1st Grow - Custom Room: Pineapple Chunk, Spc. Kush, Ice, G13, Hollands Hope

Yeah, that seems like it could account for it. Could be the gap or could be another issue that stressed the plant, or didn't allow for aggressive root growth?

Feminized pollen is possible. Colloidal Silver has to be used to induce a female to produce male flowers. Different from a hermie because it just blocks a hormone that then causes the sacks to develop. Then every seed should be a female with no more tendency to turn hermie than the underlying strain would otherwise. Very convenient for outdoor growing... I strongly prefer regular seeds, but feminized have their utility...

I'll be damned. I knew about the colloidal silver, but never knew it works its magic on the pollen

So whatd'ya think I can do for my hh? Anything? At least all won't be lost, I got several excellent cuttings for a friend last night.

From what you have said I would probably try to make the pot into a modified airpot. If you think there may be a gap maybe try to compress the soil lightly as well... maybe do that over a few waterings.

Drill some holes in different spots around the pot to allow more air in and help with air pruning the roots. Might also water the HH more slowly saturating the top layer more thoroughly where the roots currently are concentrated. Take that with a grain of salt, just giving some thoughts based on my experience with plants.

Cascadian said:

If you think there may be a gap maybe try to compress the soil lightly as well... maybe do that over a few waterings.

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I've been doing this, but more to prevent problems, not so much because I thought they existed already .

Cascadian said:

Drill some holes in different spots around the pot to allow more air in and help with air pruning the roots. Might also water the HH more slowly saturating the top layer more thoroughly where the roots currently are concentrated. Take that with a grain of salt, just giving some thoughts based on my experience with plants.

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Do you mean holes in the pots side? And if so, top, center, or lower on the pot. I'd say any gap still existing is at the last 1/4 of the pot.

I think you are doing the most important thing already, trying to eliminate pockets of air in the soil/pot so the roots can find their way.

The idea with the holes is something many have tried on RIU and have claimed good success with. So just thought it might give them an edge in their recover...

If you do drill some holes I would space them about 2-3" apart and start about 2" from the bottom of the pot drill them about every 2-3 inches around the pot then do the same thing about 2-3 inches above those holes. You could either go about half way up the pot or some go all the way to the top with the holes. It will allow more air to the roots and help them grow more aggressively. I am thinking about doing this to my pots before the next grow/flowering. The 2 gallon smart pots (breathable) that I used produced nearly as much yield as the 3.5 gallon standard pots, I think it was because they got more air to the root mass as well as air pruning the roots to stop any rootbound issues.

Maybe also really let the HH dry out more so they are forced to root more to find water.

Sounds like you have it under control though, I bet they bounce back pretty quick.

I watered them heavy and let them dry out really well before last watering.

By the way what is air pruning?

Sorry m8 been absent from here for a while, hhhhm that's strange how far that one is behind ..... Might of got stressed in the transfer of pots..... I think it will burst into life for you though ..... That g13 is looking killer though .... They buds are looking sweet,this is when I really Wish they would invent a scratch and sniff app ......
Keep up the great work m8

When a plant grows roots into a solid sided pot and runs out of room the roots will run in circles searching for more space causing a root bound issue. If the pot is made of fabric or is very porous the roots will hit the air and get stunted at their tips (air pruned) they will then put more energy into branching out along the root toward the center of the pot rather than trying to run around the border of the inside of the pot. It is similar to topping a plant to get more branching etc...

Stevieh said:

this is when I really Wish they would invent a scratch and sniff app ......

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Lol. A billion dollar idea..

Cascadian said:

When a plant grows roots into a solid sided pot and runs out of room the roots will run in circles searching for more space causing a root bound issue. If the pot is made of fabric or is very porous the roots will hit the air and get stunted at their tips (air pruned) they will then put more energy into branching out along the root toward the center of the pot rather than trying to run around the border of the inside of the pot. It is similar to topping a plant to get more branching etc...

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Ah, that makes a ton of sense, lol. I didn't know roots were so reactive to air in that it triggers it to stop linear growth.

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Not too much new to report other than I did still some holes in the HH pots, and am watching them to see if it will help them at all. I did take off quite a bit of lower foliage that was my opinion using more resources than providing. Not much light penetration coming through the canopy to reach it and they were all side branches with multiple bud-sites. They would not have produced any smokeable bud, and I felt that if I didn't prune them, my colas wouldn't produce much either. Hopefully the energy now is a bit more concentrated.

On a personal note, I don't think I'll be smoking for a while. Trying to make some career moves that kind of prohibit me from doing so (despite medical authorization). So that has me kind of bummed out, but we'll see what happens.

Sorry to hear about the forced smoking break, sounds like it might be worth the hassle though.

I am curious how the HH recover/catch up too. And on the upside (if there is one) you will be able to give your buds a nice long cure before you can smoke them.
Should be super smooth!

Cascadian said:

And on the upside (if there is one) you will be able to give your buds a nice long cure before you can smoke them.
Should be super smooth!

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"Nice long" cure is a very generous way of putting it. I might be looking at multiple years before I smoke regularly again :-/ depends on state legislation really.. To me the upside is I don't have to give up gardening. It's almost as therapeutic growing it as it is smoking, it seems.

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To me the upside is I don't have to give up gardening. It's almost as therapeutic growing it as it is smoking, it seems.

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I agree 100%, I also enjoy the growing at least as much as the smoking...

Just read through some of the legislation today, it sounds like you will be ok but there are going to be some big hoops to jump through both for the patients and for the Doctors that prescribe. I am sure many will just opt not to be medical and buy it recreationally due to the hassle (which is what the money grubbing nimrods want in the first place). Sad really, we will see I guess...

Subbed up Canna...dang now I got's another thread to read...lol

Hey jointed, welcome! Thanks for checkin' out my grow

Well I think I know what happened with the HH after all. When talking with a friend, I was thinking out loud about why it happened and it dawned on me that although they were in super soil, the super soil was from the original 3 gallon pots. They were in those pots all through veg. In fact I transplanted them into those pots from solo cups. So what I'm thinking is the nutrients in that super soil were all used up so to speak.

That being said I did add super soil to the 5 gallon pots when I did the final transplant. However as I said before all of the plants do have a slight bit of a airgap in the pots, because of the wider pots they were in previously. Previously I thought the gap was the problem but now I think it may not be the problem itself but it may be causing the roots to not explore the new super soil.

So one might then think... why aren't all the plants doing poorly like the Hollands hope? Well the Hollands hope are two of the larger plants . The G13 and ice plants (highest yielders currently) are smaller in stature and may not have used all of the nutrients from their original super soil. So what I have decided to do is pick up some jacks classic bloom nutrients and will be giving them a half dose feeding when I water them tonight. I'm fairly confident that I will see near immediate results.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The Jacks will be available to the plant faster than supersoil too because it is synthetic/ non-organic. I bet you see them perk up within a few days. 1/2 dose is a good idea too IMO. Looking forward to the next update pics, I bet the Ice and G13 are filling out nicely!

Looking forward to some Pics

Preliminary results are in. All the girls cheered up a bit w with the jacks classic. The HH twins are thickening up on a couple colas as far as I could tell. The other girls seem to be filling out as well. In a few days I should know for sure if this will turn the grow around for them.