I'm getting extremely tired of this "medical" front people are using.

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Be honest.
You sell pot
You make money


Legalizing possession and growing and making it illegal to sell would hurt you financially wouldnt it?
I don't sell any, ever. Making it illegal to sell is not enforceable. Making it illegal to sell it to people who need it medicinally is not ethical, particularly if they are infirm and it is not only unethical from the standpoint of impeding treatment, it forces caregivers to give away a product that can be costly to grow.

Your opinions are both wrong. Your opinion that it isn't medicine, and your opinion that patients are just degenerate pot heads are both nothing more than opinions. In fact, laughter is one of the greatest medicines, for many conditions, not only psychological ones. Cannabis provides this with no risk. I suggest you take a look at the graph that Samwell Seedwell posted on the first page of this thread.

However, I do not begrudge your non medicinal use and I do notice that you do not begrudge others the same, to your credit.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Name one doctor that has prescribed marijuana in the last 30 years?

Oh that's right
They give recommendations. How do you sue for a recommendation?
I didn't say anything about sueing doctors Mr Strawboy, I said that suggesting that cannabis is not medicine is tantamount to claiming thousands of docs are committing malpractice. A doc can commit malpractice and not be sued, civil court has little to do with medical malpractice aside from settlement.
 

NietzscheKeen

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Logic is based on truths (facts),
Logic is based on inference, reasoning, proofs, deduction, induction, truth values and so on, but not necessarily facts. Facts and truths are different things in the context of logic.

I was using alcohol as an analogy. You ask me if I "even know what logic is", so I ask if you even know what an analogy is. I wasn't saying they were alike in any way, so any differences between the two are irrelevant and meaningless. I wasn't making a statement about the medical benefits of alcohol; that's why I said you could substitute "alcohol" with "bananas" or anything else you'd like. The label doesn't change the analogy. You missed the point I was making entirely then you start with your argumentum ad consequentium statements. Also, your trying to equivocate propositional logic with computational logic.

There is nothing to refute. Yes, IF (x ⇒ y) is True, then (barring any additional or unknown variables) then y if x everytime.

What do you say we end this conversation? No hard feelings.

 

REALSTYLES

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Well I live in Los Angeles county and last week I applied for my state Medical Marijuana I.D. card and was approved through the Dept of Public Health. Quit your whining some of us are glad things are the way it is now. And to say take a pill you sir are a dumb ass. Don't you know most pharmacuticals is made from some kind of poison? And kill more people than alcohol
 

UncleBuck

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Logic is based on inference, reasoning, deduction, induction, truth values and so on, but not necessarily facts. Facts and truths are different things in the context of logic.

I was using alcohol as an analogy. You ask me if I "even know what logic is", so I ask if you even know what an analogy is. I wasn't saying they were alike in any way, so any differences between the two are irrelevant and meaningless. I wasn't making a statement about the medical benefits of alcohol; that's why I said you could substitute "alcohol" with "bananas" or anything else you'd like. The label doesn't change the analogy. You missed the point I was making entirely then you start with your argumentum ad consequentium statements. Also, your trying to equivocate propositional logic with computational logic.

There is nothing to refute. Yes, IF (x ⇒ y) is True, then (barring any additional or unknown variables) then y if x everytime.

What do you say we end this conversation? No hard feelings.
 

NietzscheKeen

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That's a very weak argument Realstyles. And you also missed the point I was originally trying to make. Maybe it wasn't very clear since everyone is preaching to me about the medical benefits of cannabis. Reread my posts, I was not denying there were any medical benefits. My problem is with the new language that has arisen since medical marijuana has come into existence.
 

REALSTYLES

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And what is the real reason for your thread. What you say doesn't make any sense. I got my card for being shot with a shotgun from a mugger and I still have buckshots in to this day. I feel that eveyone should be able to smoke. The world wwould be a better place.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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So you come on a marijuana grow site, lay claim to the disorders you think can be helped by marijuana, then tell everyone else to take pills to deal with their diseases/problems?

good luck with that.
 

NietzscheKeen

Well-Known Member
Very regretful, but he died of an overdose not from taking the medication as prescribed.

Additionally, I've made my point very clear throughout this thread.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
That's a very weak argument Realstyles. And you also missed the point I was originally trying to make. Maybe it wasn't very clear since everyone is preaching to me about the medical benefits of cannabis. Reread my posts, I was not denying there were any medical benefits. My problem is with the new language that has arisen since medical marijuana has come into existence.
What is the problem? Imo the shift in language is salutary ... it works counter to the demonization of, well, y'know, the Devil's Celery. cn
 

NietzscheKeen

Well-Known Member
And nobody has ever fucked a chicken....

There is always an exception to the rule. Why don't we make pills illegal people have died from taking them. Let's make water illegal, people have drowned in it.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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He died of an overdose not from taking the medication as prescribed.

Dear Dictator of the medicinal value of marijuana,

I am glad you have come to show us your judgmental ideology, providing no medical studies to back your claims. It is up to individuals as to how they medicate themselves and the terminology they use. Maybe you should smoke a joint to cure your douchebagedness.
 

REALSTYLES

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Very regretful, but he died of an overdose not from taking the medication as prescribed.

Additionally, I've made my point very clear throughout this thread.
I see where you're confused. Marijuana is natural there's no need to process it other than growing it, drying it and curing it. As for pills it has to go through a long process from manufacturing to testing it and getting it approved by the FDA. I'm keeping it short but I could go into details but why waste my time
 
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