshirt with his face on it yesterday.
It's the mass media attention of shootings that probably helped spawn him and others like him. That has nothing to do with isis.
 

Flaming Pie

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Why did you think I knew why the killer's father visited state dept.?

By the way, its too late to stalk him Pie. No need to hang around his facebook page. He won't answer your pleas for pillowing with him.
I wasnt saying you did. Just a picture I found interesting on his facebook page.

I didnt quote or refer to you.
 

OddBall1st

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It's the mass media attention of shootings that probably helped spawn him and others like him. That has nothing to do with isis.
He made the call before he acted. How can you say the media is to blame before he acted ?

Do you think repeating that this is the worst mass killing in US history will help keep the next numbers down ?
 
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