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Indeed. I find it disturbing how many people, who claim to believe in America and who claim to believe in what America represents, supports this killing. It's no wonder we're in the shape we're in.

I loved it. Especially the "I can write shit REAL fancy...." Well done. :)

Yeah right....

Perhaps, but that's not the point now, is it? To a lot of people, he's a hero. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Why is this so difficult for so many to comprehend? But again....that's not the point. OBL attacked us because we "meddle" in the affairs of sovereign nations. Our...

Not sure where this is coming from. Condemn you? Do you wish to be adversarial? I wasn't referring to Che as a leader. I was pointing out that men like Che and OBL are "created" by oppressive governments. I know how Che died, but I don't see how his death is relevant to the discussion.

Yes, yes....We all know about the Monroe Doctrine and American Imperialism. The fact is clear...Guzman was elected by the people of Guatemala. What does this mean? The people wanted him as their leader (mostly the commoners. The wealthy did not). The "people" wanted him and voted him into...

That would not be a bad thing. You claim to be "tolerant" but your posts/actions belie your claim.

Wow....Unbelievable.

You may call it an interesting counter, but I disagree. Of course there was "tension". Guzman had the support of "the people" (the very same people you say who have an obligation to exercise their rights). The wealthy (United Fruit included)did not support him. Tension or no, United Fruit acted...

So when Jacobo Guzman was DEMOCRATICALLY elected president of Guatemala running on the platform of supporting his people from the exploitation of United Fruit and then subsequently overthrown by the CIA in a coup d'etat, who should be held accountable? The people spoke and elected a leader that...

Fixed that for ya....;) **grin**

And the escalation continues....Might makes right. Gunboat diplomacy breeds hatred and contempt. Until we realize that, we will be hated. I used to think as you did but I think with age comes a bit more wisdom. At 51 years, as a veteran of the US Army, I've seen enough to know that we should...

They exercised that right when they brought down the WTC.

OK...Do you feel that it is the right of the citizens that have been subjected to our "covert operations" to retaliate, or should they simply accept that we will do what we want and they should accept it.

Do you find it acceptable also for a government to conduct covert activities and overthrow democratically elected leaders?

You do realize how this makes you look, yes? Your statement is more telling of yourself than anything else.

Well that's good. It'd take me at least that long to setup the servants' quarters.

Heard that UB. It's akin to the thinking that if Ron Paul is elected then we're gonna see slavery reinstated by the states the very next day, huh? ;) **grin**

Interesting. Would you perhaps be including this Republican in your "kiss my ass" statement?

I have a philosophy when I manage my department....I lead by example. I wouldn't expect my men to do anything I wouldn't do. America is the "Shining Beacon Of Democracy" in this world. We are the symbol of freedom. We expect others to "emulate" us, do we not? Perhaps we too are "leading by example".