150w hps S.O.G.

sorry bud never tried them
my chronic was before serious did fems
some of the biggest cola ive had on a plant commercial strain potency though should make a good sog

seedsman cross may be an option sleestack is like a hash plant x skunk no1 is always a yielder
maybe critical jack as well

Agito said:

sorry bud never tried them
my chronic was before serious did fems
some of the biggest cola ive had on a plant commercial strain potency though should make a good sog

seedsman cross may be an option sleestack is like a hash plant x skunk no1 is always a yielder
maybe critical jack as well

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ive heard chronic has the huge main colas thats why i asked. since its not meant to be topped (for whatever reason) i figure using it for sog would be perfect.

ive grown critical+ before (the female in the critical jack cross) from dinafem. its a huge yielder. im hoping i get a plant that grows like critical but produces a jack herer high. hopefully. anything is possible though. fyi the critical (for being a commerical cash cropper) has a much better high than other commercial strains like big bud. quality isnt lost. all my friends LOVED it.

i pulled mine with mostly cloudy trichs and it turned out to be a fantastic up high.

oh ive also grown seedsman skunk #1. it was good. smelled awful in the greatest way (a dead skunk in a pile of rotted fruit lol)

i grew 1 fem among 8-9 other plants (when i had 2 600w hps for flowering) and it was the only one you could clearly smell from outside the grow room. high was pretty good for only being 8.1%.


sleestack is like hashplant you're saying? if so i regret not germing it yet. ive been wanting a hashplant strain but they are generally sold out

FlightSchool said:

I have a 150W HPS + 300W of CFL's and I'm doing 2 plants at a time SOG

150W is not a lot of light for penetrating lower leaves so it's best to have the least amount of plants possible and try to supplement with other lights

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You're doin' it wrong. Just sayin, look into SOG a little more. I could easily run 16 plants in 2l hempy bottles with your set up.

themanwiththeplan said:

i have to get 4-5 oz per harvest. no easy task but if i can work my way back up to 1g per watt ill be in good shape since 150w at 1g per watt is 150g which is like just over 5 oz.

itll take awhile to get dialed in since its a new setup grown in a new location so i have to get the environment just right. ive done 2 full complete grows w/ the 150w hps so far. my first yield w/ it was 1 big mason jar (quart size i believe..they can be bought in packs of 10-12 from BALL)

the 2nd time i yielded 2 nearly full mason jars (same size...quart)

both of those grows were with one plant each.

i noticed lots of space in the 2x2 was wasted by only having 1 plant thats why i ended up buying a clone tray/dome rockwool cubes and a smaller t5 so i could veg...make clones...do sog...and repeat.

plus...the other main reason i like SOG is that my trimming will be minimized (colas are always easiest to trim)

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Look into 2l hempy bottles bro. Look at the "World of Hempy" thread in the hydro section and google "Come SOG with me" and study up on the method.

That being said, I think that 4-5oz is aggressive for your setup without thinking about supplemental CFL lighting.

Praetorian said:

You're doin' it wrong. Just sayin, look into SOG a little more. I could easily run 16 plants in 2l hempy bottles with your set up.



Look into 2l hempy bottles bro. Look at the "World of Hempy" thread in the hydro section and google "Come SOG with me" and study up on the method.

That being said, I think that 4-5oz is aggressive for your setup without thinking about supplemental CFL lighting.

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if 4-5oz is aggressive then whats more realistic? im not being a smartass. i honestly dont know what to expect. ive only done 2 grows with a 150w. im still not use to my setup/grow space as 2 grows isnt enough for me to get really dialed in.

i use to grow in a big room w/ 2 600s for flowering and it took me about 2 yrs of growing with those to get it dialed in to the point of pulling down 1g per watt

i hear the 150w lights arent capable of pulling 1g per watt. (hence 5oz not being likely). so if i can pull 1g per watt on a 600 then whats the adjusted down equivalent for a 150w? 3oz? 3.5oz?

