1.5lbs/light in a 2x1000w in a 4x8ft Tent

What do you think the average will be?

  • 1-1.2lbs/light

    Votes: 4 19.0%
  • 1.3lbs/light

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • 1.4lbs/light

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • 1.5lbs/light

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • 1.6lbs/light or more

    Votes: 10 47.6%

  • Total voters
    21

dr.tomb

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This grow I am continuing on efforts of user Max420THC. I am 3 weeks into flower and I will be growing one screen of 9 Critical + 2.0 and another screen that is a mix of 6 Original Cheese and 3 White Berry.

My last grow I finished was 1lbs/light average with one side actually hitting 1.3lbs.

I have a gorilla grow 4x8 Tent, that has the walls lined with Orca Film. There are 2 low cost Amazon 1000w HPS Bulbs ($30/bulb that i use 2 months then replace). I have 2 cool tube reflectors that I have lined the reflectors with the same orca film as the sides of the tent.

Im growing in a Ebb and Flow 5 gal bucket system which has 100% perlite. Using 2 parts of a 3 part fertilizer at 8ml/4L of micro and 16ml/4L of bloom. Also Silica and calmag.

The clones were approximately 1 month old, and were on a flood and drain table in 1gal pots or solo cups filled with a 50/50 mix of perlite and coco coir. They have been topped with 3/4 tops each, before moving into the 5gal buckets.

Once transplanted i vegged for approx a week before flipping the lights to flower. I cut all the plants to the height of the lowest branch under the net. I then used a technique not heavily promoted on this site, removal of almost all lower branches, leaving all fan leaves and maybe 1-3 bud sites at the very top of each terminal stem. In this way the plant has only a few places to send all the growth, the top. I also pick the top 24-30 terminal stems and remove anything more (depends how dense the plants grow, more indica plants tend to have less tops that i leave, the idea is to allow optimal penetration of the whole cola, with the least amount of over lap of fan leaves and optimal air flow). As the plants grow if a stem starts to gow taller then the surrounding, pinch it near the top (often ill pinch 5 or more in a screen) .

At the end of the week for the next 3, i will analyze the branches for growth. Any branch that grows away from the main terminal by more then 1 inch is removed. At first this is very unnerving and looks almost Frankenstein-ish. Also After the last trim, I lower a double screen over the plants and seperate them to allow penetration, air flow and little overlap of fan leaves. Take note of this, next grow you may have to allow more tops or less based on this.

At this point I'll relax and adjust the light height as the plants grow.

Pictures

Here are the girls when they first go to flower. See how the lower branches are removed and no fan leaves.
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Week 3 with screens placed
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growingforfun

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Did you just say you lined your reflectors with ocra film...? Wtf are you lining a reflector with flammable material for? You know they are metal for a reason right?
 

dr.tomb

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Did you just say you lined your reflectors with ocra film...? Wtf are you lining a reflector with flammable material for? You know they are metal for a reason right?
Orca film is 12mm thick and different material then standard black and white poly, and the reflectors are cool tubes. I've been running this setup for 3 months with no issues.
 

growingforfun

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Orca film is 12mm thick and different material then standard black and white poly, and the reflectors are cool tubes. I've been running this setup for 3 months with no issues.
Hold a lighter to it an see if it burns. I get that they are cool tunes, but if a fan fails it could be a huge problem right? Fans fail. Over the years it's only happened to me 1 or 2 times but it can happen. Just seems like a needless risk to me ya know?
 

growingforfun

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Besides that it looks like a good system tho, I imagine you'll be able to hit your 1.5 a light mark. I'm just really nervous about that orca in the reflector, the risk:reward ratio seems highly skewed
 

dr.tomb

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The fan could in fact fail, however the tents fan is actually off for an hour or more frequently. I'm not worried and I'll keep you posted if I notice any melting happen. Thanks for the concern though.
 

Heisengrow

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An experienced grower maybe 1.2 with that setup.with what I see and them butchered plants.half a pound in the whole tent
 

dr.tomb

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An experienced grower maybe 1.2 with that setup.with what I see and them butchered plants.half a pound in the whole tent
Hope you follow along, because I already had 1.3lbs dry on one side on the last go. That was without some new additions of the orca film. Not much time left for you to be proved wrong..harvest is Sept. 15 and weigh in will be a couple weeks after that.
 

max420thc

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Everytime you make a improvement your production is going up,
This is good news, the better the plants are trained and treated the better the quality also along with increased production,
You are doing great and headed on the right direction, I think you will hit over 1.5 this run ,assuming temperature and humidity is controlled well .
Everytime you are getting more and better,
Good job
 

growingforfun

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An experienced grower maybe 1.2 with that setup.with what I see and them butchered plants.half a pound in the whole tent
I'd say it's very unlikely to get under 1 lb for the whole tent. Saying .5 for the whole tent just sounds silly imo, unless he loses a substantial amount to mold. I think 3lbs for the whole tent is pretty doable, 2+ seems likely imo.

