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schuylaar

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Jimdamick said:
Some of the ramifications

1- It shows the world that Trump is a fucking idiot, and that the Americans are sellouts
2- It will inflame the ME with more anti-American sentiments
3- It basically ended a two state solution between the Jews and the Palestinians, and the hope of peace in the ME between Israel and it's Arab neighbors

Besides those minor issues, it was a great idea.
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what two state solution? there never was going to be one per Bibi.
 
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schuylaar

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the good news is he has a doctor phobia too..he doesn't like to be touched..no less a proctology exam of poke and prod.

Hungry Heffer Sanders said yesterday in the Daily Lie Conference that he will undergo at Walter Reed early part of next year. this is the same as Trumps 'I'll tell you in two weeks'- it's not gonna happen OR over his dead body.
this non-action will be his undoing ie death. this is the second time it's happened during speech. the first was with water bottle. do you remember the way he grabbed the water bottle? his left hand in fist instead of grip around bottle? my prediction stands at sooner rather than later too.

he's hoping jerusalem = squirrel!
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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schuylaar said:
what two state solution? there never was going to be one per Bibi.
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Palestine can sit in limbo until they make the courageous decision to recognize Israels right to exist. There is no current path to peace and there won't be one until this changes. That's the reality.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Bugeye said:
Palestine can sit in limbo until they make the courageous decision to recognize Israels right to exist. There is no current path to peace and there won't be one until this changes. That's the reality.
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If they stole your ancestral land from your grandparents, bombed you on a regular basis while calling it 'mowing the lawn' and denied you the simple privileges of freedom of movement and humane treatment because of your heritage, would you want to recognize their right to exist? How about their chief benefactor deciding to move their embassy to your old capital- the embassy to the dispossessors, that is?

My goodness, but you have much to learn about the Middle East and America's role in it.
 
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ttystikk

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...and finally, the truth came out; one of the Chump's main donors is a guy named Sheldon Adelson, the multi billionaire casino magnate.

Shel has been asking Chump to do this very thing since before he was inaugurated and in fact has been calling the White House regularly to ask what's been taking so long.

So there ya have it; foreign policy by donor class.

Is this a great country or what?

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Bugeye

Bugeye

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ttystikk said:
If they stole your ancestral land from your grandparents, bombed you on a regular basis while calling it 'mowing the lawn' and denied you the simple privileges of freedom of movement and humane treatment because of your heritage, would you want to recognize their right to exist? How about their chief benefactor deciding to move their embassy to your old capital- the embassy to the dispossessors, that is?

My goodness, but you have much to learn about the Middle East and America's role in it.
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Too bad so sad, that is the history of the world we live in. Israel is not going away so at some point you accept that. The time to do something about it was 50 years ago.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Bugeye said:
Too bad so sad, that is the history of the world we live in. Israel is not going away so at some point you accept that. The time to do something about it was 50 years ago.
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Fifty and 75 years ago, Jewish Zionists were shooting, harassing and running peaceful if agrarian Palestinians off their land with the tacit permission and even active assistance of countries like the United States and England.

You make it sound so easy; what you are is wildly, deliberately misinformed of the actual history of the situation.

But I'm sure you thought those Indians standing in a North Dakota river whining about some pipeline were pretty dumb, too. They were just worried about their drinking water, after all. You know that same pipeline has already spilled over 210,000 gallons of unrefined heavy oil, right?

Have a drink, on me!
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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ttystikk said:
Fifty and 75 years ago, Jewish Zionists were shooting, harassing and running peaceful if agrarian Palestinians off their land with the tacit permission and even active assistance of countries like the United States and England.

You make it sound so easy; what you are is wildly, deliberately misinformed of the actual history of the situation.

But I'm sure you thought those Indians standing in a North Dakota river whining about some pipeline were pretty dumb, too. They were just worried about their drinking water, after all. You know that same pipeline has already spilled over 210,000 gallons of unrefined heavy oil, right?

Have a drink, on me!
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It is easy, Israel is not going away. Start with that premise and spare me your history lesson. You might think Manhattan should be given back to native tribes, that isn't going to happen either.
 
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ttystikk

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Bugeye said:
It is easy, Israel is not going away. Start with that premise and spare me your history lesson. You might think Manhatten should be given back to native tribes, that isn't going to happen either.
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*Manhattan- it's the original native American term for the island.

Maybe we should try harder at finding a solution that's as acceptable to the dispossessed as the aggressors.

Of course, America sucks at that sort of thing.
 
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