2 Plant SCROG,Exodus Cheese,Week 9
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tyke1973
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People ask me if i ever get bored of growing Exodus Cheese,The Answer to that is Simple NO.
I love growing cheese the plant needs very little effort to get great Results,It all ways throws me a lb per plant every time i grow it a long with the Blues only cut i have ,That also does a lb every grow.I am missing the Tent that i have been using the passed couple of Grows with the Mars LED in there,But i think it will be getting used again in next week or so,Because i have a Pineapple Express too many.The only part of the plant i do not use is the stems,And even those are put in a bin and use has Compost later when its all broken down,The Amount of Hash i get from the leaf is all ways a great amount,This goes towards E cig vape oil,The Bud 80% of it is used in Rick Simpson oil ,its what works for me and my wife and the other 20% is left has bud and given to a friend who uses for medical Reasons But he pref to smoke,So i give it him in bud form.This Cheese cut is near 8 year old now,and i see no down side to keeping a plant for this amount of time,In fact the Plants just getting better and better,Hope you enjoy the Photos.I also thought i would put down a list of what i use and when i use it.
Start of veg Has soon has clones have roots
Veg
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Week 1 - 1.1 ec .
Week 2 - 1.2 ec.
Week 3 - 1.3 ec.
Week 4 - 1.4 ec.
Canna a/b i double cube so i know they have a good set of roots,All this is done under a normal House Lamp,And Propagator.
Normally takes 7 days for the clones to root through the small cubes,Then about 3/4 days though next ,but i all ways leave them for
7 days ,But has soon has they break through the bigger cube,that is when i put the Clones under a t5, 6 tube light.Then I put them into Coco ,If i'm in a Rush for clones ,then i do away with Double cubing,And put straight into coco and clay balls after 7 days.
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Flowering
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Week 1 - Canna a/b,1.5 ec
Week 2 - Canna a/b And Big Bud from Advanced Nutrients,1.5 ec
Week 3 - Canna a/b And Big Bud - 1.6 ec
Week 4 - Canna a/b And Big Bud - 1.6 ec
Week 5 - Canna a/b - 1.6 ec
Week 6 - Canna a/b Pk 13/14 Canna - 1.6 ec
Week 7 - Canna a/b - 1.6 ec
Week 8 - Canna a/b - 1.6 ec
Week 9 - Water,for 7 days if Plants look like they are finishing at week 8 then add water then,
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I do not Ph i have not bothered for a good few years no need,If we had bad water then i would,But ec is key to getting good end results,
I have no need for any other Nutrients,i have tried Canna's full range and had pretty much same results,And i have also done grow offs against people i know who use there full line up ,and other Nutrient lines,The only other Nutrient line i would use is Advanced,You can use the same method with Advanced i have done it,with pretty much same Results,But the Nutrients i used was just
Sensi a/b
Bud Blood
Big Bud
Overdrive.
I use the same EC settings with every strain i have grown and there is never no difference,I flower at 2 ft tall then start filling the table rather than doing this during veg like some growers i know,It saves double training.Table size is 9 ft long x 6 ft wide,i am going to make a larger table next grow one that fills the full room there is a ft space all way round the table so may has well use this and just flower a little larger,2 1./2 ft,the bottoms come in for hash and oil ,so that does not bother me,My main Colas are all ways rock solid,But i never count the fluffy stuff in end weights it goes straight into ice water on the day i take plants down and hash is made that day,while rest is drying.
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TYKE1973 Peace
I love growing cheese the plant needs very little effort to get great Results,It all ways throws me a lb per plant every time i grow it a long with the Blues only cut i have ,That also does a lb every grow.I am missing the Tent that i have been using the passed couple of Grows with the Mars LED in there,But i think it will be getting used again in next week or so,Because i have a Pineapple Express too many.The only part of the plant i do not use is the stems,And even those are put in a bin and use has Compost later when its all broken down,The Amount of Hash i get from the leaf is all ways a great amount,This goes towards E cig vape oil,The Bud 80% of it is used in Rick Simpson oil ,its what works for me and my wife and the other 20% is left has bud and given to a friend who uses for medical Reasons But he pref to smoke,So i give it him in bud form.This Cheese cut is near 8 year old now,and i see no down side to keeping a plant for this amount of time,In fact the Plants just getting better and better,Hope you enjoy the Photos.I also thought i would put down a list of what i use and when i use it.
Start of veg Has soon has clones have roots
Veg
-----
Week 1 - 1.1 ec .
Week 2 - 1.2 ec.
Week 3 - 1.3 ec.
Week 4 - 1.4 ec.
Canna a/b i double cube so i know they have a good set of roots,All this is done under a normal House Lamp,And Propagator.
Normally takes 7 days for the clones to root through the small cubes,Then about 3/4 days though next ,but i all ways leave them for
7 days ,But has soon has they break through the bigger cube,that is when i put the Clones under a t5, 6 tube light.Then I put them into Coco ,If i'm in a Rush for clones ,then i do away with Double cubing,And put straight into coco and clay balls after 7 days.
