Dont listen to this bullshit.. because thats exactly what it is.

[Serapis]

My Germ rate is at 100% with them as well. I just germinated 6 NYPD seeds and can't wait to get them sexed...

 

[Brick Top]

No one is trolling you BT,

No, you are trolling me, and not just here. Almost every discussion I get in you pop up to call me an ass and a blowhard and just give me a hard time. That is trolling and that is that you are doing.

 

[Serapis]

Prove it...... your full of yourself.... this is the ONLY thread I've had ANY contact with you in some time....

and I find it funny looking at your list of likes... I have more in this thread than you do..... and what was that about you not accepting pms? But I thought your box was always loaded? ;p

I'm not here to fight you, i'm just tired of seeing you go back and forth with the same damn people over and over and over and over.... you ruin threads and now this one has become another of your personal battles.... Like I stated before, I've been here longer than you and i don;t have 5 bans under my belt like you do, figure that one out.....

No, you are trolling me, and not just here. Almost every discussion I get in you pop up to call me an ass and a blowhard and just give me a hard time. That is trolling and that is that you are doing.

 

[Brick Top]

My Germ rate is at 100% with them as well.

If you are claiming that you ALWAYS get a 100% germ rate with Nirvana seeds, or anyone elses seeds, I will be more than willing and more than pleased to say that you are totally full of shit.

No ones genetics do that all the time. No ones.

It will happen now and then and it may happen a handful of times in a row, but unless you have only had like one or two grows and got lucky, your always having a 100% germ rate from Nirvana seeds is pure bullshit, and you know it as much as everyone else here knows it.

Trolling me is one thing but lying to the membership to attempt to bolster your case is low, it is very low, because someone will believe you and they will go to pop their beans and and up with two out of the entire pack popping, they will have wasted their money and it will be your fault for lying and steering them in the wrong direction in the first place.

 

[Serapis]

So now you are calling me a liar? You are something else.... Every Nirvana seed I have started has germinated, every one.... I know because I have first hand personal experience with the seeds, unlike you. Calling me a liar is a pathetically low blow, even from someone like you...

I suggest you take your name calling and go play somewhere else....

The fact that you trash a seed company that many people are happy with speaks volumes of your credibility. I stand by mine.....

Also, I'd like to add that if ANYONE has germination issues with Nirvana seeds, contact them and let them know. They will replace them....

If you are claiming that you ALWAYS get a 100% germ rate with Nirvana seeds, or anyone elses seeds, I will be more than willing and more than pleased to say that you are totally full of shit.

No ones genetics do that all the time. No ones.

It will happen now and then and it may happen a handful of times in a row, but unless you have only had like one or two grows and got lucky, your always having a 100% germ rate from Nirvana seeds is pure bullshit, and you know it as much as everyone else here knows it.

Trolling me is one thing but lying to the membership to attempt to bolster your case is low, it is very low, because someone will believe you and they will go to pop their beans and and up with two out of the entire pack popping, they will have wasted their money and it will be your fault for lying and steering them in the wrong direction in the first place.

 

[hydgrow]

Nirvana is the only company I have bought from. All 20 seeds I purchased germinated and the plants are looking good

Nope not true because, I just talked to BT and he said Nirvana suck so that's the gospel.

If you think I'm playing BrickWall will be here in a minute to copy and paste the internet in this thread for ya just to prove he is right and those seeds you germed really didn't germ.

 

[Brick Top]

So now you are calling me a liar?

If you are claiming that every single seed you ever purchased from Nirvana, that is unless you have only grown once or twice and you got lucky, popped then yes I am flat out calling you a liar. I have grown for enough decades and used enough breeders to know that no breeder's seeds will germinate 100% of the time .. and what's more is every single experienced grower here knows the exact same thing.

I will go even farther. Anyone else who claims the very same thing, that they have popped very many Nirvana beans over the years, or any other breeder's beans, and they have had a 100% successful germination rate, they are also liars.

It just does not happen. no breeders seeds, not one of them, will successfully germinate 100% of the time. NONE! Some may get a 100% germination rate for a while, but after they get more than a few grows under their belt, no matter whose genetics they use, they will eventually end up with some seeds that will not pop.

What you are claiming is as accurate as someone who eats a lot of popcorn saying they have never ever had so much as one single kernel of corn not pot.

You know it, I know it and anyone and everyone here with any real degree of experience knows the very same thing.

