2014 Southern California Outdoor

Big spliff93

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Figured I'd share my grow with you guys. I started these from seed in mid April & had them outside by By late may.
Strains
TGA Chernobyl
BOG Blue Kush
BOG Sour Bubble
So Cal Genetics Cherry Bomb

Anyways they just started to show sex I ended up with 14 Females & 4 I've yet to identify out of 28 seeds that sprouted.

The plants are in 7 gallon grow bags. I plan to transplant them into supersoil I got cooking. Not sure if in the ground or in a bigger grow bag or smart pot.

I'm using Black Gold Potting soil with a little coco and perlite mixed in. Also mixed in a little blood meal & cal mag.

I'll be posting more pics soon. Would love any feedback, comments, likes or rep.
 
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Garden Boss

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No rep for you! (or anyone)

That Chernobyl is a huge bitch :)
If you grow in ground dig at least a 2x2x2 hole and line with double layer chicken wire or hardwire mesh to prevent gophers
If you decide smart pot I would go with 45 gallon or larger Smart pots.
Good luck on your grow.
 

Big spliff93

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No rep for you! (or anyone)

That Chernobyl is a huge bitch :)
If you grow in ground dig at least a 2x2x2 hole and line with double layer chicken wire or hardwire mesh to prevent gophers
If you decide smart pot I would go with 45 gallon or larger Smart pots.
Good luck on your grow.
Thanks man I've heard the stretch on it is pretty impressive. I would love to put it in a 45 gallon smart pot. But don't have the funds for all that soil. Was thinking about doing 15 gallon Fabric pots. Chernobyl definitely my fastest growing strain. Thanks man I'm going to need it.
 

Garden Boss

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Thanks man I've heard the stretch on it is pretty impressive. I would love to put it in a 45 gallon smart pot. But don't have the funds for all that soil. Was thinking about doing 15 gallon Fabric pots. Chernobyl definitely my fastest growing strain. Thanks man I'm going to need it.
Going bigger doesn't have to be expensive.You can find good deals on craigslist for used smart pots and local nursery potting soils start around $30/yd. I wasted a lot of money on bagged soil, before I started ordering truckloads. Whatever you choose, you already have a sweet strain line up and the look happy (:
 

Big spliff93

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Going bigger doesn't have to be expensive.You can find good deals on craigslist for used smart pots and local nursery potting soils start around $30/yd. I wasted a lot of money on bagged soil, before I started ordering truckloads. Whatever you choose, you already have a sweet strain line up and the look happy (:
I should look into the nursery potting soils. Never really shopped for soil at a nursery, maybe i should start. I get most of everything from the hydro store. Almost every bagged soil I've tried has been packed with bugs too. So its getting kinda annoying.
& Thanks again. The Rep Button would be useful right about now. Lol
 

FresnoFarmer

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Hydro stores are okay for certain things but a rip off for most things. Nursery people are usually down-to-earth people. More-so than alot of jackass hydro shop guys. Treat the soil before you plant in it if you can. BTI for fungus gnats and Neem Cake for other pests.
 

Garden Boss

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It's surprising how many people sell good potting soil by the yard in my area. Just google Landscape Materials with the name of your town, call up each of the closer ones and price check, a few extra calls can save you money :) , and you can often find soil by the yard on craigslist also.
 

Big spliff93

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Hydro stores are okay for certain things but a rip off for most things. Nursery people are usually down-to-earth people. More-so than alot of jackass hydro shop guys. Treat the soil before you plant in it if you can. BTI for fungus gnats and Neem Cake for other pests.
Whats BTI? I have azamax which I think is made with neem oil. Whats the difference between neem cake and neem oil?
 

Big spliff93

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It's surprising how many people sell good potting soil by the yard in my area. Just google Landscape Materials with the name of your town, call up each of the closer ones and price check, a few extra calls can save you money :) , and you can often find soil by the yard on craigslist also.
Found a couple soil mixes on Craigslist omri listed. Probably going to try it next cyclw
 

FresnoFarmer

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Whats BTI? I have azamax which I think is made with neem oil. Whats the difference between neem cake and neem oil?
Bti is a bacteria strain that is in mosquito dunks, I here mixing it in the soil helps get rid of fungus gnats.

Copy and paste from lumperdawgz from GC

In this instance, the term cake and meal are interchangeable. Neem seed cake/meal is the dried residue after the oil has been pressed from the seeds.

All parts of the neem tree contain the agent Azadiractin (among 60+ others equally important) that provides a defense against molds, nematodes, leaf-eating insects, et al. This includes the leaves, bark, seeds, roots, branches, etc.

