Do you flush? Do you kill the lights prior to harvest?

[reggaerican]

Most street smokers don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to weed. As long as it stinks to high heaven and is covered in THC, they are happy as a pig in shit and will come back for more. It is your more discerning smoker that will be able to taste and critique your weed.

A good cure works wonders but I aint selling weed thats 1-2 month cured, why would I? Do I get any extra money for my extra work..... No.

I yeild around 2 Kg a pop, am I gonna keep that in my house for months to cure and have another grow on, not on your nelly, the feds would throw the book at me if they popped round for a cup of tea and a biscuit.
I flush nothing although I do give just water every 3-4 feeds. 60+ oz goes in a week and they love it, the rest goes into cure for percy. Essentially it is only experienced grower and dealers that know the difference in quality.

Once again great post.. And your right! for the commercial grrower with looks and smell it will sell all the same, but for the connoisseur grower like myself the flush is a must.

 

[MrMeanGreen]

great post.... And I totally agree. The last two weeks is when you should be boosting the crap out of her.. I do believe that a final flush product should be used to get all the unused nutes out tho

I used the pregnant woman analogy coz my mrs is 8 months pregnant, and eating like a horse. The analogy is actually very true and liken to weed, underweight and underfed women give birth to underweight babies. That said big fat birds dont exactly give birth to 15lb monsters.

 

[MrMeanGreen]

Once again great post.. And your right! for the commercial grrower with looks and smell it will sell all the same, but for the connoisseur grower like myself the flush is a must.

Not neccessarily my friend, a well cured smoke will have no evidence that it wasn't flushed. If ya ever in the London area (c;

 

[reggaerican]

I used the pregnant woman analogy coz my mrs is 8 months pregnant, and eating like a horse. The analogy is actually very true and liken to weed, underweight and underfed women give birth to underweight babies. That said big fat birds dont exactly give birth to 15lb monsters.

Hey congrats on the baby MrMeangreen. My good friend Rene from this site just had a baby boy also.. Tiss the season I guess. Boy or girl? well whatever it is smother that little sucker with love they grow like weeds..

 

[reggaerican]

Not neccessarily my friend, a well cured smoke will have no evidence that it wasn't flushed. If ya ever in the London area (c;

that sounds like a chalange to me..LOL
so how long of a cure are you talking about? maybe I will do a little test come next harvest, flush all but one of my plants and see if I can tell the difference..

 

[MrMeanGreen]

Hey congrats on the baby MrMeangreen. My good friend Rene from this site just had a baby boy also.. Tiss the season I guess. Boy or girl? well whatever it is smother that little sucker with love they grow like weeds..

LOL. Cheers matey but this is boy number 5, I don't do girls (apart from impregnating them), they are nothing but trouble, even the grown up ones.

 

[reggaerican]

five boys get down man.. or should I say get up? heck sounds like you spend way too much time in bed.. lol
and I hear you bout them girls I have a 16yo.

 

[MrMeanGreen]

five boys get down man.. or should I say get up? heck sounds like you spend way too much time in bed.. lol
and I hear you bout them girls I have a 16yo.

I have to ask and sorry to OP for swerving of course........ What did you say or do when ya 12-13 daughter wants G-strings, short skirts etc. I would just lock her in a cupboard till she was at least 21.

 

[MrMeanGreen]

that sounds like a chalange to me..LOL
so how long of a cure are you talking about? maybe I will do a little test come next harvest, flush all but one of my plants and see if I can tell the difference..

If I am honest, most of mine doesn't last much more than a month in cure b4 it's gone. I have some good friends who only come to me and demand my percy. LOL

 

[reggaerican]

I have to ask and sorry to OP for swerving of course........ What did you say or do when ya 12-13 daughter wants G-strings, short skirts etc. I would just lock her in a cupboard till she was at least 21.

well luckily for me my daughter didnt take that road.. she is quite the little angel. that just might be cause her 17yo brother would beat the shit out of her or any guy that tries to get near her... lol daddy has the easy job..

 

[ddimebag]

Would you stop feeding a pregnant woman 2 months before her due date???

No, so why would you stop feeding your plants for the last quater of it's flower (fattening) period.

lolololol this is THE most retarded comment that I have seen on RIU so far...because OBVIOUSLY plants and people are identical in structure and needs...

 

[ddimebag]

oh, yeah, for the OP: I water with plain water the last 10 days, and keep them in the dark for 1-3 days before chopping. Also, I cut the main stem first, and IN THE DARK. I read that sugars are transported to the roots for storage during dark hours, and transported back to the leaves to be used as an energy source when the light comes on. Since sugars are unpleasant and unhealthy to smoke, I cut the plant before they have a chance to migrate back to the leaves and buds. Don't know if this is actually the case, and if there is a significant difference, but it's not much extra effort, so I do it.