yield isnt going to be as important i guess if i take into consideration i wont have to waste anytime on veg under the 150 since i have a 2ft t5 for that so i can use it strictly as a 12/12 light.




btw. i bought an argomax 2ft light hanger and let me say....that was a bad idea. its too damn short to really veg under it. i swear it was intended for cloning only. im gonna have to use something to put under it so i can actually veg a normal sized plant under it. lol

.75g a watt would be fine but yield would reflect size of bulb in your setup

if you had the 600w hps in a 1mx1m space is it any more risk than sog with 9-12 plants vs 9-12 plants under a 150w hps

conviction rates over here seem to be more linked to plant numbers and if your doing hydro than bulb size. stupid i know

so sub 9 plants with a 250w/400w/600w/1000w seems to make more sense in risk vs gain

themanwiththeplan said:

very understandable.

i guess what im hoping is to utilize the 2x2 space to keep an even canopy over the area by flooding it with short basically cola only plants. when im only growing 1 or 2 plants LOTS of light gets wasted as the 150's arent good for penetration. i was hoping by flooding the space with plants that the otherwise "wasted light" or light that never seems to make it down to the bottom of the plants (where "air buds" are usually found) to be put to better use.

will it work? idk.

but im highly motivated since im gonna need to pull at least 3 oz every 2 months from it...4 would be ideal but i doubt it unless i grow "cash croppers" like big bud (which im not interested in).

i do have some chronic seeds from serious on the way and they are suggesting growers NOT top them so i'd assume they will be an excellent experiment for packing a bunch of plants close together.

i'll probably go with grow bags so i can save space but still allow sufficient room for good root development.

i have some 1 gal grow bags that do pretty well. they are narrow (3in by 4 in i believe) and about 10 in tall. my last harvest from my 150 was 1 plant vegged for 20 some odd days under the 150 (in the 1gal grow bag) and flowered for 9 wks and i got about 2 full quart sized mason jars from just that.

so im HOPING i can beat that yield w/ an SOG style where im only growing for colas. or thats what im crossing my fingers for.

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big bud is notorious for being hard to clone so your right to leave it but for the wrong reasons.

personally if i was doing a sog setup i in a 2x2 space . i would buy 16 6" pots and root 4 clones every 2 weeks, then start with 4 under the light and add 4 more every 2 weeks. that way you keep a decent mother and you can dial in on a particular strain to maximise your yeild. that way your pulling in a harvest after the first every 2 weeks. less bud more often.

perpetual is the way to go my friend when doing a sog under a small light. and i would take the advice and maybe move up to a 250w. they cost hardly anything to run. im running one for under £5 a week with fans and it will make a huge difference to your yeild.

also i would just like to add while on the subject of 1g per watt, a friend of mine invited me over to see his grow last week before he chopped it down and he had 8 plants under 1 600w light, they were all over 6ft tall and yeilded 3364 grams dried in total. thats like 15oz per plant. he vegged for a bloody long time and had them all in 7gl pots. i have to say i was mucho impressed not only by yeild but by weed plants that were taller than me

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also i would just like to add while on the subject of 1g per watt, a friend of mine invited me over to see his grow last week before he chopped it down and he had 8 plants under 1 600w light, they were all over 6ft tall and yeilded 3364 grams dried in total. thats like 15oz per plant. he vegged for a bloody long time and had them all in 7gl pots. i have to say i was mucho impressed not only by yeild but by weed plants that were taller than me

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im sorry but 3.364 kg from 1x600 is complete BS ive seen experts gardeners aproach 1.4.-2g per watt with 20 years exp but 5.6g per watt come on
wet maybe but not dry

brettsog said:

also i would just like to add while on the subject of 1g per watt, a friend of mine invited me over to see his grow last week before he chopped it down and he had 8 plants under 1 600w light, they were all over 6ft tall and yeilded 3364 grams dried in total. thats like 15oz per plant. he vegged for a bloody long time and had them all in 7gl pots. i have to say i was mucho impressed not only by yeild but by weed plants that were taller than me

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pics or it didnt happen.

i can agree with ur point about 16 plants in 6inch pots and putting 16 plants under the 150w in a 2x2 space...makes sense...16 6 inch points would fill the entire 2x2 floor space.

but no damn way he pulled 3000+ grams under a 600w. idc how long you veg. thats pretty much impossible. idc if u use big bud and co2. i still dont see it happening...

