Democratic Voters Are Done with Party Centrists—and the Progressives Are a Majority

ttystikk

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And you getting Trump elected is totally helping the country.

When you gonna fuck off and renounce your Democrat registration and sign up to the new party to Nader the left and give Trump another win?
Tell us again how the Democratic saved the country- for the banksters, leaving millions of homeowners sleeping in their cars.
 

SneekyNinja

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Tell us again how the Democratic saved the country- for the banksters, leaving millions of homeowners sleeping in their cars.
By not letting it fall to ruin because of the failures of the previous administration?

I suppose it's Obama's fault that so many people bought houses they couldn't afford through a downturn, amirite?

I suppose it's Obamas fault that we're a nation of consumers and discarders?

You people spend hours and hours crying online everyday because you want everything handed to you...

Maybe if you put your time and effort into educating yourself in something you might actually be able to achieve it yourself?

The problem with this country is that people havent got equal opportinities for success and yet its the privileged whites who are making the most noise and ignoring the people whos opportunity was precluded by the institutional racism you want to ignore.
 

ttystikk

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By not letting it fall to ruin because of the failures of the previous administration?

I suppose it's Obama's fault that so many people bought houses they couldn't afford through a downturn, amirite?

I suppose it's Obamas fault that we're a nation of consumers and discarders?

You people spend hours and hours crying online everyday because you want everything handed to you...

Maybe if you put your time and effort into educating yourself in something you might actually be able to achieve it yourself?

The problem with this country is that people havent got equal opportinities for success and yet its the privileged whites who are making the most noise and ignoring the people whos opportunity was precluded by the institutional racism you want to ignore.
Ah, so record profits for the banks and record bonuses for the banksters are fine, and all those homeowners got robosigned out of their homes because it was their own fault.

And I'm the idiot?

And pay no attention to who underwrote the multiple speaking engagements for $400k apiece.

Gosh, no obvious connection there...
 

londonfog

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Start at 3:00 and Mr Obama will tell you himself by 3:30.

And it's 'ignorant about this', genius.

Rest assured, I'm not going anywhere. Someone has to provide a counterpoint to the great unwashed, uneducated and grammatically challenged.
I know, you can't handle that kind of high tech.

If you could, you'd see Mr Obama saying it himself.
Damn you really are so stupid you didn't understand the meaning of his speech. Stay the fuck off of youtube.

Your life is of a 50 old plus man who can't find a date, praying for 15 dollars an hour, because rich people are rich.
Too fucking cheap to take a lady on a date and spend hours on porn sites on the web to satisfy your lacking of love. What I miss ? oh and would love to wear the trousers in a relationship for once
 
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SneekyNinja

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Damn you really are so stupid you didn't understand the meaning of his speech. Stay the fuck off of youtube.

Your life is of a 50 old plus man who can't find a date, praying for 15 dollars an hour, because rich people are rich.
Too fucking cheap to take a lady on a date and spend hours on porn sites on the web to satisfy your lacking of love. What I miss ? oh and would love to wear the trousers in a relationship for once
Scathing but hilariously true, lol.
 

KillerIndica

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Damn you really are so stupid you didn't understand the meaning of his speech. Stay the fuck off of youtube.

Your life is of a 50 old plus man who can't find a date, praying for 15 dollars an hour, because rich people are rich.
Too fucking cheap to take a lady on a date and spend hours on porn sites on the web to satisfy your lacking of love. What I miss ? oh and would love to wear the trousers in a relationship for once
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You seem upset. Millennial?
 

UncleBuck

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I don't see anyone defending Republicans. No one seems to think they're worth defending.

I just see you poor benighted souls continually defending Democrats as if they're much better or indeed very different.

This is how your beloved Savior, Barack Obama, is seen by the outside world, in this case British journalists;

The US Presidential Election 2012

This is a US election that defies logic and brings the nation closer towards a one-party state masquerading as a two-party state.

The Democratic incumbent has surrounded himself with conservative advisors and key figures — many from previous administrations, and an unprecedented number from the Trilateral Commission. He also appointed a former Monsanto executive as Senior Advisor to the FDA. He has extended Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, presided over a spiralling rich-poor gap and sacrificed further American jobs with recent free trade deals. Trade union rights have also eroded under his watch. He has expanded Bush defence spending, droned civilians, failed to close Guantanamo, supported the NDAA which effectively legalises martial law, allowed drilling and adopted a soft-touch position towards the banks that is to the right of European Conservative leaders. Taking office during the financial meltdown, Obama appointed its principal architects to top economic positions. We list these because many of Obama's detractors absurdly portray him as either a radical liberal or a socialist, while his apologists, equally absurdly, continue to view him as a well-intentioned progressive, tragically thwarted by overwhelming pressures. 2008's yes-we-can chanters, dazzled by pigment rather than policy detail, forgot to ask can what? Between 1998 and the last election, Obama amassed $37.6million from the financial services industry, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. While 2008 presidential candidate Obama appeared to champion universal health care, his first choice for Secretary of Health was a man who had spent years lobbying on behalf of the pharmaceutical industry against that very concept. Hey! You don't promise a successful pub, and then appoint the Salvation Army to run it. This time around, the honey-tongued President makes populist references to economic justice, while simultaneously appointing as his new Chief of Staff a former Citigroup executive concerned with hedge funds that bet on the housing market to collapse. Obama poses something of a challenge to The Political Compass, because he's a man of so few fixed principles.
they have rawn pawl, the guy who wants to dismantle civil rights, as less authoritarian than anyone else?

