Twitter users bully woman into committing suicide for branding her homophobic

twostrokenut

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67%

Compared to 90%+ before is statistically significant.

And she's a porn star, she should take what dick she's told to take.

She might as well have been a server and she's decided she won't serve the gay couple incase she gets HIV.

Seriously, she does all unprotected scenes but won't do a scene with a bisexual male because of the 17% chance above 50-50.

Plus the men are tested as much as the women.

And no, she didn't deserve to die but she did deserve to be called out.
she should take what dick she's told to take......dude you are one of the more rational members here, this isnt rational.

you can't catch aids by serving food or even eating the same food, be real....its an std and the s doesn't stand for server.
 

Padawanbater2

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67%

Compared to 90%+ before is statistically significant.

And she's a porn star, she should take what dick she's told to take.

She might as well have been a server and she's decided she won't serve the gay couple incase she gets HIV.

Seriously, she does all unprotected scenes but won't do a scene with a bisexual male because of the 17% chance above 50-50.

Plus the men are tested as much as the women.

And no, she didn't deserve to die but she did deserve to be called out.
Wow
 

SneekyNinja

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Maybe if you could concentrate on something important for once you'd realize that the suicide of a porn actress over "hurt feels" isn't all that important to normal people.

Thoughts and prayers, but she shouldn't have publicly discriminated if she can't take the heat.

She deserves the choice of who to work with, absolutely, but she shouldn't have said that shit on Twitter and noone would have ever known or cared.
 

Padawanbater2

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So you have nothing but your belief. Belief without proof is a foundation of religion.
There is proof, I just listed it.. Woodfin and Carter. Both ran on populist progressive platforms and both won in deep red districts. While Ossoff tried to do the same as a neoliberal establishment Democrat backed by the entire political establishment and failed in humiliating fashion..
Too funny you claim that the 2008 democratic opponent to Sessions during the best nationwide performance at the polls by democrats in decades lost by a margin of 4.5% and you say it was because she wasn't progressive liberal enough. You say this without any proof of this assertion.
K, so how progressive was she? Did she support a $15 minimum wage, campaign finance reform, universal healthcare, free college, etc.? You tell me..
Alabama and many other states are populated by staunch right wing voters. Our job is to find ways to work with them or over time to convince them to vote on causes we want to become policies.
How do you plan on doing that? List policy positions you believe will change the minds of "staunch right wing voters"
 

Padawanbater2

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Maybe if you could concentrate on something important for once you'd realize that the suicide of a porn actress over "hurt feels" isn't all that important to normal people.

Thoughts and prayers, but she shouldn't have publicly discriminated if she can't take the heat.

She deserves the choice of who to work with, absolutely, but she shouldn't have said that shit on Twitter and noone would have ever known or cared.
You're a bigot
 

Fogdog

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There is proof, I just listed it.. Woodfin and Carter. Both ran on populist progressive platforms and both won in deep red districts. While Ossoff tried to do the same as a neoliberal establishment Democrat backed by the entire political establishment and failed in humiliating fashion..

K, so how progressive was she? Did she support a $15 minimum wage, campaign finance reform, universal healthcare, free college, etc.? You tell me..

How do you plan on doing that? List policy positions you believe will change the minds of "staunch right wing voters"
I'm asking for evidence of what you claim: A wellspring of populist liberal voters who sit silently in a deep red state rejecting Democrats and allowing deep conservatives to win because the Democrats don't meet a laundry list of policies. What you are saying borders on religion. "It's impossible to prove but I demand you agree with me anyway."

Those two people don't prove anything. A black man won the mayoral race in Birmingham. Lee Carter won a district race in the blue part of Virginia. Carter won one of 15 seats that were turned to Democrats. Both of your examples are completely not the same as a state-wide election for Senator in Alabama.

Nuh-uh. The simplest explanation is that Alabama is mostly populated with deeply conservative people. Conservatives win in red states because the people who live there want to be represented by conservative leaders.

Edit: Trump's approval rating in Alabama is 56%. This is one of the highest approval ratings in the country.
 
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Padawanbater2

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the suicide of a porn actress over "hurt feels" isn't all that important to normal people.
Suicide is important to everyone who's ever been close to someone who has committed suicide. It's pretty messed up to try to diminish their experience to try to make a point. This young woman who had her entire life ahead of her committed suicide in part because people like you pushed her to her limits. You call people racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. every single day here. It has an effect whether you admit it or not. That's not progressive, that's authoritarian. You're trying to control what people say. You're not trying to win any kind of debate between competing ideas because you know your ideas would lose. It's a bully tactic
she shouldn't have publicly discriminated
How did she publicly discriminate?
She deserves the choice of who to work with, absolutely, but she shouldn't have said that shit on Twitter and noone would have ever known or cared.
Read the exchange
 

twostrokenut

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Maybe if you could concentrate on something important for once you'd realize that the suicide of a porn actress over "hurt feels" isn't all that important to normal people.

