Why do Republicans hate Iran but love Saudi Arabia?

ttystikk

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Take away a liberal's ability to call names, and he (i.e. you) has no ammunition. Because you don't think - you simply react. With hate.

You liberals are SO predictable.

I'm praying for you, tty...
Don't pray for me.

Pray that our country survives its encounter with people who will vote and advocate in direct opposition to their own best interest.
 

ttystikk

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Well,

1. I absolutely AM a pussy (with no fish smell).

2. I never want acceptance from liberals. And especially not from you. You are a disgusting lump of diseased human (and other) cells, but it's kinda fun to play with you.

Make no mistake Buck: I NEVER want acceptance from any liberal. The least of which being you.
Oh, I see that no name-calling thing of yours lasted a long time...

Stupid.
 

ZaraBeth420

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Oh, I see that no name-calling thing of yours lasted a long time...

Stupid.
I didn't call Buck a name. Although he's called me numerous names, all with the protection of the so-called moderators, even though the rules prohibit name-calling.

Yes, because I'm human, I've sometimes retaliated here. But you know what happened then ty? I got the fucking slowdown.

Yes, you (a liberal) can call me (a conservative) all sorts of names, with no restriction whatsoever. Yet if I recriprocate, I get the slowdown.

So don't feel like you're a debate king if I don't return your name-calling with likewise - I simply can't, or I'll get the slowdown for a month. I just got off of that, and I don't want to get it again.
 

im4satori

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theres always an idealistic front to every propaganda piece
but its just a front, its always about the money

they say its about freedom of this or that but its all bullshit

I thought I remembered a story about the bush family and dick chainy fucking over the ben ladin family in years past over some business deals revolving around oil and an elemental resource worth billions used for making batteries that was being mined

maybe someone else can tell it better than me
 

im4satori

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I try not to do the name calling

but on occasion you meet someone whos both intelligent and yet stupid and the frustration boils over and you just cant help yourself

and when they hide behind a façade of moral or patriotic high ground, thryre usually the ones blowing someone in a public bathroom stall or diddling kids
 

im4satori

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part of the political problem is that most people are 1 or 2 issue people

meaning all they care about is that 1 or 2 issues

for example;
you could have the best qualified and most honest charitable person on the planet running against a huge douche bag

and a large % of the population will vote for the douche bag simply because he claims hes against abortion yet hes stealing from sick kids on the sly

many religious people would vote for charley manson if he was the republican candidate and came out against abortion

this is the single most problematic issue to the democrats
 

im4satori

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meanwhile not a one of those mother fuckers is going to change the law, despite what they say
I can imagine;
trumps stands there and thinks, all I gotta do is switch my position on abortion and I can be president of the US

whats he gonna do?
 

Fogdog

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Yes, you (a liberal) can call me (a conservative) all sorts of names, with no restriction whatsoever. Yet if I recriprocate, I get the slowdown.
When the radical right calls for voter suppression, outright murder of Muslims on suspicion of being a terrorist, using ICE agents to cow Latino voters, endorse policies that would degrade air, water and climate, make it easier for cops to kill young black men, increase penalties for nonviolent drug offenders, endorse legislation that would cut taxes on the wealthy while increasing spending to balloon the debt and support a president who made fun of a disabled person, then yeah, it's completely reasonable for me to call you all sorts of names because I've done nothing to match what you and your kind have done to this country.
 

im4satori

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When the radical right calls for voter suppression, outright murder of Muslims on suspicion of being a terrorist, using ICE agents to cow Latino voters, endorse policies that would degrade air, water and climate, make it easier for cops to kill young black men, increase penalties for nonviolent drug offenders, endorse legislation that would cut taxes on the wealthy while increasing spending to balloon the debt and support a president who made fun of a disabled person, then yeah, it's completely reasonable for me to call you all sorts of names because I've done nothing to match what you and your kind have done to this country.
well said

all that and yet theres still so much more

its literally overwhelming
 

im4satori

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I always wondered about the hole oil conspiracy theory regarding our tinkering around in the middle east

when we went into Iraq and didn't take the oil I remember thinking, that's strange, if where not here to take the oil then why the fuck are we here

so I decided to find out how it works

disclaimer; this is a description based on my foggy stoner memory !

its not about taking the oil, its about controlling the flow of the oil

the transport of oil is a large part of the cost

going into Iraq was to destabilize control or disrupt corporate world investors for investing/building pipeline in the region that would favor other counties, for example china and india
investors wont pu the money into a region of the world that's unstable cuz the locals will blow up the pipelines and shit like that

at the moment most of the oil passes thru the port out of isreal and then its transported by boat to us and china and everyone else so the costs are about the same for everyone
(ever wonder why we always back isreal? it aint cuz we feel sorry for the jews)

if they build a pipe line from iran directly to china, china and other counties (Russia) will have a significant economic advantage over the US on the cost of oil

so theyre trying to set the market price by fiddling with shit and hiding behind freedom and democracy or even religion and human rights
 
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im4satori

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imagine how much fuel costs would go down for Russia and india and china if they didn't have to transport there oil by boat all the way around Africa to reach the coast of china or wherever

if they had a pipeline that went direct from the middle east to that region with no ships or ports we would have a catastrophic economic disadvantage

imagine how much there consumption would increase if the fuel cost where less in india

don't get it wrong democrats are on board also
imagine how hard it would be to get china to cut green house gas if there fuel costs where going down

so we leave the paris climate agreement to make it easier for russia and china to also do so
 

ttystikk

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I didn't call Buck a name. Although he's called me numerous names, all with the protection of the so-called moderators, even though the rules prohibit name-calling.

Yes, because I'm human, I've sometimes retaliated here. But you know what happened then ty? I got the fucking slowdown.

Yes, you (a liberal) can call me (a conservative) all sorts of names, with no restriction whatsoever. Yet if I recriprocate, I get the slowdown.

So don't feel like you're a debate king if I don't return your name-calling with likewise - I simply can't, or I'll get the slowdown for a month. I just got off of that, and I don't want to get it again.
The reason I describe you as stupid is because of your political choices. You steadfastly refuse to make the effort to think through the consequences, content instead to blame someone- anyone- else for the mounting mess cause by those you vote for.
 

ttystikk

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imagine how much fuel costs would go down for Russia and india and china if they didn't have to transport there oil by boat all the way around Africa to reach the coast of china or wherever

if they had a pipeline that went direct from the middle east to that region with no ships or ports we would have a catastrophic economic disadvantage

imagine how much there consumption would increase if the fuel cost where less in india

don't get it wrong democrats are on board also
imagine how hard it would be to get china to cut green house gas if there fuel costs where going down

so we leave the paris climate agreement to make it easier for russia and china to also do so
Coal is the worst; loaded with heavy metals, particulates and make the most CO2.

Fuel oil is better, less contaminants, less CO2.

Gasoline is an improvement, again less CO2. Unless 2-stroke, then there's a lot of particulates again.

Best fossil fuels are natural gas, ethane and propane; very few contaminants, can run indoors because they don't make carbon monoxide, least amout of CO2 generated per BTU. Natural gas can also be feedstock for fuel cells, an even more efficient way to make electricity than burning it.

Not all fossil fuels are the same in terms of pollution or global warming.

Therefore, the more natural gas and the less coal burned relative to the total, the better. This is the basic reason why America is reducing its CO2 footprint even without painful changes such as forcing gas powered vehicles off the roads in favor of electric.

It gives us time to upgrade our infrastructure, and it can do the same for the rest of the world too.
 
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