Help im week into flower

marleymaymay

marleymaymay

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hello everyone I am a week into flower and they look grate used 20-20-20 plant prod threw veg then week ago switched to plant prod 15-30-15 just want to know if this will be enough threw flower or will i need a booster or sum sort I am growing outdoors there Hugh i am also in Canada plz help and i know the food using ant that good but its what i have
 
Indacouch

Indacouch

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That is some seriously high N your feeding those plants especially in flower .......compared to what I feed my girls in flower hell even in veg .....but if that's all you have for veg that's one thing I guess but for flower I'd advise against it or just dilute the living piss out of it if that's your only option
 
cat of curiosity

cat of curiosity

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the 15-30-15 is going to cause a lot of problems if you use it more than once or twice. pot does not do well with super phosphates. a better ratio would be 1-2-3 (or any multiple thereof).

if it's all you've got, dilute it extremely, and feed 100ppms per watering session, twice on once off.

too much phosphorous results in a phos toxicity, which allows salt build up that alters ph and eventually leads to phos lockout/def. burns and purples galore.

hope this helps
 
marleymaymay

marleymaymay

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fuckkkkk eh so if i take them off the flowing food their on 15 30 15 what should i switch too ive been giving em about 1 tea spoon per 4L every week n thanks for info
 
marleymaymay

marleymaymay

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cat of curiosity said:
the 15-30-15 is going to cause a lot of problems if you use it more than once or twice. pot does not do well with super phosphates. a better ratio would be 1-2-3 (or any multiple thereof).

if it's all you've got, dilute it extremely, and feed 100ppms per watering session, twice on once off.

too much phosphorous results in a phos toxicity, which allows salt build up that alters ph and eventually leads to phos lockout/def. burns and purples galore.

hope this helps
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fuckkkkk eh so if i take them off the flowing food their on 15 30 15 what should i switch too ive been giving em about 1 tea spoon per 4L every week n thanks for info
 
marleymaymay

marleymaymay

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Indacouch said:
That is some seriously high N your feeding those plants especially in flower .......compared to what I feed my girls in flower hell even in veg .....but if that's all you have for veg that's one thing I guess but for flower I'd advise against it or just dilute the living piss out of it if that's your only option
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fuckkkkk eh so if i take them off the flowing food their on 15 30 15 what should i switch too ive been giving em about 1 tea spoon per 4L every week n thanks for info
 
marleymaymay

marleymaymay

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its weird its so high P they seem to love veg i mean they were Hugh before flower sum even almost 12 ft n topped lol shows what i know i need help i just wanna get a good yield outta what i got
 
cat of curiosity

cat of curiosity

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marleymaymay said:
its weird its so high P they seem to love veg i mean they were Hugh before flower sum even almost 12 ft n topped lol shows what i know i need help i just wanna get a good yield outta what i got
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20-20-20 is like a 1-1-1 (diluted)

roses and other acidic loving plants do well with that 15-30-15, but pot doesn't do well with too much of it, and prefers higher potassium (k).

get a tds pen (ten dollars) and check your water, then add 1-200 ppm of the fertilizer, if you can't find something better.
 
marleymaymay

marleymaymay

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cat of curiosity said:
20-20-20 is like a 1-1-1 (diluted)

roses and other acidic loving plants do well with that 15-30-15, but pot doesn't do well with too much of it, and prefers higher potassium (k).

get a tds pen (ten dollars) and check your water, then add 1-200 ppm of the fertilizer, if you can't find something better.
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think i should switch back too 20 20 20 then really water it down ??? so the 15 30 15 isn't so high ?? just a thought loll
 
Indacouch

Indacouch

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marleymaymay said:
think i should switch back too 20 20 20 then really water it down ??? so the 15 30 15 isn't so high ?? just a thought loll
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You have no way to get better nutes .....I understand of you can't and you can try and make do with what you've got watering it down .....the 15-30-15 is what I'd be watering down if that's all I had for flower just to keep the N down .....but if you could just buy some decent bloom nutes you'd be set sounds like
 
marleymaymay

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Indacouch said:
You have no way to get better nutes .....I understand of you can't and you can try and make do with what you've got watering it down .....the 15-30-15 is what I'd be watering down if that's all I had for flower just to keep the N down .....but if you could just buy some decent bloom nutes you'd be set sounds like
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i live in Canada where all thats around is Walmart home depot and kents lol think i could fine sum there ?? where i live theirs no grow shops or anything
 
bluntmassa1

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marleymaymay said:
i live in Canada where all thats around is Walmart home depot and kents lol think i could fine sum there ?? where i live theirs no grow shops or anything
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Damn, I'm in the US and have about the same problem but I'm not far from Canada. Lol

Although not too bad of a problem them grow shops charge way too much money for watered down nutrients that are not even complete. Meanwhile I never had a problem growing anything with cheap nutrients.
 
Indacouch

Indacouch

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marleymaymay said:
i live in Canada where all thats around is Walmart home depot and kents lol think i could fine sum there ?? where i live theirs no grow shops or anything
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Ahhh that makes sense on your situation .......well that's what I'd do is just water that second one down if I were in your shoes .......or order some goodies on line ..........but that's just my opinion personally hope it helped I'm sure there will be many others that differ from mine but there's my 2 cents .......good luck and put up some pics and what you ended up doing in this situation and how it turned out. Happy growing To each there own
 
marleymaymay

marleymaymay

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bluntmassa1 said:
Damn, I'm in the US and have about the same problem but I'm not far from Canada. Lol

Although not too bad of a problem them grow shops charge way too much money for watered down nutrients that are not even complete. Meanwhile I never had a problem growing anything with cheap nutrients.
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lol sounds good to me man you sound like you know do you use anything to get better yield threw flowering like black strap er sugars ??
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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marleymaymay said:
lol sounds good to me man you sound like you know do you use anything to get better yield threw flowering like black strap er sugars ??
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No, I just use Jacks Classic or organic mostly Jacks Classic on herb but eventually I will have enough organic shit to work with. I've tried a few of them cannabis specific nute lines and I found good old Jacks Classic does just as good in a side by side.
 
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