Why are so many new growers choosing blurple/led over hps/mh??

[conor c]

Age i guess is a factor plus the lack of research i guess in this case and i would imagine that and people are lazy by default mostly ime

 

[rustyshaclkferd]

It was a collaboration between a grower and CLW, it’s possible they didn’t get these specific results from the grower since they probably weren’t still standing there months later. I’m not trying to justify it, I only provided this because someone said there is absolutely no data out there. Cheers.

[Bar graphs are data. Got it.
You do realize any company fuck any person of the age 5 to almost dead can create a bar graph... wheres the actual printouts from the analytical companies and their names...

Fucking shills] and 30 min later i find the pdf with all that...mouth foot...


Didnt see that post with the extra info, good stuff...

 

[.Smoke]

A lot of people shop on amazon and according to the reviews on amazon those blurples are great, learned the hard way myself but now thanks to reading into this forum and reading the reviews from actual growers and not bots on here it was pretty easy to make better choices on purchases.

Edit. Sorry that was my answer to the initial question I see it has moved on to UVB somehow... I just bought a single 4' t5 fixure just for UVB (from what I have read LED's don't provide great UV) in my tent which runs 4 hlg132's... Do you guys run your UVB all day and how high above the plants do you like to have it if its supplemental lighting?

Yeah I almost got bit by the Amazon review bug on those too. Luckily something just didn't seem to add up with them, so I managed to spend enough time reading/learning here to figure it out before I purchased one.
First light I got was a 315CMH.
Great lights.

 

[rustyshaclkferd]

I ended up ordering 1 of these last night to use in a 4'x4' final flowering area with a 1000w se hps. Plants will have the opportunity to be under them for last 4 weeks of flower if wanted. I'm interested to play around with it and see what it can do.

How big of an area are you running the 2 in and along with what other lights?

Hope to see your results

 

[twalte]

I ended up ordering 1 of these last night to use in a 4'x4' final flowering area with a 1000w se hps. Plants will have the opportunity to be under them for last 4 weeks of flower if wanted. I'm interested to play around with it and see what it can do.

How big of an area are you running the 2 in and along with what other lights?

I am running two of the UVB lamps in a 5x5 tent with a 1000 watt SE HPS. They say it only takes 1-2 watts per square foot of space for UVB to be effective.

 

[rustyshaclkferd]

I am running two of the UVB lamps in a 5x5 tent with a 1000 watt SE HPS. They say it only takes 1-2 watts per square foot of space for UVB to be effective.

Correct me if im wrong doesn't direct exposure from a HPS bulb emit UVB and UVA

 

[twalte]

Correct me if im wrong doesn't direct exposure from a HPS bulb emit UVB and UVA

Metal Halide bulbs put out UV, but the glass in my air cooled hood blocks that UV light. HPS bulbs don’t put out UV at all.

 

[rustyshaclkferd]

Metal Halide bulbs put out UV, but the glass in my air cooled hood blocks that UV light. HPS bulbs don’t put out UV at all.

Well this might be a thing then... my buds are pretty good so far but more dense and more total cannabanoids cant be bad...

 

[Clumpyoyster]

Ive never grown with blurples, never seen the need to go that route when i first started, hps was already tried and tested and cheap to buy.

Ive grown with all 3 of the big lighting types(HPS,CMH,LED) . All 3 grow weed just fine. My main reason for the switch was enviromental control to be honest. I was having a very hard time keeping heat under control with hps running, plants didnt like it and i didnt want to buy and run a/c just for a grow room. So i switched to LED( built my own strip lights) and it was the best decision i have made since i started growing imo.

Everything has been easier, heat isnt a concern at all(1440 true watts in a 7x14 room), plants typically love warmer temps under leds so it works great for my situation. Another huge bonus that i love about my led strip lights is canopy coverage. My lights are built the exact size of my canopy, i can run them soft and basically slam the lights on top of my plants and get max lux numbers across every inch of canopy.

I do agree tho, its either DIY with top tier leds or i would go back to hps or cmh, buying top of the line pre built fixtures is a huge no go for me, prices are absurd. Building them seems to be the only option for me. Def no blurples.


Merry christmas!

Hey digs where would I start if I wanted to dig my own led panels for a 10x13 room?

 

[diggs99]

Hey digs where would I start if I wanted to dig my own led panels for a 10x13 room?

