Dear Black Voter..

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
So to you it's a fact that black people are "to blame" for Trump getting elected?

What the fuck is wrong with your brain, seriously?

Want some actual facts?

•Hillary smashed the primary and the general.

•Sanders lost, overwhelmingly.

•You have never voted for Sanders even once in your entire life

•You voted for Hillary

But some how it was "black people's fault"?
This is not MY fact..it's those who keep records. I listed 4 links.

There are more.

You didn't answer me. Are you black?

Continuing to blame the messenger.

You are doomed to repeat, Snearing Ninja..you don't learn SHITE!

FTW answer my question about the web or are you too AFRAID to start that conversation?

PUSSY!
 

SneekyNinja

Well-Known Member
Why would it be my inference when it's fact?

Or is it about misogyny toward the messenger..again? You just don't want ME to be able to ask questions and have the conversation.

What are you afraid of? Are you black?
Misogyny? Unfuckingbelievable.

You think if a man spoke as racist and retarded as you do that I wouldn't call them out for it?

What web are you ranting about?

You need to calm down, you're getting all emotional.
 

tampee

Well-Known Member
By not voting, you allowed someone with waaaayyyyyyyyy less votes to potentially take away SS, DISABILITY/Medicare and Medicaid checks..Meals On Wheels, Vet Services, Pell Grant etc.

Anyone here on disability? Medicaid? SS? SNAP??..have a school loan?? Meals on fucking Wheels so old people can STAY in their homes??????

If you or someone you know gets those services? By NOT voting, that was a vote AGAINST..

By having to ask the question, YOU are the problem.
Calm down, I don't think he is going to take your retard check.

Also what does it have to do with black people?? White people were going on about a protest vote because Hillary stole the primary from Sanders who I also voted for. I named off several logical reasons many black people wouldn't think about voting for Hillary. I actually voted for Johnson but I still like Trump better than Hillary.

But thanks for letting everyone know you are a racist like @UncleBuck :)
 

tampee

Well-Known Member
Soooooooooooo, black people don't like the word 'black'..what word should I use?
You can call us Americans instead of lumping us in the same group. It's like saying all white people are trailer trash. You have a racist view of black people when in reality we don't all act like rappers some act like civilized humans too.

Most have even heard about Bernie Sanders but not everyone keeps up with politics because in the end Revolution is the solution. Nothing is going to change in the next 2-4-10 years the government will continue to fuck us all even Obama went balls deep fucking poor black people along with poor Americans regardless of race or color.
 

zeddd

Well-Known Member
This is not MY fact..it's those who keep records. I listed 4 links.

There are more.

You didn't answer me. Are you black?

Continuing to blame the messenger.

You are doomed to repeat, Snearing Ninja..you don't learn SHITE!

FTW answer my question about the web or are you too AFRAID to start that conversation?

PUSSY!
Hormonal?
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
While I agree black voter turnout was indeed way lower than expected it can't be denied that there were other factors that gave us a Trump Presidency call it the perfect storm of politics.

White women helped Trump get elected both non college and college educated the facts bare this out.

Although Florida is on the east coast it was too close to call and results didn't come in until AFTER the west coast polls closed meantime the states of Pa., MI. and Wis. we're called for Trump pushing him over the top...less than 80,000 votes total. Pa. = 44,292, Mi. = 10,704, Wi. = 22,748.

In my voting state alone (Pa.) there were 7 counties that voted for Trump with little number of blacks in it (Northampton, Carbon, Montour, Lucerne, Columbia, Pike and Bucks)

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president

https://qz.com/833003/election-2016-all-women-voted-overwhelmingly-for-clinton-except-the-white-ones/
Here's another good reason Clinton lost, and the Democratic Party has yet to learn a fucking thing from their disaster;
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/05/26/democrats-lemmings-search-cliff-why-you-shouldnt-bet-ranch-2018
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Oh! Im sorry..thought you were part of the group that doesn't like me referring to black people as black.
Blaming "black voters" for Trump's election is pretty racist. First off, it's absurd to say that they all voted the same way. Secondly, even if you break down how many black people voted for each candidate, it is obvious that the percentage of black voters who voted for Trump is an extremely minuscule minority. Thirdly, the reason so many people didn't vote is that there was no candidate worth voting for, even in the primaries, they were all complete garbage, Especially Bernard the imperialist pro-war sheepdog.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
lmao i didnt even read... bernie wouldve been a good president.. you know hes a socialist.. you know who else was a socialist? Hitler.
You're about as smart as a bag of wrenches. First off, Hitler was a fascist, the diametric opposite of a socialist. He may have called his regime "national socialism" but that's what politicians do, they lie. Fascism is a form of capitalism, hence the privatization. Bernard is a liberal. He's not even a social democrat, he's just a liberal. He has never mentioned in any document or speech any intention or willingness to curb privatization of any industry, not even healthcare. Please use only words you are able to define, or just stfu.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Blaming "black voters" for Trump's election is pretty racist. First off, it's absurd to say that they all voted the same way. Secondly, even if you break down how many black people voted for each candidate, it is obvious that the percentage of black voters who voted for Trump is an extremely minuscule minority. Thirdly, the reason so many people didn't vote is that there was no candidate worth voting for, even in the primaries, they were all complete garbage, Especially Bernard the imperialist pro-war sheepdog.
It's easy to be against everything. Enjoy your sneering solitude up there in your Ivory tower.