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Flowering
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Week 1 - Canna a/b,1.5 ec
Week 2 - Canna a/b And Big Bud from Advanced Nutrients,1.5 ec
Week 3 - Canna a/b And Big Bud - 1.6 ec
Week 4 - Canna a/b And Big Bud - 1.6 ec
Week 5 - Canna a/b - 1.6 ec
Week 6 - Canna a/b Pk 13/14 Canna - 1.6 ec
Week 7 - Canna a/b - 1.6 ec
Week 8 - Canna a/b - 1.6 ec
Week 9 - Water,for 7 days if Plants look like they are finishing at week 8 then add water then,
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I do not Ph i have not bothered for a good few years no need,If we had bad water then i would,But ec is key to getting good end results,
I have no need for any other Nutrients,i have tried Canna's full range and had pretty much same results,And i have also done grow offs against people i know who use there full line up ,and other Nutrient lines,The only other Nutrient line i would use is Advanced,You can use the same method with Advanced i have done it,with pretty much same Results,But the Nutrients i used was just
Sensi a/b
Bud Blood
Big Bud
Overdrive.
I use the same EC settings with every strain i have grown and there is never no difference,I flower at 2 ft tall then start filling the table rather than doing this during veg like some growers i know,It saves double training.Table size is 9 ft long x 6 ft wide,i am going to make a larger table next grow one that fills the full room there is a ft space all way round the table so may has well use this and just flower a little larger,2 1./2 ft,the bottoms come in for hash and oil ,so that does not bother me,My main Colas are all ways rock solid,But i never count the fluffy stuff in end weights it goes straight into ice water on the day i take plants down and hash is made that day,while rest is drying.
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TYKE1973 Peace
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The Yorkshireman
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EC doesn't mean shit without proper PH as the plants can't uptake nutes without being in the proper PH range.
And PH changes throughout the grow in response to the uptake of Nitrogen ions.
EC is not the key to getting good results, proper PH is.
Your EC is way too high for growing healthy Exo that's why your leaves are burned to fuck, dark green through massive Nitrogen over fert and crispy dry, your PH is probably too low which is why it's locked out magnesium showing deficiency's.
There's absolutely no need for EC at even 1.0 in veg let alone the ludicrous 1.4 at only 4 weeks, Exo is healthy and productive at around 0.7 EC in veg given near ideal nutrient ratios and PH.
Burn and deficiency's in the same plants says you're doing something wrong.
Also Exo is around an 11-12 week strain to finish fully, if kept healthy and in the proper ranges the colas go into a second swell at about week 8 packing on a lot more size and doesn't finish till around week 10.
I pull Exo and Psychosis at 10 weeks ish, it's not remotely done properly at week 8 unless it isn't healthy, has lockouts and just dies off. Let alone when you're giving it just plain water for the last couple of weeks essentially depriving your plants of nutrients at the most critical time causing even more problems.
If you've been growing Exo for 8 years without being able to get it dialed in and that poor example is what you've got to show for your time then you should go back to the basics and learn to read your plants signs and symptoms.
I run Canna's entire mono range along with liquid Potassium Silicate and Magnesium Sulphate salts against my own custom feeding regime's (all strains don't take the same feed regimes at all, anybody who thinks so has a lot to learn) and I'll have a grow off with you any time you like because I can blow that grow out of the water in my sleep.
This is what a tent full of relatively healthy Exo looks like at 4 weeks in flower, with an EC nowhere near yours but then I try to pay attention to PH.
(16 Exo, 1 Livers/Blues, 1 Gorilla Glue #4)
Left side.
Right side.
Even then these are far from spot on, the PH is too low causing low level Calcium and Magnesium deficiency's and they got a little too much Nitrogen last week causing the larger fan leaves to start to curl under slightly.
And here's a Gorilla Glue #4....
Which ideally doesn't take the same regime as the Exo, it can take a higher EC in general before it shows leaf tip burn, doesn't claw under the same amount of Nitrogen as Exo and doesn't show Cal/Mag defs at the same PH as the Exo.
I'll come back in a few weeks and show you the difference between my Exo and yours at the same point if you like, it'll be day/night difference.
And PH changes throughout the grow in response to the uptake of Nitrogen ions.
EC is not the key to getting good results, proper PH is.
Your EC is way too high for growing healthy Exo that's why your leaves are burned to fuck, dark green through massive Nitrogen over fert and crispy dry, your PH is probably too low which is why it's locked out magnesium showing deficiency's.
There's absolutely no need for EC at even 1.0 in veg let alone the ludicrous 1.4 at only 4 weeks, Exo is healthy and productive at around 0.7 EC in veg given near ideal nutrient ratios and PH.
Burn and deficiency's in the same plants says you're doing something wrong.
Also Exo is around an 11-12 week strain to finish fully, if kept healthy and in the proper ranges the colas go into a second swell at about week 8 packing on a lot more size and doesn't finish till around week 10.
