2000w Purple Kush 106 Plant Ebb and Flow SOG

What will I yield?

  • 1 - 2 lbs

    Votes: 57 13.2%
  • 2 - 3 lbs

    Votes: 121 28.1%
  • 3 -4 lbs

    Votes: 107 24.8%
  • 4 or more lbs

    Votes: 146 33.9%

  • Total voters
    431

DubsFan

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Do you flood when lights out ? How long are your floods 15 or 30 min.
Not to answer for him but I have a similar grow. Less plants but same medium and power.

Generally speaking you are never going to flood or water any medium during your dark period.

Rockwool is historically flooded every 2 hours for 10 min or every 3 hours for 15 min. My plants didn't like either so I went with one less watering per day and divided the time between waterings almost evenly. My last watering is 1 hour before lights out.
 

tea tree

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wow, I am boggled you can get that many floods into rockwool. The 4x4 blocks i am using in three weeks of veg can only take it once a day. I am training them slowly to grow into hydroton blocks and are almost at the once every two hours of hydroton. If I do more than one a day in rockwool, even in flower I get slower growth. BORING! I love the rockwool tho, I have good luck. I follow Grodans advice, when they need it. The grodan website is handy and well put together for info.

Great grow. In my dreams I am in yer footstpes, i wanted a 64 plant sog so bad but have elected for four trees, staying legal. Here is to vicariously dude. Damn I just trimmed a sogged bud and it was so easy. Two seconds. Lucky.
 

DubsFan

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wow, I am boggled you can get that many floods into rockwool. The 4x4 blocks i am using in three weeks of veg can only take it once a day. I am training them slowly to grow into hydroton blocks and are almost at the once every two hours of hydroton. If I do more than one a day in rockwool, even in flower I get slower growth. BORING! I love the rockwool tho, I have good luck. I follow Grodans advice, when they need it. The grodan website is handy and well put together for info.

Great grow. In my dreams I am in yer footstpes, i wanted a 64 plant sog so bad but have elected for four trees, staying legal. Here is to vicariously dude. Damn I just trimmed a sogged bud and it was so easy. Two seconds. Lucky.
That's only because you are in those small blocks. You can do less while they're vegging. You should have roots out the bottom in two weeks. Then you stack them on slabs or coco mats.

Mine coulndn't handle that much water either.

My theory is water soil as little as possible and water RW as much as possible. Technically I can get away with watering RW every other day.
 

rbahadosingh

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Great set up man! love the coco mat idea.

How deep from the bottom of the tray do you flood?

I found it hard to avoid overwatering issues with rockwool, especially with clones.
i flood the about 2" from the top of the cubes. not exactly how high that is from the bottom. rockwool has great drainage. so when ontop of the coco mat it drains excellently. so its hard to overwater. when sitting flat on a tray obviously it wont drain as well as on top of a coco mat. i havent had any overwatering issues. i tried rockwool with clones before but it was tricky to get the rockwool perfect so now i just use root riot cubes. they come pre moistened and have the perfect air to water ratio. they are by far the best media to clone with.

Do you flood when lights out ? How long are your floods 15 or 30 min.
no i do not flood when lights out. my first flood is 15min. the next 3 floods are 10min.
 

nutfoot

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Hey sick setup, I love how uniform your plants look in the tables. I just scanned through quickly, but have you harvested yet? weight? Also how long did vegetate them for?

I have a very similar 2000 watt, 44 plant, 4x8 table, SOG. You can check it here if you want. We were rushed to get plants growin in the table so we didnt get as many clones from our mothers as we hoped, but next cycle we want to do a LOT more, After seeing SeeMoreBuds have 300 plants in a 4x6 space under 2400watts for 5.5 pounds is my inspiration heh.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/275022-2000-watt-ebb-flow-himalayan.html
 

Joker209

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Hey sick setup, I love how uniform your plants look in the tables. I just scanned through quickly, but have you harvested yet? weight? Also how long did vegetate them for?

I have a very similar 2000 watt, 44 plant, 4x8 table, SOG. You can check it here if you want. We were rushed to get plants growin in the table so we didnt get as many clones from our mothers as we hoped, but next cycle we want to do a LOT more, After seeing SeeMoreBuds have 300 plants in a 4x6 space under 2400watts for 5.5 pounds is my inspiration heh.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/275022-2000-watt-ebb-flow-himalayan.html
If the word I hear is to be correct, SeeMoreBuds is Garden Known on RollItUp, but this is just what I have read.
 

rbahadosingh

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Hey sick setup, I love how uniform your plants look in the tables. I just scanned through quickly, but have you harvested yet? weight? Also how long did vegetate them for?