Meanwhile, Bernie is making a mockery of the Democratic Party PRECISELY by trying to work with them. It's become shockingly clear to everyone that the establishment Democrats have alienated much of the country. He's the one who made it obvious to the whole country that they'd rather keep sucking the dark money SuperPAC cock- even if it means losing- than actually listen to the vast majority of their constituents.

I think it's time you gave Bernie a lot more credit and a much closer look, otherwise you could be chilling in your ivory tower for a long time- all by yourself.

Have a read;
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/05/26/democrats-lemmings-search-cliff-why-you-shouldnt-bet-ranch-2018
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Bernie... mockery... Democratic Party
You mean like how he campaigned for months for Hillary? He's garbage. You always defend hom without actually addressing the points I make against him. You just say shit like "sneering" "Ivory Tower" "you don't like anyone" "blah blah blah platitudes". He is complete fucking garbage and I am not only entitled to that opinion, I have listed ad nauseam why I say that and while you are bound and determined to chime in, you offer nothing of substance regarding it except your feelings, which I have no regard for.

I don't fucking care how you feel about a politician, but if you have nothing worthwhile to argue, just stop responding to my criticism of Bernard the imperialist pro-war droning sheepdog who campaigned for Hillary.
 

SneekyNinja

Well-Known Member
And they still keep forgetting that Clinton only lost because of the "Californians are only 3/5ths" system...

She won the vote (by alot) and in any "normal electoral system" would have won.
 

SneekyNinja

Well-Known Member
You're about as smart as a bag of wrenches. First off, Hitler was a fascist, the diametric opposite of a socialist. He may have called his regime "national socialism" but that's what politicians do, they lie. Fascism is a form of capitalism, hence the privatization. Bernard is a liberal. He's not even a social democrat, he's just a liberal. He has never mentioned in any document or speech any intention or willingness to curb privatization of any industry, not even healthcare. Please use only words you are able to define, or just stfu.
Just a slight inaccuracy there, Hitler actually nationalised so called "strategic industries".
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
You mean like how he campaigned for months for Hillary? He's garbage. You always defend hom without actually addressing the points I make against him. You just say shit like "sneering" "Ivory Tower" "you don't like anyone" "blah blah blah platitudes". He is complete fucking garbage and I am not only entitled to that opinion, I have listed ad nauseam why I say that and while you are bound and determined to chime in, you offer nothing of substance regarding it except your feelings, which I have no regard for.

I don't fucking care how you feel about a politician, but if you have nothing worthwhile to argue, just stop responding to my criticism of Bernard the imperialist pro-war droning sheepdog who campaigned for Hillary.
So who's your candidate?

Who is out there campaigning for what you want to see? What policies do you want to see enacted?

I actually haven't seen your positions, only your diatribes. Even when I ask I'm ignored.

So the Ivory tower label fits until it doesn't.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Just a slight inaccuracy there, Hitler actually nationalised so called "strategic industries".
He never transferred ownership of any industry, company or corporation to the state or any other collective. He simply maintained cooperation and regulation. In fact, the most strategic industries had been previously nationalized including all energy, oil and infrastructure under the Weimar Republic which he subsequently had privatized. His regime was purely capitalist and it is well documented.
 

SneekyNinja

Well-Known Member
He never transferred ownership of any industry, company or corporation to the state or any other collective. He simply maintained cooperation and regulation. In fact, the most strategic industries had been previously nationalized including all energy, oil and infrastructure under the Weimar Republic which he subsequently had privatized. His regime was purely capitalist and it is well documented.
"During the 12 years of the Third Reich, government ownership expanded greatly into formerly private sectors of strategic industries: aviation, synthetic oil and rubber, aluminum, chemicals, iron and steel, and army equipment.

The capital assets of state-owned industry doubled during this same period, whereby the nationalization caused state-ownership of companies to increase to over 500 businesses..."

Facts, inconvenient sometimes.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Why so stuck on this rigid belief that I have to choose one when they are all terrible? I want a black liberationist socialist who is vehemently opposed to imperialist expansion. I will abstain until there is one.
That'sfar more of an answer than I've ever gotten from you. Thanks for that.

Enjoy your Ivory tower, the rest of us are working on this thing called progress.
 
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