Thoughts and prayers, but she shouldn't have publicly discriminated if she can't take the heat.

She deserves the choice of who to work with, absolutely, but she shouldn't have said that shit on Twitter and noone would have ever known or cared.
normal people? what about transgender suicide rate of 40%? should "normal people" not care there either?
 

Fogdog

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Suicide is important to everyone who's ever been close to someone who has committed suicide. It's pretty messed up to try to diminish their experience to try to make a point. This young woman who had her entire life ahead of her committed suicide in part because people like you pushed her to her limits. You call people racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. every single day here. It has an effect whether you admit it or not. That's not progressive, that's authoritarian. You're trying to control what people say. You're not trying to win any kind of debate between competing ideas because you know your ideas would lose. It's a bully tactic

How did she publicly discriminate?

Read the exchange
Yeah, yeah. She never would have committed suicide until her feelz got hurt when she said shit that basically would have put other people out of work if it were believable.

She was entitled to refuse to work on those jobs that included gay or bisexual men. She was entitled to say what she said. The people who saw what she said was broadly telling other female porn actresses to refuse to work with gay or bisexual men as an unfair threat to people's livelihood were entitled to say what they said.

It is unfair to threaten other people's livelihood with innuendo. She was entitled to say what she said but then she had to face the consequences. In any case, she had plenty of other problems. You are making this issue up.
 

twostrokenut

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"Whichever (lady) performer is replacing me tomorrow for @EroticaXNews, you're shooting with a guy who has shot gay porn, just to let cha know. BS is all I can say. Do agents really not care about who they're representing? #ladirect I do my homework for my body," she wrote Dec. 3.
 

Fogdog

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no, quite poor actually. Poor thinking on your part.

She smeared fellow workers with a false claim that they were infected and implied that other actresses should not work with them. I don't care what industry a person works in, that's going to get severe blowback from the people whose livelihood is threatened.

You are just working your old tired anti-pc saw and can't see or refuse to acknowledge the meaning behind what she said. She said gay men are too high of a risk for her to work with. Also denied that testing could keep her safe. The implication is that they shouldn't find work with any actress. It was a fucked up homophobic thing to say.
 

legalcanada

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This young woman who had her entire life ahead of her committed suicide in part because people like you pushed her to her limits.
that's absolute bullshit. she could have signed off twitter or done anything else. she committed suicide because she was mentally unstable and society has created a victim mentality where words are weapons. odds are if she committed suicide and was performing in porn she was addicted to drugs, sexually or physically abused in her life, or had some other major issues besides being insulted on the internet and probably shouldn't be on twitter and saying inflammatory things if she has that thin of skin or that unstable.

what if a gay person had committed suicide because of what she said? would she be the evil person then and not the victim? if someone is offended by something somebody says it is their own problem. there's a million ways to deal with a situation, if you choose to kill yourself it was absolutely your own choice. she's 23 not fucking 9. this whole victim mentality safe space bullshit is just another way to chip away at the 1st amendment.

frankly i think you are being disrespectful and offensive to the millions of people who have depression but wake up every day and face the world with a smile in spite of it, rather than trying to blame everyone for all of their own actions
 

Fogdog

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Suicide is important to everyone who's ever been close to someone who has committed suicide. It's pretty messed up to try to diminish their experience to try to make a point. This young woman who had her entire life ahead of her committed suicide in part because people like you pushed her to her limits. You call people racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. every single day here. It has an effect whether you admit it or not. That's not progressive, that's authoritarian. You're trying to control what people say. You're not trying to win any kind of debate between competing ideas because you know your ideas would lose. It's a bully tactic

How did she publicly discriminate?

Read the exchange
Cry me a river with your made up claims. She suffered from several issues including childhood abuse and bipolar disorder. The backlash she received was in response to her threats to the livelihood of fellow workers. What she said was completely fucked up and the people she threatened had every right to an appropriate response. Calling her homophobic was calling what she said like it is.

Behind the scenes, Ames reportedly struggled with bipolar depression and multiple personality disorder ― problems she discussed three months ago in a podcast with porn director Holly Randall.

“Some days I’ll be fine and if I’m not doing anything, I’ll get these awful flashbacks of my childhood and I get very depressed and I can’t get out of bed and cancel my scenes for like a week or two,” Ames said.

If it really cared about the lives of its workers, perhaps the porn industry should screen people with these kinds of issues and perhaps not put them at risk by using them or flag them for follow up treatment when signs of depression re-appear.
 

legalcanada

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yeah sounds like she'd come off on binges and go in a slump, lots of porn stars love meth and lots of meth heads are unpredictable and irrational
 

SneekyNinja

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Cry me a river with your made up claims. She suffered from several issues including childhood abuse and bipolar disorder. The backlash she received was in response to her threats to the livelihood of fellow workers. What she said was completely fucked up and the people she threatened had every right to an appropriate response. Calling her homophobic was calling what she said like it is.