I have a very similar 2000 watt, 44 plant, 4x8 table, SOG. You can check it here if you want. We were rushed to get plants growin in the table so we didnt get as many clones from our mothers as we hoped, but next cycle we want to do a LOT more, After seeing SeeMoreBuds have 300 plants in a 4x6 space under 2400watts for 5.5 pounds is my inspiration heh.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/275022-2000-watt-ebb-flow-himalayan.html
thanks. i havent harvested yet. i vegged for 18 days. harvest is come up pretty soon. i i will harvest at 56-60 days. somewhere in that window. today is day 39 of flower.
 

Joker209

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thanks. i havent harvested yet. i vegged for 18 days. harvest is come up pretty soon. i i will harvest at 56-60 days. somewhere in that window. today is day 39 of flower.
Sounds far out haha no I'm just kidding. I love the look of the plants. Looking good man keep up the good work
 

DubsFan

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Sounds far out haha no I'm just kidding. I love the look of the plants. Looking good man keep up the good work
My grow will be a great examply of what a standard grow produces versus a SOG like this one. I should have 12 plants but only have 10 and this is my first hydro grow...but I don't think I'm gonna hit 2p's.

No question my next grow is SOG with a high plant count.

My buddies always hit 3 to 3.5p's with 12 plants and it's great herb. But the main cola produces the highest quality nugs IMO. While they hit a good weight a lot of the nugs are just ok...their colas are NICE but it would be great to have 4 or 5p's of cola's.

We're on the same time table too dude. I flipped mine on Nov 24th. Thought it would be a 10week strain but in the last few days they went nuts on me and look like a 60 dayer...

Good luck.
 

Joker209

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I just made an aeroponic setup with a 32gallon tote from walmart and got a 20-60 gallon dual output air pump and will be filling the bottom with some air tubes that will be covered in holes and then put some fish tank rocks on top of the hoses to hold them down and drilled 20 holes in the lid. I plan on putting 20 clippings in and running 18/6 with 24/7 air and fill the water up to the bottom of the pots which I crafted out of some plastic cups and a soidering iron and it all looks great. My plan is to place 10 of those into a cellar and place 4 1000w hps as well as hanging 4 600w hps and a couple air conditioners that are also dehumidifiers. I want to hook up a nice CO2 set up and keep my room at the right 1500ppm. Take and hook up 2 1200cfm inline fans hooked to some 6-8" ducting hooked to the hoods of the lights and exhaust into my house so I only get heat and no worries about the smell. A basic no in no out room should work great for my grow. I was thinking though with that kind of set up how hard would it be to keep up on the res maintenance?
 

rbahadosingh

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i have ruled out light bleaching for the reason the plants right under the light are yellowing like that... im not sure what is causing it. im trying to figure it out right now.... i think its some kind of deficiency... not sure exactly. doing some research trying to figure it out....... any opinnions on what it could be?
 

bran1981

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when i first put them in the rockwool i flooded every 5 days or so. right now im flooding once a day when the lights come on. after another week ill be flooding twice a day and when they are in full flower and get bigger ill flood 3 to 4 times a day. i use 8ml/gal of flora micro and 16ml/gal of flora bloom the whole way through. the ec is 1.6 - 1.8. after week 3 ill add big bud. that will take the ec to 2.0 - 2.2. i use a bluelab truncheon to measure my nutrient strength. ppm can be converted using the 500 or 700 scale. i dont know what scale your using...

I have a ? I have been reading everything your doing here and do you ever use flora grow in the cycle or no? I'm guessing the bloom has enough N in it to not have any issues? By the way very nice grow you have going.
 

rbahadosingh

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when i first put them in the rockwool i flooded every 5 days or so. right now im flooding once a day when the lights come on. after another week ill be flooding twice a day and when they are in full flower and get bigger ill flood 3 to 4 times a day. i use 8ml/gal of flora micro and 16ml/gal of flora bloom the whole way through. the ec is 1.6 - 1.8. after week 3 ill add big bud. that will take the ec to 2.0 - 2.2. i use a bluelab truncheon to measure my nutrient strength. ppm can be converted using the 500 or 700 scale. i dont know what scale your using...