If you need to continually troll me, that's find and dandy with me, but you should not lie and mislead others into making purchasing errors just because you desperately want to make me appear to be incorrect in what I have said. Absolutely no breeder's seeds will successfully germinate 100% of the time, unless of course someone considers only the very short term where a few packs will fully pop, that can and will happen, but there is not now and there has never been a breeder whose seeds successfully germinate/germinated 100% of the time, and anyone who tells someone otherwise is flat out lying.

 

[Serapis]

I wasn't going to dignify this post with a response, but you have gone over the line my friend. I have purchased from Nirvana seeds 5 times now.... for a total of 40 seeds. 17 of those seeds are still in the baggies. 23 of the seeds have been used, with 23 seeds germinating.

I suggest you leave your name calling to your self. That's twice you have called me a liar and you have no firsthand knowledge of my grows. I could really care less what you think about me, but to have you call me a liar is unacceptable. I hope it leads to yet another of your bans....

As for trolling you, your full of it.. like I said, prove it..... You claim I am giving you grief in the threads you are posting in, I'm stating that is not a fact....

Anyone else considering a purchase from Nirvana should go ahead and try them. They have great seeds, great strains. I highly recommend them... Just read all of the posts from the happy growers in this thread, or you can believe the Brick, whom is one of 3 people posting a dislike for Nirvana in this thread.... the choice is up to the individual. I have yet to have any issues with their beans and I'll continue to buy from them. You can listen to those that have first hand experience growing Nirvana seeds, or you can listen to the one guy that has blasted them with Google search cut and paste horror stories from the 90s....

If you are claiming that every single seed you ever purchased from Nirvana, that is unless you have only grown once or twice and you got lucky, popped then yes I am flat out calling you a liar. I have grown for enough decades and used enough breeders to know that no breeder's seeds will germinate 100% of the time .. and what's more is every single experienced grower here knows the exact same thing.

I will go even farther. Anyone else who claims the very same thing, that they have popped very many Nirvana beans over the years, or any other breeder's beans, and they have had a 100% successful germination rate, they are also liars.

It just does not happen. no breeders seeds, not one of them, will successfully germinate 100% of the time. NONE! Some may get a 100% germination rate for a while, but after they get more than a few grows under their belt, no matter whose genetics they use, they will eventually end up with some seeds that will not pop.

What you are claiming is as accurate as someone who eats a lot of popcorn saying they have never ever had so much as one single kernel of corn not pot.

You know it, I know it and anyone and everyone here with any real degree of experience knows the very same thing.

If you need to continually troll me, that's find and dandy with me, but you should not lie and mislead others into making purchasing errors just because you desperately want to make me appear to be incorrect in what I have said. Absolutely no breeder's seeds will successfully germinate 100% of the time, unless of course someone considers only the very short term where a few packs will fully pop, that can and will happen, but there is not now and there has never been a breeder whose seeds successfully germinate/germinated 100% of the time, and anyone who tells someone otherwise is flat out lying.

 

[doc111]

Serapis, Doc I really like both you guys and have learned from you as well. As BT shared with you I am very thankful to him for all the help he has given me. Part of what he quoted from pm's was written by me and was heartfelt and this guy has answered every question I have ever asked him quickly and accurately and every time I listened to him I benefited greatly. He has never ever ignored my request for help and it has been very many times. Sure he's an ornery ol' fart but he will help anyone who asks and won't sell them a line of crap.

in no way am I taking sides in this as I like you all. But give the dude some respect and I bet he gives it back.

One Love,

Namaste'

I and many others have tried respectfully pointing out how hypocritical it is of him to judge a breeder without ever having bought so much as a seed. Whenever anybody has attempted this they have been spouted platitudes to and been belittled by this "ornery ol' fart". I simply tried to point this out yet again and was met with little jabs and condescension, which I don't take too kindly. I didn't think I was that out of line though.

 

[Brick Top]

I wasn't going to dignify this post with a response, but you have gone over the line my friend. I have purchased from Nirvana seeds 5 times now.... for a total of 40 seeds. 17 of those seeds are still in the baggies. 23 of the seeds have been used, with 23 seeds germinating.

I suggest you leave your name calling to your self. That's twice you have called me a liar and you have no firsthand knowledge of my grows. I could really care less what you think about me, but to have you call me a liar is unacceptable. I hope it leads to yet another of your bans....

As for trolling you, your full of it.. like I said, prove it..... You claim I am giving you grief in the threads you are posting in, I'm stating that is not a fact....

