250w HPS Club And Help Guide

giggles26

giggles26

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Sr. Verde said:
I'm using "Victory Brand Superior Garden Mix" for the first time. I used to use Fox Farms Ocean Forest religiously but I'm starting to move on. FFOF is good, it's just not perfect. Great for the $$ though, if your using a LOT.

So now I have some Pineapple Express getting started in the Victory Soil. I added kelp meal, alphalpha meal, and rock phosphate to my victory soil. I have some headbands finishing in the FFOF.

Also for the record I mix both until it's like 40-50% perlite. I like perlite.
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Perlite is my friend :D.

I use to do a mix of FFOF with part happy frog and throw in some lime and perlite :D

Lately I've thrown some blood and bone meal and 3 bat guanos into the mix and I must say the girls are loving it.
 
giggles26

giggles26

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Hettyman said:
I hear a lot of good reports about pineapple express. Is it a sat? Is is the flavour that's the appeal? or the high? or both?
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I've grown it. I do have to say that g13 is the best breeder of it hands down IMHO. The flavour is very sweet and powerful and the high is great to. I would deff grow it again. I've got a few F1's of it somewhere. Might have to grow them again.
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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That reminds me, I've been meaning to ask you...HOw much lime to put in my soil mix? My hydro shop doesn't store it, and gardening shops always look at me funny, but popped into a hardware store for something else , and stumbled across a 1kg bag of "gardening lime". I use Biobizz Light mix, and All Mix, sometimes blended together, but they all seem Mg deficient. I also throw a nice load of perlite too, and used to add some clay pebbles in the bottom couple of inches, but found them an unnecessary cost and effort in my 6-7 litre finishing pots
 
giggles26

giggles26

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Hettyman said:
That reminds me, I've been meaning to ask you...HOw much lime to put in my soil mix? My hydro shop doesn't store it, and gardening shops always look at me funny, but popped into a hardware store for something else , and stumbled across a 1kg bag of "gardening lime". I use Biobizz Light mix, and All Mix, sometimes blended together, but they all seem Mg deficient. I also throw a nice load of perlite too, and used to add some clay pebbles in the bottom couple of inches, but found them an unnecessary cost and effort in my 6-7 litre finishing pots
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I do 2tbsp per gallon of soil. I put a bottom layer of soil in break up all clumps and then add some lime and mix for 2-3 minutes, then I do another layer and do the same thing and I repeat this until I get to my desired level.

This way it is nice ratio all throughout my soil.
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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Hettyman said:
I hear a lot of good reports about pineapple express. Is it a sat? Is is the flavour that's the appeal? or the high? or both?
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I did this journal on the G13 PE. 400w HPS. Check it out. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/515810-growlab-80-g13-pineapple-express.html




Took 65 days. I'd say more of a hybrid. The stuff I grew was pretty balanced across the board. Great high, great flavor, great smell, and great look. It's the type of stuff you can smoke on for weeks and not get tired of it. I'd compare it to maui wowie, except the PE smells more fruity/islandy.. Where the maui has only that rubbery smell, this has only initial hints of rubber. The high is also very smiliar to the maui wowie that I had. Makes you feel like your vegged out on the beach. The sun seems a little warmer, music is enhanced, food tastes great, but all around it's a very relaxing experience.

giggles26 said:
Perlite is my friend :D.

I use to do a mix of FFOF with part happy frog and throw in some lime and perlite :D

Lately I've thrown some blood and bone meal and 3 bat guanos into the mix and I must say the girls are loving it.
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Definitely going to have to get into the bat shit and bone meal. I've been feeding liquid guano and stuff with big bloom. Though I'm trying to phase out the fox farms slowly..

giggles26 said:
I've grown it. I do have to say that g13 is the best breeder of it hands down IMHO. The flavour is very sweet and powerful and the high is great to. I would deff grow it again. I've got a few F1's of it somewhere. Might have to grow them again.
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Definitely. G13 Pineapple Express is the original. Not from the movie, duh, but in real world of breeders.

It's funny when people don't know the strain pineapple express actually exists, and they think I'm making it up. It's funny because those people have usually never smoked some real good home grown, so they aren't expecting "pineapple express" to be anything significant.
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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I find mixing the soil really enjoyable almost theraputic, and use basically that method with what ever i'm mixing. At one point I was mixing 2 types of soil, perlite, clay pebbles and worm-castings, in a large cake mixing bowl...needed to fill it and mix twice for every 7 gallon pot....many a morning was lost to repotting :)
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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I hate repotting. It destroys my already shitty back. Maybe I should get a table for it instead of crouching over.

But hey if you want to come over and re pot my plants in the future your more than welcome :).
 
giggles26

giggles26

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Do you guys want a good recipe that will grow the best plants you have ever grown?