I have a ? I have been reading everything your doing here and do you ever use flora grow in the cycle or no? I'm guessing the bloom has enough N in it to not have any issues? By the way very nice grow you have going.
no i dont use flora grow. only flora micro and flora bloom. and thanks. its getting there. will be done pretty soon.
 

srryan2

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what do yall thank about having 32 plants in a 2 foot wide by 7 foot long space with 2 600's using areo tubs? i could have 2 of these setups in my flower room. so that would give me 64 plants altogether. btw i will be taking large clones 8-10" tall.
 

Bob Smith

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i have ruled out light bleaching for the reason the plants right under the light are yellowing like that... im not sure what is causing it. im trying to figure it out right now.... i think its some kind of deficiency... not sure exactly. doing some research trying to figure it out....... any opinnions on what it could be?
More pics would be good, but common sense tells me it's light bleaching - the only difference among the plants that are yellow vs. the ones that are green is their position relative to the lights, no?

A nute issue would be clear in all plants, so unless there's something else that the yellowing plants all have in common that the "green" plants don't, the most likely issue is light bleaching.

As an aside, to all of the people trying to hijack the thread with questions not relative to Rbaha's grow - please just start your own threads.

It's rude and disrespectful to hijack someone else's thread.
 

rbahadosingh

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More pics would be good, but common sense tells me it's light bleaching - the only difference among the plants that are yellow vs. the ones that are green is their position relative to the lights, no?

A nute issue would be clear in all plants, so unless there's something else that the yellowing plants all have in common that the "green" plants don't, the most likely issue is light bleaching.

As an aside, to all of the people trying to hijack the thread with questions not relative to Rbaha's grow - please just start your own threads.

It's rude and disrespectful to hijack someone else's thread.
yeah bob i thought that too but its not the uppermost leaves that are yellowing. there are leaves above those that are green as ever. its only the fan leaves. and some of them are even getting brown edges now. and to my understanding light bleaching would effect everything on the upper part of the plant buds and the leaves. i dont know maybe im wrong. when i looked in my grow bible it said it could be a potash deficiency maybe???
 

DubsFan

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yeah bob i thought that too but its not the uppermost leaves that are yellowing. there are leaves above those that are green as ever. its only the fan leaves. and some of them are even getting brown edges now. and to my understanding light bleaching would effect everything on the upper part of the plant buds and the leaves. i dont know maybe im wrong. when i looked in my grow bible it said it could be a potash deficiency maybe???
After stripping your water with RO, Generally speaking after feeding NPK the only major supplement you would need is some cal mag. I use a 50% dose. This late into flower you may need more than what your nutes have to offer.
 

Bob Smith

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yeah bob i thought that too but its not the uppermost leaves that are yellowing. there are leaves above those that are green as ever. its only the fan leaves. and some of them are even getting brown edges now. and to my understanding light bleaching would effect everything on the upper part of the plant buds and the leaves. i dont know maybe im wrong. when i looked in my grow bible it said it could be a potash deficiency maybe???
My explanation to that would be that the light bleaching occurred earlier before the plants could handle it, and since you've now moved the light(s) up, the layer that was effected has since been covered by newer growth.

Honestly, based on the facts available to us, it's really the only thing that makes sense - a nute issue would effect all the plants.
 

wonderblunder

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word ^^

if you want a DIY just google ebb & flow how to, I know there are youtube videos. the biggest problem with that is, where would you find a plastic like 4'x4'x12" table besides a hydro store? if you can be creative with the table you can use anything just about.

for 1 table all you need is:
flood table
reservoir
pump
flood/drain fittings
grounded timer
black tubing *cheap & easy to work with*
plastic pots/net cups/rockwool & w/e your prefered medium
of course you need a ph/ppm meter

when you buy the stuff from a hydro store it was ment to hold water with out leaks and can support the weight of the water + the plants, this goes for both res and table. they are fairly expensive though, you pay the price for something that will just work with out modification.

GL if you decide to go that route in the future

the PK looks super yummy rbahadosingh
There are 300 gallon square containers used for shipping liquids, that come out to be 4x4, and however deep you want! They even give them away free if you know where to look! OregonMeds built some using this method......
 

rbahadosingh

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chop day is coming up soon. ill take some pictures today so you all can see how they are coming along. They are swelling up quite nicely and are frosty as ever....
 
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