Anyone else considering a purchase from Nirvana should go ahead and try them. They have great seeds, great strains. I highly recommend them... Just read all of the posts from the happy growers in this thread, or you can believe the Brick, whom is one of 3 people posting a dislike for Nirvana in this thread.... the choice is up to the individual. I have yet to have any issues with their beans and I'll continue to buy from them. You can listen to those that have first hand experience growing Nirvana seeds, or you can listen to the one guy that has blasted them with Google search cut and paste horror stories from the 90s....

Gee, 5 purchases and 40 seeds, that's really something to base a claim on. I went longer than that without having a germ problem and then I received a pack of seeds where not one seed would pop. I asked for a replacement pack and again not one would pop. I was given the option to take a third or pick something else. I picked something else but was also sent another pack of the seeds that were not popping. Guess what, not one of them popped while I had 9 out of 10 of the other strain poped. 30 seeds, three packs, not one popped. That sure cut down on my previous 100% germ rate.

When you get some years and experience under your belt and find out how things actually work you will stop attempting to base statements on such limited experience.

So maybe you did get luck with a whopping 40 seeds. I went way more/longer than that before a failure, but then it was 30 in a row. Since then I would say I average about a 95% germ rate.

No breeder's seeds ALWAYS pop. NONE! Not one single one of them provide seed that ALWAYS pop. Any and every EXPERIENCED grower will tell you the exact same thing. When you get back the beginner stage of growing you will learn that for yourself .. and frankly I still doubt that you went 40 for 40, especially not with that Nirvana crap.

 

[fabfun]

interesting

 

[Brick Top]

I and many others have tried respectfully pointing out how hypocritical it is of him to judge a breeder without ever having bought so much as a seed.

Talk about the epitome of hypocrisy! I have said it REPEATEDLY that friends have purchased and grown Nirvana seeds. I have seen what they have had to put up with, including one being threatened by Nirvana that they would forward his personal information to his local cops, something verified by Nirvana itself, because he complained when his seeds would not pop and he wanted replacements or a refund .. and I have smoked what they have grown and know it is low quality.

So I have seen friends results using Nirvana crap, from germination, and in some cases totally failed germination attempts due to shoddy seeds, to seeing the plants grow to smoking the results.

In your hypocrisy you want people to believe that just because I did not pay for the seeds myself and then grow them myself, if they would germinate, that what I witnessed and what I smoked in no way could have given me an accurate idea of Nirvana. You want people to believe that because I did not waste my own money and my own time growing the strains that my seeing them from germination, sometimes only attempts, through growing, through harvesting and through curing and then smoking the final results is exactly the same thing as having no experience with Nirvana strains whatsoever.

Are you as insane as you make yourself out to be with what you claim?

 

[Serapis]

So now I'm inexperienced.... Again with your condescension of other members.... I can't understand why FDD let you back after 5 your being banned for five times.... It's quite obvious from your calling others a liar that you didn't learn a thing and are back to your old ways... You didn't bother asking how many seeds I had purchased and germinated, you just called me a liar without any first hand knowledge... I'm fed up with you and your condescending attitude towards others....

I have a challenge for you... go to Google and search for Nirvana rollitup and see how many happy forum posts you can find about Nirvana.... are you calling all of them liars too? If not, what label are you using these days? I've seen you call people idiots, naive, stupid, inexperienced and other adjectives....

I don't know if you are a nice person in real life or not.... I do know that online, many view you as a trouble maker and you have been dubbed the copy and paste king many times by various members of this site. rather than apologize for calling me a liar, now that you have more facts, you simply twist the game and tell me I'm inexperienced..... I may not have your experience, but I'm awful glad I don't have your attitude or have to put up with you in real life...

So anyone that has had success and is happy with Nirvana; according to you; is inexperienced, naive, or lying, is that correct? You are a real piece of work..

Gee, 5 purchases and 40 seeds, that's really something to base a claim on. I went longer than that without having a germ problem and then I received a pack of seeds where not one seed would pop. I asked for a replacement pack and again not one would pop. I was given the option to take a third or pick something else. I picked something else but was also sent another pack of the seeds that were not popping. Guess what, not one of them popped while I had 9 out of 10 of the other strain poped. 30 seeds, three packs, not one popped. That sure cut down on my previous 100% germ rate.

When you get some years and experience under your belt and find out how things actually work you will stop attempting to base statements on such limited experience.

So maybe you did get luck with a whopping 40 seeds. I went way more/longer than that before a failure, but then it was 30 in a row. Since then I would say I average about a 95% germ rate.