LOL
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Damn you really are so stupid you didn't understand the meaning of his speech. Stay the fuck off of youtube.

Your life is of a 50 old plus man who can't find a date, praying for 15 dollars an hour, because rich people are rich.
Too fucking cheap to take a lady on a date and spend hours on porn sites on the web to satisfy your lacking of love. What I miss ? oh and would love to wear the trousers in a relationship for once
As usual, a witless diatribe that doesn't come anywhere near the debate.

Clearly it's the best you can manage.

Good luck trying to get people to take you seriously. I know I won't.
 

ttystikk

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What he says is entirely accurate.

And literally noone takes you seriously, we could do a poll and you'd be destroyed but it's against TOS.
Of course you'd agree. You can't be dragged kicking and screaming to a substantial debate, either.

Neither of you are worthy of anything but trolling.
 

Fogdog

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Ah, so record profits for the banks and record bonuses for the banksters are fine, and all those homeowners got robosigned out of their homes because it was their own fault.

And I'm the idiot?

And pay no attention to who underwrote the multiple speaking engagements for $400k apiece.

Gosh, no obvious connection there...
its a conspiracy. Your go to when you have nothing to say.
 

SneekyNinja

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You mean he'd lose a popularity contest. How...sophomore of you...
No I mean he's been debunked so many times, literally over and over that all that's left is to ridicule his stupid views.

No-one even disagrees with his philosophy overall, we just don't see torpedo'ing the Democrats as a way of getting progressive legislation passed.

Most also don't like the fact he thinks we should ignore racism and it'll disappear.

Or the fact he thinks he's an intellectual but spends his time posting blogs and literal fake news.

He even posted an article about how military commanders will have to follow a 650 step flowchart before making decisions from a place where the second article was "Joint Forces get arthritis".
 

travisw

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If you think it's just semantics, have a look at his record:

Labor Unions? No help.
Homeowners? On the street.
Banksters? Record profits.
Income inequality? Worse.
Wars? Up! From 2 to 7.
Defense spending? Also Up.
Drone strikes? Ohh yeah...

But hey- he did stick up for gays in the military!
Nothing for labor unions?

How Obama has tilted the workplace for unions
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/how-obama-has-tilted-the-workplace-for-unions/article/2601330


Obama labor board flexes its muscles
Organized labor will have more to celebrate this Labor Day than in decades thanks to a string of recent victories.
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/unions-barack-obama-labor-board-victories-213204

Obama’s Latest Lifeline for Unions
https://www.wsj.com/articles/obamas-latest-lifeline-for-unions-1454371263

The Obama Administration Just Delivered Another Big Victory to Unions
http://fortune.com/2016/03/23/obama-unions/

Obama administration spends millions to push labor unions overseas
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/10/golden-hammer-obama-administration-spends-millions/

Nothing for homeowners: His Home Affordable Modification Program helped about 1.6 million borrowers lower their mortgage and stay in their home.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/business/dealbook/foreclosure-prevention-mortgage-lending.html

Bank Profits: Were better under Bush 1 and were only about average under Obama.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4012069-clinton-trump-presidents-bank-stocks-1980sminus-2016?page=2

Income Inequality:
The Income Gap Began To Narrow Under Obama

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-income-gap-began-to-narrow-under-obama/

As to your war stuff, I totally agree wars are shitty. Does it mean he's a Republican? Fuck no.

How about you explain something for me? Given that during the two years Hillary and Bernie overlapped in the Senate, Sanders co-sponsored 19 pieces of legislation that Clinton introduced, while Clinton signed on in support of seven Sanders bills. Vote studies from Congressional Quarterly find that Clinton voted with the Senate Democratic leadership 99 percent of the time in 2008 and 98 percent in 2007. For Sanders, the rate was 98 and 97 percent, respectively, during those two years.
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/26/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-alike-426301.html

How in the fuck can you not see the differences between Obama and the republicans, but you see so much difference between Hillary and Bernard?







 
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