Behind the scenes, Ames reportedly struggled with bipolar depression and multiple personality disorder ― problems she discussed three months ago in a podcast with porn director Holly Randall.

“Some days I’ll be fine and if I’m not doing anything, I’ll get these awful flashbacks of my childhood and I get very depressed and I can’t get out of bed and cancel my scenes for like a week or two,” Ames said.

If it really cared about the lives of its workers, perhaps the porn industry should screen people with these kinds of issues and perhaps not put them at risk by using them or flag them for follow up treatment when signs of depression re-appear.
He says suicide is serious and it's scummy to try use someone's suicide to make a point...

But the whole reason he started the thread was an attempt to discredit homophobia so he can call people "faggots" freely.

I think it's nearly time for more Drake dancing gifs because he's clearly gone full Nsane87.
 

ginjawarrior

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67%

Compared to 90%+ before is statistically significant.

She might as well have been a server and she's decided she won't serve the gay couple incase she gets HIV.

Seriously, she does all unprotected scenes but won't do a scene with a bisexual male because of the 17% chance above 50-50.
yeah that isnt how you do statistics...
A survey released Tuesday by the the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports:

Based on the 2013 NHIS data [collected in 2013 from 34,557 adults aged 18 and over], 96.6% of adults identified as straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual. The remaining 1.1% of adults identified as “something else[]" [0.2%,] stated “I don’t know the answer[]" [0.4%] or refused to provide an answer [0.6%].

More specifically, 1.8 percent of men self-identify as gay and 0.4 percent as bisexual, and 1.5 percent of women self-identify as lesbian and 0.9 percent as bisexual.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/07/15/what-percentage-of-the-u-s-population-is-gay-lesbian-or-bisexual/?utm_term=.91bfccbc8063

67% of all cases of hiv TOTAL POPULATION

1.6% gay or lesbian + 0.7% as bisexual from total population =2.3% of total population

approx 50% of that will be gay or bisexual men so approx 1.15% of Total population

1.15% causing 67% of all cases is a really really fucking long way away from being 50-50%

even if that 1.15% is slightly higher it will never get anywhere close to 50-50 as you claim


And she's a porn star, she should take what dick she's told to take
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thats one of the most disgustingly misogynistic things ive ever read on here.

she a pornstar but that doesnt mean her pussy is no longer her own she can pick and choose what jobs she wanted to take

i feel sorry for the prostitues living in your area.....like your paying for it right so you can treat them as bad as you want right?
Plus the men are tested as much as the women.

And no, she didn't deserve to die but she did deserve to be called out.
testing isnt a garuntee of saftey. if all performers get tested and only have sex within the profession then yeah its good

but if any perfomer has sex out of the proffesion especially in a much higher risk group then everyone in contact will be subject to higher risk

its pretty simple this

her body her fucking choice
 

ginjawarrior

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all i did was point out how ridiculously wrong your 50/50% of infection rates was.
What is the window period for an HIV test?
What is the window period?
The window period is time between potential exposure to HIV infection and the point when the test will give an accurate result.

During the window period a person can be infected with HIV and be very infectious but still test HIV negative.


The window period for a 4th generation antigen/antibody test is four weeks. At this time 95% of infections will be detected (see Figure 7). There is a three month window period after exposure, for the confirmatory result to detect more than 99.9% of infections.


Figure 7: Time to develop antibodies:
95% people do this by week 4 and more than 99.9% by week 12


The range of times it can take to respond to HIV infection is shown below in Figure 8.

The earliest marker is HIV viral load. This is in the first weeks after infection (usually from 1 to 6 weeks after exposure). A high viral load is related to seroconversion symptoms.

The first HIV protein (antigen) that can be measured is p24 (from 1 to 8 weeks after exposure).

Viral load and p24 tests are not accurate for diagnosing early HIV if the results are negative.

An HIV antibody response can be detected as early as two weeks in a few people and in more than 99.9% of people by 12 weeks. An antibody test at 4 weeks will detect 95% of infections.

Antibody testing at 4 weeks can give you a good indication of your HIV status, but you need a test at 12 weeks after the exposure to be considered HIV negative.

Figure 8: Timeline for HIV infection, immune responses and window period for tests

http://i-base.info/guides/testing/what-is-the-window-period


hiv tests do not garuntee that any one person is clean they can only show that they were clean 90 days ago

pornstars can go through quite a few partners in those 90 days

it up to each individual to decide what risk they are prepared to take.

their own body their own choice

not have it decided by some mysoginistic fuckwit on the internet who not only doesnt understand numbers but also hasn't got the foggiest idea what the HIV test actual does
 
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