No breeder's seeds ALWAYS pop. NONE! Not one single one of them provide seed that ALWAYS pop. Any and every EXPERIENCED grower will tell you the exact same thing. When you get back the beginner stage of growing you will learn that for yourself .. and frankly I still doubt that you went 40 for 40, especially not with that Nirvana crap.

 

[Serapis]

Another attack on another member, you are on a fucking roll my man...

Early on in this thread, you didn't cite friends experience, you went to Google and found Nirvana complaints and copied and pasted them in this thread.... it was only when you were called out on the copying and pasting that you came out with your friends and saying you have smoked their crap, so you can see where people might have a problem with that.... If I had friends that had issues, i would of referenced that FIRST instead of copying and pasting some disgruntled posters....

Talk about the epitome of hypocrisy! I have said it REPEATEDLY that friends have purchased and grown Nirvana seeds. I have seen what they have had to put up with, including one being threatened by Nirvana that they would forward his personal information to his local cops, something verified by Nirvana itself, because he complained when his seeds would not pop and he wanted replacements or a refund .. and I have smoked what they have grown and know it is low quality.

So I have seen friends results using Nirvana crap, from germination, and in some cases totally failed germination attempts due to shoddy seeds, to seeing the plants grow to smoking the results.

In your hypocrisy you want people to believe that just because I did not pay for the seeds myself and then grow them myself, if they would germinate, that what I witnessed and what I smoked in no way could have given me an accurate idea of Nirvana. You want people to believe that because I did not waste my own money and my own time growing the strains that my seeing them from germination, sometimes only attempts, through growing, through harvesting and through curing and then smoking the final results is exactly the same thing as having no experience with Nirvana strains whatsoever.

Are you as insane as you make yourself out to be with what you claim?

 

[Brick Top]

Another attack on another member, you are on a fucking roll my man...

As if you nor anyone else has attacked me. Go ahead and attempt to play the innocent if you wish but your hypocrisy will blow your cover.

Early on in this thread, you didn't cite friends experience, you went to Google and found Nirvana complaints and copied and pasted them in this thread.... it was only when you were called out on the copying and pasting that you came out with your friends and saying you have smoked their crap, so you can see where people might have a problem with that.... If I had friends that had issues, i would of referenced that FIRST instead of copying and pasting some disgruntled posters....

Gee, because I did not mentioned my friend's experiences first in a thread with now some 254 messages I guess you got me there. That means that when one of my friends was threatened to be ratted out by Nirvana, something a messages posted from Nirvana confirmed did occur in the past, that it could never have happened because I failed to mention it first and instead began by saying how in all the years I have spent on numerous sites like this that I have never see any breeder with as many complaints about it as Nirvana as received.

Look Romper Room troll, why don't you get off my back? I've done nothing but speak the truth. Just because yo do not want to read the truth does not mean that others don't and it is not a valid reason for you to keep trolling me.

Why don't you pick some unlucky other truth teller and do all you can to attempt to twist their truths into what you would prefer they be and leave me alone? You have drawn this out way too far. You have more than proven who and what you are so there is no reason to continue. Nothing will ever be resolved because you will always refuse to accept the truth and you will keep spinning things and blowing smokescreens and attempting to say what I say should not be considered or counted because I did not mention it in the exact very same order that you would have.

You will not let it rest, you seem to need to get in the last word, or more accurately said, you want this to finish with your last lie, so you will not stop. But what will you gain? Absolutely nothing. Just drop the matter and I will be more than glad to do the same. It is pointless and unless you stop your trolling the only end there will be to this is when warnings and or infractions come or the thread is closed because you simply will not stop trolling me.

You've stalked me from one thread to another doing the very same thing, making every attempt you can to denigrate me. Why not give it a rest? You are a living breathing hemorrhoid. Every time I think you've eased off you flair up again in another thread and come back with a vengeance and make yourself a major pain in my ass. You can be the only one enjoying it, so for everyone else here, for the site, why not just stop doing it?

 

[Serapis]

So if I respond to being called a liar is trolling, than so be it, I'm a troll.... post #241 wasn't directed at you at all, and you respond to it calling me a liar and now I'm a troll because I'm responding to your curt, rude, condescending remarks?

Yeah, you are innocent alright....

I welcome a moderator review of this BS.... Once again, you've gone too far....

As if you nor anyone else has attacked me. Go ahead and attempt to play the innocent if you wish but your hypocrisy will blow your cover.