Hey man,

For Qbs, i would only start with @Grow Lights Australia (Prawn connerys boards) The HIGHLIGHTS. As far as im concerned they are the best boards on the market ....I love HLG and what they are doing, cant go wrong using HLG, but if i had to choose a brand to buy qbs today, im buying the HIGHLIGHTS....Toss them a message, they are real good dudes.


for strips there are Many many good options with a wide price range. , you can buy the bxeb gen 2s for as cheap as $4.50 per strip, or you can buy the top of the line Nichias and pay $60-70 per strip...

 

[OneHitDone]

LEDs were the solution to a problem no one needed fixing.

Power should be cheaper bottom line.


Sure as tech gets better LEDs will eclipse HPS but not yet, MH and HPS and even CMH are homogenized industries....

LEDs are still in its snake oil phase. Not enough of the industrial horticulture tech has been made affordable for home use so the indsutry shifts to DIY, a goos shift to force cost change and to make the growers market in general switch the low operation cost lighting.

But quality and yield and propriety drive this car and LEDs still borrowing it to get lucky in the backseat on the weekends...

You new soo dead on bro! Anyone who disagrees is clearly out to lunch

 

[OneHitDone]

Did you just say the leaf wants the ir lol? Do you realize ir isn't photosynthetically active?

You gonna tell us your into no-till cause you most likely feel that bottled synthetics are evil or some shit and you don't even know that plants use IR?

 

[Go go n chill]

I’m not going to get into which is better but you keep talking about “ the hassle “ of LED. There is no more hassle than any other fixture.
One reason for using LED fixtures is the ease of splitting power usage up amongst several circuits. Load balancing....
I have 2 1000’s hps.... I use 1000 watts of LED instead. Just my choice

 

[Rasta Roy]

Millennials love new tech says the Boomer! lol View attachment 4443042

You must get cheap power where you're at @.Smoke. 2.6K x 12h/day x 30d/mth x 25¢/kwh = $234/mth for me but I rarely have more than 1K going. Just scored 3 used sets of 600W digi ballasts, Hortilux SHPS bulbs and reflectors for $60 each. Try to find the equivalent in LED for that price. Decent LED ain't cheap and I wouldn't live long enough to recoup the initial price thru power savings I bet.

Were I much younger and planned on long term growing I'd get into DIYing my own custom COBs tho.

Millennial chiming in here! Well, I'm an over 30 one but still apart of it...but yeah you pretty much nailed it; they think it's cool.

Ive smashed my head against the counter with more than a few people about why it makes no sense to choose leds over hids. Most people that are growing simply for a hobby aren't thinking about cost efficiency. They just want to get the cool gear and grow a couple ounces. Home brewers do the same shit, spending hundreds of bucks on car boys and kettles when they could do the same with some pots and five gallon buckets from Lowe's for cheaper.

Let em do their thing and then make some extra cash selling your product to them when they run out of their shit three weeks into their next flower cycle.

 

[Rasta Roy]

I work for a commercial grow company, and as far as the hps vs led arguement goes...well, this is what happened to the leds that were built for commercial grow demands...

They were insanely expensive, got used for about a year, and then we decided to never use them again. Quality of the bud was no different than under hps, just less yield. Same electricity and ac costs.

 

[Hust17]

Lol guy drew same power with strips and got less yield. Sorry to tell ya, wasn’t an equipment problem

 

[bk78]

I work for a commercial grow company, and as far as the hps vs led arguement goes...well, this is what happened to the leds that were built for commercial grow demands...View attachment 4445295

They were insanely expensive, got used for about a year, and then we decided to never use them again. Quality of the bud was no different than under hps, just less yield. Same electricity and ac costs.

Sounds like you need to hire better growers and stop blaming the lights Ugh millennials!

 

[coreywebster]

I work for a commercial grow company, and as far as the hps vs led arguement goes...well, this is what happened to the leds that were built for commercial grow demands...View attachment 4445295

They were insanely expensive, got used for about a year, and then we decided to never use them again. Quality of the bud was no different than under hps, just less yield. Same electricity and ac costs.

Any idea what they were?

 

[sandman83]

Metal Halide bulbs put out UV, but the glass in my air cooled hood blocks that UV light. HPS bulbs don’t put out UV at all.

Ugh forgot about the glass....so even if i swap my HPS for MH bulbs I'm blocking most of the UV to keep the room cool..

 

[Hust17]

Any idea what they were?

LED X 800 Watt. Seen them before, could be mistaken though.

edit: name might be Fusion X-Spider 800