The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

The Ruiner

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My apologies to all the Welsh people...I should have known how badly the sting of racist, derogatory statements burns. I too have been called bad things: cracker, white-bitch, whitey, blue-eyed punk...
 

tryingtogrow89

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Im a liar because i refuse to say "the founding fathers owned slaves" which is UB's direct claim, Because of the direct claim i said something of preposterous, but less profound by saying "the founding fathers did not own slaves"
My statement is more than 2/3 correct
UB's statement is less than 1/3 correct
Do we all get it now?
Preposterous fought with preposterous but more truthful preposterous.
Less than 1/3 of the founding fathers owned slaves, and that is speculated, either way you chop it not very many of them owned slaves and is there doesnot seem to be definite information regardless.
28% of free blacks in the south owned slaves, slavery was huge back then, all over the world, it was Africa's people being enslaved and sold by their own people.
With our founding fathers it is a matter of history, slavery was a big part of it, thomas jeffersons views changed through out his life, by the end of it, he didnt believe in slavery.
 

dukeanthony

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welsh(w
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intr.v. welshed also welched, welsh·ing also welch·ing, welsh·es also welch·es Informal 1. To swindle a person by not paying a debt or wager.
2. To fail to fulfill an obligation.
 

dukeanthony

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Bunch of useless meandering might as well just cut all your Lying crap out.


Check out my sig
Now Check out what you just wrote
You are Wrong Apologize for being a total dick about it. Make amens by actually reading a History book
And resign as moderator as you are Obligated to do under the terms of our wager
 

UncleBuck

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.1. your misinterpretation.
tell me an interpretation in which a slave had an equal opportunity in life as the person that owned them then.

.2 true. Only you took it out of context.
so, tell me how blacks today would be better off providing free labor then.

.3 more true than saying they did, we went over this, I said they didnt because you said they did, both preposterous statements but one less by 2/3.
your statement would only be true if you used the proper qualifier, i.e. "some". "some founding fathers didn't own slaves" is a true statement, but "the founding fathers did not own slaves" is a completely false statement, a lie.

we can review the difference between "for some" and "for all" statements again, if you want.

.4 your statement was "the ff owned slaves" which is preposterous considering you are misleading in your claim, only 1/3 did buck.
we can go back and forth about how to define a 'founding father', but at least 15 of them had plenty of slaves. i'm sure many of the rest had house slaves (not plantation slaves).

hell, james monroe didn't own so many slaves and didn't believe in slavery so much that he executed about 30 of his slaves :dunce:

I did not lie once.
LOL!

You claim that Ron Paul fucks turtles with your rhetoric, on top of many others, you are the only liar here buck.
i asked a question: is ron paul a turtle fucker?

the people have spoken.
 

tryingtogrow89

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YOu are a Liar and a Racist one at that




HEY CHECK OUT MY SIGNATURE



The founding fathers didnt allow slavery or police it, it just was, there is nothing incorrect in my statement, more than 2/3 of the founding fathers didnt own slaves, with most not believing in it at the end of their days, but lets not focus on that.
Get it through and interpret slavery in general as i have already brought up.
 

UncleBuck

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My statement is more than 2/3 correct
UB's statement is less than 1/3 correct
you do not get how logic works.

your statement was a 'FOR ALL' statement. "the founding fathers did not own slaves" is a 'FOR ALL' statement, and it is 100% false.

you would have been 100% right if you had simply made a 'FOR SOME' statement, i.e. "some of the founding fathers did not own slaves".

HOW DO YOU NOT GET THIS?
 

dukeanthony

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The founding fathers didnt allow slavery or police it, it just was, there is nothing incorrect in my statement, more than 2/3 of the founding fathers didnt own slaves, with most not believing in it at the end of their days, but lets not focus on that.
Get it through and interpret slavery in general as i have already brought up.
If you and I were in a Bar together and you tried to pull this Shit on a bet
You be getting your azz kicked right now while i am taking your money off the bar
 

UncleBuck

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Check out my sig
Now Check out what you just wrote
You are Wrong Apologize for being a total dick about it. Make amens by actually reading a History book
And resign as moderator as you are Obligated to do under the terms of our wager
he never made a wager with you.
 

UncleBuck

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If you and I were in a Bar together and you tried to pull this Shit on a bet
You be getting your azz kicked right now while i am taking your money off the bar
cool it on the violence.

i have to go make clones now. please, try to keep it civil.

that goes for two people specifically.
 

UncleBuck

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Is this a bet?
Followed by actions to secure his part of the bet?
Yeah its always a bet until you realize you are about to lose
i looked at the thread, he never accepted a bet with you.

trust me, he has refused to tae bets with me before. i offered to bet him that ron paul would lose but he would not accept :lol:
 

tryingtogrow89

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tell me an interpretation in which a slave had an equal opportunity in life as the person that owned them then.



so, tell me how blacks today would be better off providing free labor then.
This is an old conversation and i already explained myself thoroughly and have been agreed with and concurred with and kudosed.:mrgreen:



your statement would only be true if you used the proper qualifier, i.e. "some". "some founding fathers didn't own slaves" is a true statement, but "the founding fathers did not own slaves" is a completely false statement, a lie.

we can review the difference between "for some" and "for all" statements again, if you want.



we can go back and forth about how to define a 'founding father', but at least 15 of them had plenty of slaves. i'm sure many of the rest had house slaves (not plantation slaves).
I dont even know where to start with this one, first off, i already explained it to you, you were the first to say "the founding fathers owned slaves" which is preposterous because you were misleading by not stating SOME of the founding fathers owned slaves, you took the initiative first.Therefore your statement was misleading, lie, and preposterous to the degree of your statement being less than 1/3 correct. I then replied with "the founding fathers didnt own slaves" which is preposterous because i didnt say MOST didnt own slaves, do you get it? i was pulling what you were polling, and even though, i was still more correct than you. More than 2/3 correct vs less than 1/3 correct both preposterous, my preposterous statement was mirroring you. But still not as bad for the fact you were far more misleading than i, lie!


hell, james monroe didn't own so many slaves and didn't believe in slavery so much that he executed about 30 of his slaves :dunce:



LOL!


i asked a question: is ron paul a turtle fucker?

the people have spoken.
Ron paul is not a turtle fucker your own poll states this, so LIE! (the people never spoke in your favor lie again)
Also your more than just having a poll "is ron paul a turtle fucker"
You also go around spitting "ron paul is a turtle fucker" so another lie.
 
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