 

[MrMeanGreen]

dimebag :- lolololol this is THE most retarded comment that I have seen on RIU so far...because OBVIOUSLY plants and people are identical in structure and needs...

Oh fuck me, heres me thinking we were the same as plants, best stop feeding my kids on superthrive and canna boost. I was hoping it would make my kids at least 6 ft tall with big muscles. Thank god you were around, I will flush them immediatley.

Oh but hold on..... is there not a basic concept that applies to all forms of life. Do all forms of life not need nutrients, water, sunlight etc? All forms of life (babies) take from the mother , to the mothers detriment at times. So iirelavent of what the neutrients are, the concept is the same. Now who's the fuking retard.

 

[k0ijn]

oh, yeah, for the OP: I water with plain water the last 10 days, and keep them in the dark for 1-3 days before chopping. Also, I cut the main stem first, and IN THE DARK. I read that sugars are transported to the roots for storage during dark hours, and transported back to the leaves to be used as an energy source when the light comes on. Since sugars are unpleasant and unhealthy to smoke, I cut the plant before they have a chance to migrate back to the leaves and buds. Don't know if this is actually the case, and if there is a significant difference, but it's not much extra effort, so I do it.

Sugars which are produced as a result of photosynthesis are stored in the roots as starch. This process doesn't have anything to do with dark hours.
These sugars don't 'migrate back to the buds'. They are used when needed.

Where did you read the information? Link?

 

[medical/420]

My plants get ONLY WATER for the last 2-3 weeks . I stop feeding at week 6 in flower. and at the end I leave them in the dark for 3 days. and the resins just pour out

 

[ddimebag]

dimebag :- lolololol this is THE most retarded comment that I have seen on RIU so far...because OBVIOUSLY plants and people are identical in structure and needs...

Oh fuck me, heres me thinking we were the same as plants, best stop feeding my kids on superthrive and canna boost. I was hoping it would make my kids at least 6 ft tall with big muscles. Thank god you were around, I will flush them immediatley.



Oh but hold on..... is there not a basic concept that applies to all forms of life. Do all forms of life not need nutrients, water, sunlight etc? All forms of life (babies) take from the mother , to the mothers detriment at times. So iirelavent of what the neutrients are, the concept is the same. Now who's the fuking retard.

If you DON"T think people are the same as plants, then why compare plants to people? The concept of nutrition may be similar, but saying that stressing a person and stressing a plant is the same thing is just absurd. If you don't eat for a month, you will probably die. Newsflash: if you don't feed a cannabis plant for a month, guess what, it will survive just fine, given that other conditions are acceptable. It won't achieve its full potential, but it will live. Again, you can't compare a plant to a person when it comes to energy requirements. Also, the "basic concepts that apply to all forms of life" are so basic that they are completely irrelevant in this discussion. Just because all living things need nucleotides to build their DNA doesn't mean that they all need equal amounts of nutrition at identical stages of life. Life on this planet is too diverse to make generalizations like "if you won't starve a pregnant lady then you shouldn't starve your plant".

 

[ddimebag]

Sugars which are produced as a result of photosynthesis are stored in the roots as starch. This process doesn't have anything to do with dark hours.
These sugars don't 'migrate back to the buds'. They are used when needed.

Where did you read the information? Link?

Good question, I will look that up later this evening...busy now, but I will definitely look it up and post a link or two. I think one of the sources was here on RIU, but I believe I saw a more reliable article somewhere...

 

[calicat]

I just wanted to get an idea where our peeps stand on these two topics. I am from the old school, but 'want to stay current with new discoveries.

Thank you.

I flush about 10-14 days prior to harvest. I leave my plants that are about to be harvested in complete darkness for a period of three days. The plants begin to think they are dying therefore they produce more crystal.

 

[DelQ]

What? I'm not quite sure what your point is or how you came to the conclusion.
Please provide the scientific information you have on how nutrients are stored in the calyxes.

I have linked to a scientific study (conducted by educated scientists) on nutrient storage in plants, in a different thread on the topic of pre-harvest flushing, it's readily available for you to read.

It explains rather well how and where nutrients are stored in plants and how quickly these nutrients are used up.
Nutrients are mainly stored in the roots and stems, with a somewhat significant storage in the leaves as well.
I'd like to stress that we're talking about storage here, not usage or where nutrients are transported to/are used.

It also explains how yield relates to deficiencies, abundances and critical (optimum) feeding schedules.
If you over- or underfeed you will end up with a worse yield than you could have had you stayed @ critical feeding levels.
It also reveals how the nutrient levels will be in percentages, in the various areas of the plant with regards to deficiency, abundance and critical feeding.

Why are you talking about photosynthesis (I assume that's what you meant)?
Steroids? Why are you talking about using steroids and flushing those steroids out?