3000+ grams wet maybe.

100% he has some pics ill see if he will chuck me a couple to show, the colas were as thick as my calf (im 18st and 6'2" use your imagination) the smell in the room was unbelievable. his tent is like an entire room, when he said he was gonna start growing i thought he meant on a small scale like me but daaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmn

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100% he has some pics ill see if he will chuck me a couple to show, the colas were as thick as my calf (im 18st and 6'2" use your imagination) the smell in the room was unbelievable. his tent is like an entire room, when he said he was gonna start growing i thought he meant on a small scale like me but daaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmn

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I dont think you understand what your actually saying theres growers that have 10K grow rooms that grow 365 days a year in hydro and co2 and get 1.3-1.5g per watt 2g per watt would make him probs the best grower in the world and your mate nearly tripled that hahaha

its not even close to the realms of reality a hps is only good for the first 2-3 ft of plant growth after that the canopy blocks all the light so 6ft plants are a waste indoors
118.5 oz per 600w hps you must think we are stupid

the plant room would have to be so large to fit 118oz in it the light would not even cover it

i dont think anyone is stupid and i dont like the insinuation that im a liar. what do i gain from it? i havent said i have done it. i will get some pics off of him later.

I dont care what you think if you dont like it report me to a mod
spreading perpetual BS does more damage to forums than anything else and anyone with an oz of grow knowledge knows what your saying is complete bull fool you for believing it.

there really is a bigger and better world out there, i have no urge to report you for anything as i dont feel like anything was said out of turn. its not bs, im not asking you to believe me i was merely sharing an experience.

and it can be done. a while back i posted a pic i found of a plant that produced 7lb, it actually looked like a tree around the base of the stem. that was only one plant.

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wheres the indoor 1x600w hps and 8 other plants in 7 gallon pots with 118oz dry?
Is this real life?

i see 1 outdoor plant stuck in the ground

2lb+ plants outdoor are not rare the sun does not put out 600w
it puts out 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 watts a touch different

flower instantly from clone so that you keep them plants small so that you can cover them with you 150whps. 150w is a little on the low side tho. a 250w is what you want for that area so that you can get a nice 416w/m2 wich would pay off quite well in the end. 250w/m2 is still good but when growing real SoG (rougly 4 plants per square f.) you need a lot of light . i would recommend not growing a lot of different strains from seed since you will have a lot of difference in height and well, in sog you need the height to be even or it will not be effective :/. growing perpetual is the best way to go with any area if you ask me. just grow according to your needs . start a little here and there and use whatever you want for pots and just play around. after a while you will know what you need to do . good sog strain would probably be Female seeds black sugar since its so damn compact and hardly stretches. the c99 from female seeds you mention is also a good choice since she is easy to clone and fast flowering, but be aware! some phenos are stretchy motherfuckers no matter what you do :/. i personally recommend Madness from World of seeds. it doesnt stretch a lot if given enough light but is a fast grower in both veg and flower and its also a very sturdy plant that grows well even if treated poorly. it has strong citrus smell/taste is mad potent. only thing i dont like with it is that it need a lot of nutes when in fowering (roghly 2000ppm is soil week5-6 flower...) but its 100% worth it.

brettsog said:

there really is a bigger and better world out there, i have no urge to report you for anything as i dont feel like anything was said out of turn. its not bs, im not asking you to believe me i was merely sharing an experience.

and it can be done. a while back i posted a pic i found of a plant that produced 7lb, it actually looked like a tree around the base of the stem. that was only one plant.

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so if i veg a plant for a year under 50w cfl and then put it outside before the summer i can say i got 2pounds from 50w cfl?

cool

this thread is going to the lol

Does said grower have pics of said room of 600W with said pounds of bud?