The pressing does not remove all of the oil or the active agents. The Azadiractin level of the meal is generally about 1/3 - 1/2 of the PPM level of the oil that was pressed, i.e. if the neem oil tests out at 1500 PPM for Azadiractin then you could figure that the meal/cake would come in at 500 PPM - 750 PPM.

The cake is helpful in any type of organic growing environment. It has a solid NPK profile (if you're one of those who subscribes to that paradigm), a complete micro-nutrient component as well as trace elements, phytohormones (Abscisic acid, Auxins, Cytokinins, Ethylene, Gibberellins) Vitamin C, citric acid, saponin, et al. providing improved conditions for the nitrification process, preventing root rot and other anaerobic-related problems like root aphids, gnats, etc.

The neem seed cake also triggers a plant's defenses through a number of agents it contains resulting in systemic defense against the invasive powdery mildew issues.

The meal/cake can also be used to make an effective tea during those times of the grow/flower cycle where using the neem oil may not be the best option. 1/2 cup of neem seed meal/cake and 1/4 cup of kelp meal along with 1 tsp. of liquid silica into 5 gallons of water and then bubbled/brewed for 18 - 24 hours. This can be used to irrigate the plants as well as applying as a foliar spray.

I'd recommend the neem & karanja seed meals from NeemResource.com - it's organic. It's Fair trade. It's Inexpensive. It's Effective. And the woman who heads this organization is the most informed individual I've ever talked with on the subject of neem tree products in general.

And her products are from India. There's a lot of neem products coming in from China and Africa. That's not necessarily a bad thing. However, the neem tree industry in India goes back several centuries. The tree is part of the worship of several incarnations of the Godhead including Krishna, Ganesha, Vishnu, Shiva, et al. and it's a part of the culture in the production regions and the industry is tightly controlled by the Parker India Group.

For me I consider neem cake as important as my other 'must have' for gardening, i.e. kelp meal, alfalfa meal and rock dusts.
 

Big spliff93

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Bti is a bacteria strain that is in mosquito dunks, I here mixing it in the soil helps get rid of fungus gnats.

Copy and paste from lumperdawgz from GC

In this instance, the term cake and meal are interchangeable. Neem seed cake/meal is the dried residue after the oil has been pressed from the seeds.

All parts of the neem tree contain the agent Azadiractin (among 60+ others equally important) that provides a defense against molds, nematodes, leaf-eating insects, et al. This includes the leaves, bark, seeds, roots, branches, etc.

The pressing does not remove all of the oil or the active agents. The Azadiractin level of the meal is generally about 1/3 - 1/2 of the PPM level of the oil that was pressed, i.e. if the neem oil tests out at 1500 PPM for Azadiractin then you could figure that the meal/cake would come in at 500 PPM - 750 PPM.

The cake is helpful in any type of organic growing environment. It has a solid NPK profile (if you're one of those who subscribes to that paradigm), a complete micro-nutrient component as well as trace elements, phytohormones (Abscisic acid, Auxins, Cytokinins, Ethylene, Gibberellins) Vitamin C, citric acid, saponin, et al. providing improved conditions for the nitrification process, preventing root rot and other anaerobic-related problems like root aphids, gnats, etc.

The neem seed cake also triggers a plant's defenses through a number of agents it contains resulting in systemic defense against the invasive powdery mildew issues.

The meal/cake can also be used to make an effective tea during those times of the grow/flower cycle where using the neem oil may not be the best option. 1/2 cup of neem seed meal/cake and 1/4 cup of kelp meal along with 1 tsp. of liquid silica into 5 gallons of water and then bubbled/brewed for 18 - 24 hours. This can be used to irrigate the plants as well as applying as a foliar spray.

I'd recommend the neem & karanja seed meals from NeemResource.com - it's organic. It's Fair trade. It's Inexpensive. It's Effective. And the woman who heads this organization is the most informed individual I've ever talked with on the subject of neem tree products in general.

And her products are from India. There's a lot of neem products coming in from China and Africa. That's not necessarily a bad thing. However, the neem tree industry in India goes back several centuries. The tree is part of the worship of several incarnations of the Godhead including Krishna, Ganesha, Vishnu, Shiva, et al. and it's a part of the culture in the production regions and the industry is tightly controlled by the Parker India Group.

For me I consider neem cake as important as my other 'must have' for gardening, i.e. kelp meal, alfalfa meal and rock dusts.
Wo! good info. I've never brewed any teas before probably should give it a try.
Could you just mix a cup per cf into the soil?
 

Big spliff93

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So some of my plants are already flowering!! :???: Bummer. So what I'm going to do is put them in the in the canyon thats part of the property I live on. And try to keep the rest in veg with artificial light to get a bigger harvest anyways. Here I go.
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FresnoFarmer

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Me too. I wanted to be able to control mine to a certain size. the week I lost on reveg time will effect that now I'm sure.
 
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