Sorry bro I don't write or spell very good.. Many props to you for your ability to take pen to paper.. I do mean that...

I'm just a guy who has my AG status for the last 17 years,, I can't give you scientific data. But I can give you common since side of this..

Everybody knows, A scientific study is only as good as the company that pays for it.... I can show studies by scientist that tell you Cigs are not bad for you.. So you get my point.. So the question is who paid for the study that you are link to ?

So I believe If you feed plants (Nuts) or as I call them (Steroids) for there whole life, your not going to get them out of the whole plant with a 2 week flush.. regardless of some scientific study. What you put into the plant becomes part of the plant. This includes the Buds. Like I said its what I believe, after living in a agricultural community for the last 17 years.. Like I said before here in Colorado in the produce department they have two sections one that has produce that was grown with (steroids) and the other they call (organic) The Organic section of produce you are going to pay at least 25 percent more for.. This is at Safeway.. so see my point..

Now what do you think the difference is in produce they call organic or regular produce ? Plants that are grown with roids grow quick and big no doubt, but its not any better, but it is faster.. Now every Farmer I know with huge commercial operation, will always always use ever drop of water they can use even if its not theres... Ya our water commissioner is busy.. lmao!!

So The OP wants great product, so he should go all natural if its practical. Or go to one of the expert growers on this web sight and follow is program exactly.

In the next 3-5 years you will see a organic section and a regular section at dispensaries,, right now we have organic beef vegetables and fruit why not have true organic weed,, in the next few post a guy makes a great point it doesn't matter to the guy on the street that needs meds,, if it smells good and he gets high he buying that shit... LMAO, Growers should be able to grow how ever they want , That's why were here to try to be better growers...

 

[k0ijn]

Sorry bro I don't write or spell very good.. Many props to you for your ability to take pen to paper.. I do mean that...

I'm just a guy who has my AG status for the last 17 years,, I can't give you scientific data. But I can give you common since side of this..

Everybody knows, A scientific study is only as good as the company that pays for it.... I can show studies by scientist that tell you Cigs are not bad for you.. So you get my point.. So the question is who paid for the study that you are link to ?

So I believe If you feed plants (Nuts) or as I call them (Steroids) for there whole life, your not going to get them out of the whole plant with a 2 week flush.. regardless of some scientific study. What you put into the plant becomes part of the plant. This includes the Buds. Like I said its what I believe, after living in a agricultural community for the last 17 years.. Like I said before here in Colorado in the produce department they have two sections one that has produce that was grown with (steroids) and the other they call (organic) The Organic section of produce you are going to pay at least 25 percent more for.. This is at Safeway.. so see my point..

Now what do you think the difference is in produce they call organic or regular produce ? Plants that are grown with roids grow quick and big no doubt, but its not any better, but it is faster.. Now every Farmer I know with huge commercial operation, will always always use ever drop of water they can use even if its not theres... Ya our water commissioner is busy.. lmao!!

So The OP wants great product, so he should go all natural if its practical. Or go to one of the expert growers on this web sight and follow is program exactly.

In the next 3-5 years you will see a organic section and a regular section at dispensaries,, right now we have organic beef vegetables and fruit why not have true organic weed,, in the next few post a guy makes a great point it doesn't matter to the guy on the street that needs meds,, if it smells good and he gets high he buying that shit... LMAO, Growers should be able to grow how ever they want , That's why were here to try to be better growers...

Scientific research is carried out with stringent rules and regulations.
I'm not saying all research is to be trusted fully but if it's done properly it's certainly ascertained as fact in the scientific community.
I have not linked to pseudo-scientific research.

Organic growers still use nutrients.
Nutrients are the same at the molecular level, a Nitride (Nitrogen ion) is a nitride.
That goes for organic and chemically produced nutrients alike.

Of course there are differences between organic nutrients and chemical nutrients.
But when it comes to nutrient transportation, storage and usage it's the same basic science.

We have organic sections where I live, it's nothing new really, it's been around for 30 years.

My point is that the way a cannabis plant feeds and the way it processes, stores/allocates the nutrients is the same across the board.
Attaining an abundance of nutrients in the calyxes is near impossible, since the roots, leaves and stem(s) would shrivel and die before you would get those levels.
Now of course different species use and allocate nutrients in different ways, depending on climate, the age of the plant and most predominately; depending on the season.
Nutrients like Nitrogen, Phosphorous and Potassium are used up almost immediately to promote growth.
Mainly sugars are stored (produce by photosynthesis). They are stored in the roots.

An abundance (over-feeding) and/or a deficiency (under-feeding) is detrimental to any plant.
Keeping a critical level of nutrients in the solution regardless of method (soil, hydro, aero) is key to promote optimal growth.