Guns in school

srh88

srh88

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Liar^^

Some thoughts on this. I was twittering and seen his post on it today saying he's seeing how the state's handle it on their own.

I feel like it's a much bigger (should be federal) than a state issue.

Is there a safe way to have guns in school? I don't think so. I've had some teachers in high school that probably would of shot me given the chance. Also I'm sure they won't get proper instruction on handling a firearm.

If I had kids I'd home school them... only a matter of time until a teacher snaps and starts shooting kids...

Sorry about the rambling thread. Any opinions or ideas?
(Other then stricter background/mental checks) that one makes too much sense so it'll never happen with a government owned by the nra
 
srh88

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BarnBuster said:
I'd wonder who would pay for any blue on blue incidents and would they enact laws to hold harmless any teachers involved? No way I'd carry if I was a teacher without some assurances I wouldn't/couldn't be prosecuted.
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I was reading more saying teachers would have vigorous training lol.. kids would get more use out of up to date text books and decent tech than having Yosemite Sam as a gym teacher
 
BarnBuster

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srh88 said:
I was reading more saying teachers would have vigorous training lol.. kids would get more use out of up to date text books and decent tech than having Yosemite Sam as a gym teacher
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Yeah it takes hundred's of hours (read big bucks) in all type of shoot/no shoot training situations and a shooting house to develop those skills. Hardening up classrooms and enhanced entrance security procedures can get done the quickest but no one will want to pay for it.
 
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Fogdog

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srh88 said:
I was reading more saying teachers would have vigorous training lol.. kids would get more use out of up to date text books and decent tech than having Yosemite Sam as a gym teacher
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Phillando Castille was shot after he voluntarily told an officer he had a gun. So, connect the dots

Teachers carry guns...some teachers are black...police monitor traffic around schools to enforce school speed zone laws...black man wearing teacher id badge is stopped while hurrying in to work...???

Aside from saying the idea that teachers with guns will make schools safer is idiotic or that it's going to warp the student-teacher relationship or that we want/need great teachers not small arms experts in schools, I don't think this bodes well for teachers in any way, shape or form.
 
srh88

srh88

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Fogdog said:
Phillando Castille was shot after he voluntarily told an officer he had a gun. So, connect the dots

Teachers carry guns...some teachers are black...police monitor traffic around schools to enforce school speed zone laws...black man wearing teacher id badge is stopped while hurrying in to work...???

Aside from saying the idea that teachers with guns will make schools safer is idiotic or that it's going to warp the student-teacher relationship or that we want/need great teachers not small arms experts in schools, I don't think this bodes well for teachers in any way, shape or form.
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I see no positives in it
 
tangerinegreen555

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So a teacher, armed with a concealed handgun,


is going to take on an active shooter armed with a semi automatic long rifle like an AR-15?

The whole idea makes little sense. And it's obviously dangerous. Somebody could get the gun off the guy too.

Put a cop at the door like they do at the court houses if it's come to that.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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tangerinegreen555 said:
So a teacher, armed with a concealed handgun,


is going to take on an active shooter armed with a semi automatic long rifle like an AR-15?

The whole idea makes little sense. And it's obviously dangerous. Somebody could get the gun off the guy too.

Put a cop at the door like they do at the court houses if it's come to that.
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just looking at statistics of how guns make the average owner less safe, a risk assessment analysis would find that the benefit from the very low likelihood of a stopped shooter cannot justify the very real increase in risk of a district-wide teacher-carry policy.
 
srh88

srh88

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tangerinegreen555 said:
So a teacher, armed with a concealed handgun,


is going to take on an active shooter armed with a semi automatic long rifle like an AR-15?

The whole idea makes little sense. And it's obviously dangerous. Somebody could get the gun off the guy too.

Put a cop at the door like they do at the court houses if it's come to that.
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Is it anymore ridiculous then rednecks saying they want their guns to protect themselves from the government?
 
too larry

too larry

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What works to make schools safer is more mental health care in the schools. Also making kids feel the school has their back, so they will report shit to teachers. The zero policy on fighting is one of the worst things they can do. The less drastic a school is on handing out suspensions and other discipline, the safer it is. But that may be one of those things where the inter city schools {who have more gun deaths} have more problem kids, so they get suspended more. Statistics do not show cause and effect.
 
zeddd

zeddd

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In the UK we don’t even arm the police (except specialist fa officers) most of the general population, from which the cops and teachers are drawn, are considered psychologically unsuited to drawing a firearm and killing another human with it. As for teachers fml unbelievable to arm teachers, how about following the rest of the world and sort out the gun problem
 
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