I pull Exo and Psychosis at 10 weeks ish, it's not remotely done properly at week 8 unless it isn't healthy, has lockouts and just dies off. Let alone when you're giving it just plain water for the last couple of weeks essentially depriving your plants of nutrients at the most critical time causing even more problems.
If you've been growing Exo for 8 years without being able to get it dialed in and that poor example is what you've got to show for your time then you should go back to the basics and learn to read your plants signs and symptoms.
I run Canna's entire mono range along with liquid Potassium Silicate and Magnesium Sulphate salts against my own custom feeding regime's (all strains don't take the same feed regimes at all, anybody who thinks so has a lot to learn) and I'll have a grow off with you any time you like because I can blow that grow out of the water in my sleep.
This is what a tent full of relatively healthy Exo looks like at 4 weeks in flower, with an EC nowhere near yours but then I try to pay attention to PH.
(16 Exo, 1 Livers/Blues, 1 Gorilla Glue #4)
Left side.
Right side.
Even then these are far from spot on, the PH is too low causing low level Calcium and Magnesium deficiency's and they got a little too much Nitrogen last week causing the larger fan leaves to start to curl under slightly.
And here's a Gorilla Glue #4....
Which ideally doesn't take the same regime as the Exo, it can take a higher EC in general before it shows leaf tip burn, doesn't claw under the same amount of Nitrogen as Exo and doesn't show Cal/Mag defs at the same PH as the Exo.
I'll come back in a few weeks and show you the difference between my Exo and yours at the same point if you like, it'll be day/night difference.
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tyke1973
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I have not bothered ph'ing in a very long time my results speak for them selfs ,love the im pretty sure his pictures are faked lol ,check my journals out been doing this a while.if you look at my journal ,you will see the next set of cheese along with two pineapple express i have for a tent grow im doing
The Yorkshireman
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tyke1973
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There done,I aint even gonna go down a road of arguing with ya dude,I grow for meds not for any thing else,You seem bitter ,Must be a different Cheese to mine mine make me calm and chilled.
The Yorkshireman
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Yeah I do too, it's funny as fuck.
It's because I rock plants like these (among other choice specimens) .....
Dog Kush S1.
Jack Frost A.
Jack Frost B.
(Main cola bigger than 3 litres)
The Yorkshireman
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Time has no correlation with knowledge and producing quality.
The Yorkshireman
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They're not done, they're burned and dead.
"Grow for meds" is an illogical statement, your meds would be far superior given healthier and better quality plants.
Bitter? lol, I've nothing to be bitter about I just say it how it is.
The Yorkshireman
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I'm not looking for an argument mate, it's taken wrong.
I just called it what it is and explained why it is what it is.
The pictures clearly speak for themselves, they're over fed, burned up and knackered for a reason.
Why am I automatically looking for an argument or somehow bitter for pointing these things out? It's called constructive criticism, but it seems too many folk are just looking for confirmation rather than growing better plants. So who really has issues? lol
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tyke1973
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Thank you bro Respect,No dead yellow leafs are smoked by the way they go in the compost heap
The Yorkshireman
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ive grown and smoked my fair share of exo, bloody love the strain tbh, my grows where never half as good any of the pics in this thread tho yours or ymans, its such a versatile strain you can put very little effort in if thats how you grow and still end up with amazing cheesy goodness.
most of mine i would chop at 8wk after using ghe ripen from 6wk, i no its not the right way or best but i would always end up with solid nugs and pure cheesey flavour, imo its best at 9wk not saying it carnt go longer i.e 10/11 but all the exo i have tasted from many a fellow grower that have gone the 10/11 wks just seems like some of that intense cheese flavour is lost at 10/11 just imo anyway.
most of mine i would chop at 8wk after using ghe ripen from 6wk, i no its not the right way or best but i would always end up with solid nugs and pure cheesey flavour, imo its best at 9wk not saying it carnt go longer i.e 10/11 but all the exo i have tasted from many a fellow grower that have gone the 10/11 wks just seems like some of that intense cheese flavour is lost at 10/11 just imo anyway.
The Yorkshireman
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Dude I've seen grows of yours a million times healthier than that.
fucking el mate your on one 2night, its a few dead leaves?! id chew me arm off for a bud like that right now lol aint had a smoke in near 80days.
i had more than me fair share of yellow leaves at the end of grows what with nowt but ripen the last 2wks lolol your into the science i thought a lack of nitrogen at the end brought out flavours? cause may not as got the greatest yields but never a word of complaint about the flavour on any exo i grew.
tyke1973
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The Yorkshireman
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No it's bollocks mate.
Lacking anything at the end, especially when washing all the nutes out of the medium with just plain water causes the plant to drop all it's stored nutes back into the growing medium causing deficiency's.
Flavours are made in the cure and through not over feeding in the first place.
Gradual lowering of EC near the end is what's needed, not plain water.