All I ever do is water nowadays :D
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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Sr. Verde said:
The sun seems a little warmer, music is enhanced, food tastes great, but all around it's a very relaxing experience.

It's funny when people don't know the strain pineapple express actually exists, and they think I'm making it up. It's funny because those people have usually never smoked some real good home grown, so they aren't expecting "pineapple express" to be anything significant.
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That's exactly what got me into smoking weed in the first place, after I finish this grow and move in a few months, recon that will be my next strain.

Also, that's how to make full use a smaller tent...bravo!!!
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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Hettyman said:
That's exactly what got me into smoking weed in the first place, after I finish this grow and move in a few months, recon that will be my next strain.

Also, that's how to make full use a smaller tent...bravo!!!
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Do it. Grow it nice. It only stretches about 2x in flower, so veg on the large side. And thank you, regarding the tent. That was 400w under 2'7x2'7. You should see my 4'11x4'11.
 
Hettyman

Hettyman

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Thanks. I've grown Blue mystic, AK-48, and Strawberry cough before, which have all pretty much doubled, tried Aurora Indica and it grow from 18" to nearly 4' in flower, and cuased me no end of bother. I currently have some Buddha Cheese, and Blue Cheese (http://www.bigbuddhaseeds.com) and hoping they also only double, if not, i need to flip them last week lol.

I find I prefer dirty strong Indica's which remove all conscious thought...many more mature smokers like myself say that is sacrilege and it's about getting "high"..sod that, I still like getting "Busted"
 
PersonalJesus

PersonalJesus

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Grazzmon said:
BTW: I have since switched from all coco, because the little flies seem to like it way too much, to ProMix/Coco around a 75/25 mix and 8-9 weeks is getting it done. Next grow may be all ProMix unless I run into some reasonably priced, proven soil.

Grazz
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u looked into the "Sunshine Advanced CoCo Coir" ... myco activated, great water retention and release, and all the salts are pre-rinsed
 
giggles26

giggles26

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Hahah shit sorry guys. I got really stoned off my new bong and totally forgot, my bad guys. Ok here it is

Veg mix-1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses




Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses


1 Bale sunshine mix #2 or promix (3.8 cu ft)
8 cups Bone Meal - phosphorus source
4 cups Blood Meal - nitrogen source
1 1/3 cups Epsom salts - magnesium source
3-4 cups dolomite lime -calcium source & pH buffering
1 tsp fritted trace elements
4 cups kelp meal
9kg (25 lbs) bag pure worm castings


- Mix thoroughly, moisten, and let sit 1-2 weeks before use.

Water with ph water at 6.2-6.8 water, teas are not necessary but they do help.
 
ace720

ace720

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Holy cow:shock: You really use all that stuff!?!
Too much work for me
Im a chemical man
Lucas formula all the way:hump:
 
ace720

ace720

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But at the same time i dont think i CAN grow organic, i just keep fuckin it up.lol
So i had to find something that would work for me. And my girls love it. :-)
 
giggles26

giggles26

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Oh ace I've got a bunch of other recipes that are so simple here like this one. just use a good base soil and your golden.


RECIPE #5
Fish and Seaweed (This is sooo easy)


For veg growth…
1 capful 5-1-1 Fish Emulsion
1 capful Neptune's Harvest 0-0-1 Seaweed or Maxicrop liquid
1 gallon H2O


For early flowering…
1 tbs. Neptune’s Harvest 2-3-1 Fish/Seaweed
1 gallon H2O


For mid to late flowering…
1 tbs. Neptune’s Harvest 2-4-1 Fish
1 gallon H2O
 
Grazzmon

Grazzmon

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giggles26 said:
Hahah shit sorry guys. I got really stoned off my new bong and totally forgot, my bad guys. Ok here it is

Veg mix-1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses




Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses


1 Bale sunshine mix #2 or promix (3.8 cu ft)
8 cups Bone Meal - phosphorus source
4 cups Blood Meal - nitrogen source
1 1/3 cups Epsom salts - magnesium source
3-4 cups dolomite lime -calcium source & pH buffering
1 tsp fritted trace elements
4 cups kelp meal
9kg (25 lbs) bag pure worm castings


- Mix thoroughly, moisten, and let sit 1-2 weeks before use.

Water with ph water at 6.2-6.8 water, teas are not necessary but they do help.
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ace720 said:
Holy cow:shock: You really use all that stuff!?!
Too much work for me
Im a chemical man
Lucas formula all the way:hump:
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lol.. Ace ;)

I might try this.. looks like all of the work is done when the soil is mixed :).. just sit back and add water as needed :D

Grazz
 
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