Gee, because I did not mentioned my friend's experiences first in a thread with now some 254 messages I guess you got me there. That means that when one of my friends was threatened to be ratted out by Nirvana, something a messages posted from Nirvana confirmed did occur in the past, that it could never have happened because I failed to mention it first and instead began by saying how in all the years I have spent on numerous sites like this that I have never see any breeder with as many complaints about it as Nirvana as received.

Look Romper Room troll, why don't you get off my back? I've done nothing but speak the truth. Just because yo do not want to read the truth does not mean that others don't and it is not a valid reason for you to keep trolling me.

Why don't you pick some unlucky other truth teller and do all you can to attempt to twist their truths into what you would prefer they be and leave me alone? You have drawn this out way too far. You have more than proven who and what you are so there is no reason to continue. Nothing will ever be resolved because you will always refuse to accept the truth and you will keep spinning things and blowing smokescreens and attempting to say what I say should not be considered or counted because I did not mention it in the exact very same order that you would have.

You will not let it rest, you seem to need to get in the last word, or more accurately said, you want this to finish with your last lie, so you will not stop. But what will you gain? Absolutely nothing. Just drop the matter and I will be more than glad to do the same. It is pointless and unless you stop your trolling the only end there will be to this is when warnings and or infractions come or the thread is closed because you simply will not stop trolling me.

You've stalked me from one thread to another doing the very same thing, making every attempt you can to denigrate me. Why not give it a rest? You are a living breathing hemorrhoid. Every time I think you've eased off you flair up again in another thread and come back with a vengeance and make yourself a major pain in my ass. You can be the only one enjoying it, so for everyone else here, for the site, why not just stop doing it?

 

[Brick Top]

So if I respond to being called a liar is trolling, than so be it, I'm a troll.... post #241 wasn't directed at you at all, and you respond to it calling me a liar and now I'm a troll because I'm responding to your curt, rude, condescending remarks?



Yeah, you are innocent alright....

I welcome a moderator review of this BS.... Once again, you've gone too far....

I never called myself innocent, that is another of your delusions, a polite way to say another of your lies. But you cannot honestly say that you have not gone from thread to thread butting and trolling me. You have been riding me now for some time and it's getting really old. I need you about as much as I need a major stock market crash and a case of the clap.

I said it before, if you do not like the truths I tell, then do not read any message posted by me or use the ignore function so you will not even see my messages. Then you can pick some other unlucky person to troll instead of trolling me.

Just let it go dude .. nothing can be resolved, there is nothing for anyone to actually win. All there is, is you getting some sort of release you need in life, or some sort of venting of frustrations in your life that you apparently desperately need by trolling me.

Just drop it ... let it go ... get over it ... move on.

 

[Serapis]

I invited you to post here any other threads and posts that I'm trolling you in.... You can't do it because I'm not at your level.... I posted in #241 and you come in here and attack me and call me a liar....

Who is the fucking troll?

Again, you are right, it is over.... a moderator will be reviewing it.. You've called me a liar three times, you called another insane and you called anyone reporting 100% success with Nirvana a liar... Yeah, you speak the truth alright

I hope the 6th time is a charm....

I never called myself innocent, that is another of your delusions, a polite way to say another of your lies. But you cannot honestly say that you have not gone from thread to thread butting and trolling me. You have been riding me now for some time and it's getting really old. I need you about as much as I need a major stock market crash and a case of the clap.

I said it before, if you do not like the truths I tell, then do not read any message posted by me or use the ignore function so you will not even see my messages. Then you can pick some other unlucky person to troll instead of trolling me.

Just let it go dude .. nothing can be resolved, there is nothing for anyone to actually win. All there is, is you getting some sort of release you need in life, or some sort of venting of frustrations in your life that you apparently desperately need by trolling me.

Just drop it ... let it go ... get over it ... move on.

 

[Brick Top]

I invited you to post here any other threads and posts that I'm trolling you in.... You can't do it because I'm not at your level.... I posted in #241 and you come in here and attack me and call me a liar....

Who is the fucking troll?

Again, you are right, it is over.... a moderator will be reviewing it.. You've called me a liar three times, you called another insane and you called anyone reporting 100% success with Nirvana a liar... Yeah, you speak the truth alright

I hope the 6th time is a charm....

Just give it up guy, let it drop, there is no win to be had, find some other release other than trolling me .... jerkoff more or maybe even try getting laid for a change ..... but just get over it, let it die, move on.

 

[Serapis]

Good riddance to you...

Just give it up guy, let it drop, there is no win to be had, find some other release other than trolling me .... jerkoff more or maybe even try getting laid for a change ..... but just get over it, let it die, move on.