The orca in the reflector is really bothering me though. I really hope your not putting anyone else at risk.
 

dr.tomb

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I'd say it's very unlikely to get under 1 lb for the whole tent. Saying .5 for the whole tent just sounds silly imo, unless he loses a substantial amount to mold. I think 3lbs for the whole tent is pretty doable, 2+ seems likely imo.

The orca in the reflector is really bothering me though. I really hope your not putting anyone else at risk.
Its a detached garage that sits over 20ft from any other structure.

Here is the wrapped reflector. Not a single burn or melting mark to be seen. Hopefully this eases your mind 20180801_074444.jpg
 

max420thc

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So long as your not putting anyone else at risk do whatcha want :)
It still seems really strange to me but it's all good if your safe an stuff.
We discussed this earlier,
Orca film has a reflective rating if I remember correctly of around 98 percent ( higher then German dimole aluminum) I have tried to catch it fire it will not burn although it can melt in direct flame,
I mentioned to Thom That could try this out. But keep a close eye on it, I have never had to very close to a bulb but really close,
This product will increase your production around 20 to 25 percent has been my finding of it,.
It makes it real easy for growers to hit the gram a watt mark,
1 gram a watt is no big deal 2 and 3 grams even four are doable.
Dialing in your grow room and knowing your strains is most important ,
 

growingforfun

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We discussed this earlier,
Orca film has a reflective rating if I remember correctly of around 98 percent ( higher then German dimole aluminum) I have tried to catch it fire it will not burn although it can melt in direct flame,
I mentioned to Thom That could try this out. But keep a close eye on it, I have never had to very close to a bulb but really close,
This product will increase your production around 20 to 25 percent has been my finding of it,.
It makes it real easy for growers to hit the gram a watt mark,
1 gram a watt is no big deal 2 and 3 grams even four are doable.
Dialing in your grow room and knowing your strains is most important ,
Bullshit on it increasing yield 20-25%. The aluminum is 95%+ and my cool tubes came with aluminum wing reflectors designed to do the job. The flexible orca isnt going to direct properly an your only fighting over a super small % this just seems like a tweaker move to be honest. If it's working out for you, great. But it just seems odd af to me.
 

max420thc

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Bullshit on it increasing yield 20-25%. The aluminum is 95%+ and my cool tubes came with aluminum wing reflectors designed to do the job. The flexible orca isnt going to direct properly an your only fighting over a super small % this just seems like a tweaker move to be honest. If it's working out for you, great. But it just seems odd af to me.
You have your own opinions and I have me scale , I have been called a bull shitter before several times, I am a member of the guild and I know of no other RIU member who is , are you a guild member? I rarely come on to this site because of people just like you, I love you and everything my brother but I do not listen to people like you,
I have heard it all, I do not have time to argue with people like you at all, so you rarely see me .
I do my thing and do it well.
When you get as good as I am, then I will listen to you. When the guild invites you in then I will consider your opinion .
Until then, the more light the more bud. The more root mass the more bud. Simple
 

growingforfun

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You have your own opinions and I have me scale , I have been called a bull shitter before several times, I am a member of the guild and I know of no other RIU member who is , are you a guild member? I rarely come on to this site because of people just like you, I love you and everything my brother but I do not listen to people like you,
I have heard it all, I do not have time to argue with people like you at all, so you rarely see me .
I do my thing and do it well.
When you get as good as I am, then I will listen to you. When the guild invites you in then I will consider your opinion .
Until then, the more light the more bud. The more root mass the more bud. Simple
Meh if it's stupid an it works it isnt stupid right? I still think it's a tweaker move, your totally welcome to do whatever you want an works for you of course. Just pointing out the properly shaped cool tube reflectors probably actually reflect and direct light better.

As to this guild I dont know about, or give a damn about them. I do 1-2 lb plants indoors an that's plenty for me.
 

Heisengrow

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You have your own opinions and I have me scale , I have been called a bull shitter before several times, I am a member of the guild and I know of no other RIU member who is , are you a guild member? I rarely come on to this site because of people just like you, I love you and everything my brother but I do not listen to people like you,
I have heard it all, I do not have time to argue with people like you at all, so you rarely see me .
I do my thing and do it well.
When you get as good as I am, then I will listen to you. When the guild invites you in then I will consider your opinion .
Until then, the more light the more bud. The more root mass the more bud. Simple
All jokes aside with 3300 messages you posted and and only a handful of likes you have to kinda ask yourself how well people actually agree with or like what you post.thats just an outside observation.
 
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