Me too! Looks bright!!! Nice job on that ducting and venting of that hood!
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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Yo Dirt! I ran into the same problem as you - I let a batch stay in the veg unit too long and the larger plants took over - my second flower unit has one bonzai plant that I put in at about 3.5 inches - her biggest sister was almost 2 feet! Yeah - I am going to have issues with my first two batches - overgrown already. I let em veg too long as I was not finished with the room - ha ha live and learn again and again!
Just got my clones this afternoon. White Widow. seven of em. and of course, being the lazy guy that I am, I'm rushing to build my light setup. I'm still messing with the light timer.
I actually won them in a poker game. I was gonna pay my friend for em. but we played some hold em. he sucks. I'll post pics of my setup hopefully tomorrow morning. I'll be building as I go.
I've spent maybe $300 so far. I don't think that I've spent so much to where I'm past the point of no return.
Thanks for everyone's help. I'll be learning on the fly!!!
I actually won them in a poker game. I was gonna pay my friend for em. but we played some hold em. he sucks. I'll post pics of my setup hopefully tomorrow morning. I'll be building as I go.
I've spent maybe $300 so far. I don't think that I've spent so much to where I'm past the point of no return.
Thanks for everyone's help. I'll be learning on the fly!!!
Jagermaster
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I've had the lights down to about 2" since jiffy dome. Moved it up to about 8" now that the plants are bigger and get get a better blend from the 2 blue and 2 red lamps. In regards to the spots, they got bigger! They also were more predominate on the 3 white rhinos. Well, I shit a phone book. I thought that I had over-nuted them. I mixed Stink's veg formula and put in 2 cups into the res. (I have five gallons in the res.) I didn't have a TDS meter, so I thought I'd go way on the light side in terms of concentration. The next day was when the spots got worse. I assumed the nutes were the culprit and changed the water and cleaned the resovoir. Today I got my PH meter (I had been using the drops - huge pain in the ass) and TDS/EC meter. When I checked the PH in the resovoir, that I thought was roughly 6.0, it was actually 7.3!!! Adjusted the PH down to 5.8. Compared my symptons to some pics online and think that could be it. I will monitor every few hours. I will definately report back.
I do have a question for the group: I have HM-100 TDS/EC. I know it comes calibrated from the factory, but should I re-calibrate it myself? Which solution should I use? There are three settings to choose from. Which should I use? Setting KCl or 442 or NaCl. You guys are the best, thank you.
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Jagermaster
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This pic is of the Hindu Kush. This particular plant doesn't have any spots, but notice the leaf at 12 o'clock, the edges are kind of wavy. Hope that's PH related as well. Any and all advice appreciated.
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BIGTIMEROOFERR
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hey jager
naci is the setting you want your ppm is more important than the ph you realy need to get your ppm RIGHT every time you add water check the ppm add nuites to get it right [ if needed] then get the ph right because ph down will make your ppm go up
hope this helps you
ps
you dont need a dome
StinkBud
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I run it for about 2 weeks. It's really not a big deal to run it longer though.
I'm experimenting with Sweet right now. Last mix I added 450ml to my mix. The plants love it!
hehehemann
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Not sure if you mean my pic. If so, I don't really have any ventilation.
I run about 2 feet of ducting up to the inline fan (a 250cfm inline fan from home depot). The fan sits pointing at the bulb. The ducting on the other side allows the warm air from the heat of the bulb to travel down the rest of the ducting and exits into a bucket of water so that no heat goes back into the room.
Before the DIY cool tube the temps in the closet would be around 87. Once I had it up and running the temps have dropped to a high around 75. With the added benefit that I can lower the light to within inches of the canopy and the temps are safe for the plants. (The light is a 600w HPS)
Next up will be a DIY carbon scrubber (already starting making this) to prevent the smell from leaving the closet.
StinkBud
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If you see the edges of your leaves curling up that usually means that the leaves are dissipating more water than the roots can replace.
It is usually caused by excess heat. The room is either too hot or the lights are too close.
Over fertilization has a completely different look. First you will see a small amount of tip burn. Then the leaves will turn dark green, almost black and curl down. The leaves take on a claw shape appearance.
My advice...Check your temps and raise your PPM. Watch the new growth. It should be dark green and lush.
If you bump up your PPM you will see the plant turn dark green within one day! I bet you won't see any new spots either...
PH is almost always a non issue in my system. Unless your PH is way off, the plant will have more than enough nutes to grow healthy.
StinkBud
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Your closest looks great!Here is my closet with the DIY stuff to keep temps down. The 2 liter bottles you see are my DIY CO2 boosters
CO2 is heavier than air and should be placed above the plants (up high).
hehehemann
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Thanks Stink. I use tubing from the tops of the bottles that fun behind and into a small fan. Hopefully throwing the CO2 at the plants.
maddawg13
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Stink I have some questions , I was wanting to run the smaller version of your set up , Was wondering if you have tried the 14 gal roughnecks yet I will only be doing about 12 plants since I am only going to be running a 600 w I was going to try the 10 gal set up but put the 2 side by side maybe the light will cover ? Also having a hard time trying to figure out venting the room it will 6x6. If you have any input it would be much appreciated . Also reps on your thread and set up I cant wait to get mine up and running ! If it helps I will be trying to run co2 in the room , may just try what hehe is doing with the 2ltr jugs .
erasamus
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hey i know dealing with newbies is annoying and this might be a stupid q, but i am a long-time outdoor grower and have little knowledge of indoor setups (and am trying to get on board), earlier when u showed to 18 gall roughnecks stacked, are the roots supppose to be able to reach down into the water below or should u be removing them before that happens. also i have recently been expeirimenting with a hydro settup using a clay medium in netted pots keeping the roots submerged and usung a airstone. i only do 1 plant at a time since i am not yet experienced with this method but this aeroponic/ntf system looks much more interesting. is there a basic skematic out there since that lables all the parts since looking at your setup is a little complex to a begginner? sry if that was a little "run-on"ish, i tend to do that. thanks in advance for any light shed
Saladsmokin
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What day am i supposed to build a 2nd flower unit by? i kno the 3rd week but the first day of the third week or the last day of the third week? can sum1 help me out? haha.. im hella medicated
Picasso345
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The roots don't really have enough time to grow into the bottom Roughneck, although they try very hard, and even if they do a little bit then they just get pruned when I lift the top Rubbermaid off, lol.
Not sure what kind of info you are looking for label-wise, have you seen page 75?
erasamus
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i actually went back and looked over everything a second time ands its making more sense now. i guess my only real questions come when you cut the fence posts and drill the holes in them, 1) the roots just go into that 4" area? that seems kind of tight, do the roots all overlap each other? 2) theres no water in the fenceposts? the spayers that run through can deliver enough? and does excess run out of the fenceposts onto the floor?(maybe i missed a step on that one)
3) and finally, where is the best place to aquire those neoprene disks
3) and finally, where is the best place to aquire those neoprene disks