250w HPS Club And Help Guide

123.ruffian777

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Nice, can't wait to see how much you yield dry weight come harvest time. Sounds like a nice hybrid, do you know the taste/smell of it?


I've never grow this particular strain so i'm not sure about final product (i heard that the high is pretty awesome) but i can say one thing so far: it is a low odour strain
 

Doobieus

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No problem Doobs,Hope you and your girl have a great weekend:peace::joint::hump::hug:
Already am, about to grub on some mini meatloafs I cooked in a mini muffin pan and mashed potatoes :hump:. Going good ole' classic tonight, lol :grin:. Hope you have a good one too Mind.

I've never grow this particular strain so i'm not sure about final product (i heard that the high is pretty awesome) but i can say one thing so far: it is a low odour strain
You can say that it's good for SoG grows too :bigjoint:lol. Nice well, when you harvest and cure and all that fun stuff, you should totally give us a smoke report :mrgreen:.
 

Mindmelted

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Already am, about to grub on some mini meatloafs I cooked in a mini muffin pan and mashed potatoes :hump:. Going good ole' classic tonight, lol :grin:. Hope you have a good one too Mind.

Damn love Meatloaf and Mashed Taters:hug:

Here is a pic of the WB:peace:
 

chknhwk

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thank boobieus yeah i reread that and lowered it some but ima have to lower it more when i get back to my grow
and when you say starter leaves are you talking bout the round seed leaves or the first sed of jagged leaves the ones i was wondering about is the third set

abd on more quick question if i transplant my plants lower in the soil to bring the soil closer the the first leaves will roots grow from the stem or just from the root already im tring to bring it back dow cause the stretching it did the since tues and im not gonna be able to do what i need to the lights and stuff till mon
 

Doobieus

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Damn love Meatloaf and Mashed Taters:hug:

Here is a pic of the WB:peace:
If I'm ever down in Florida I'll hit you up on here and make you some, I assure you I'm a damn good cook lol. It cooks faster than regular meatloaf because of the mini muffin pan and the mini meatloafs are like bite size. I'm going to cook an 8-10 hour pot roast today for dinner, my girl really likes it :grin: (Plus gotta earn them brownie points some how right? lol).

Anyhow enough about culinary Doobs lol, that WB is looking mighty MIGHTY fine :hump:. Those buds are fattening up so nicely, it's settled I'm gonna have to get some WB lol :weed:. I keep changing my mind on the order lol, but I think I'm going to make 2 seperate orders. An Indica dominate mix (4 strains) and a Sativa dominate mix (4 strains).

Hope your weekend is going well :bigjoint:.

thank boobieus yeah i reread that and lowered it some but ima have to lower it more when i get back to my grow
and when you say starter leaves are you talking bout the round seed leaves or the first sed of jagged leaves the ones i was wondering about is the third set

abd on more quick question if i transplant my plants lower in the soil to bring the soil closer the the first leaves will roots grow from the stem or just from the root already im tring to bring it back dow cause the stretching it did the since tues and im not gonna be able to do what i need to the lights and stuff till mon
No problem dude, Lol "Boobieus" seriously I couldn't stop laughing for awhile :clap:, lol awesome :lol:.

I was talking about the first set of jagged ones, but regardless which set of leaves, it shouldn't take more than a couple days (Max a week) to start seeing a new growth grow out.

As far as roots....

It should slowly start to develop roots, sometimes you can even get a stray root that grows above the soil, had that happen to me in my last grow during bloom. Honestly stretching this far into the grow isn't all that big of an issue, unless it's falling over and stuff. You usually have to palm/clear your plants anyway about 4-6 inches up the stalk to provide proper airflow to prevent bugs and mold. I actually stretch my plants a little bit during the seedling stage so I don't have to sacrifice actual nodes/budsites to palm my plants. Sometimes they don't stretch enough and I just have to bite the bullet and palm nodes off anyway lol.

If the stretch is that bad bring the light back down on Monday, and they should start growing normally. Given your description they sound like they are strong enough to have the light closer now anyway.

Hope this helps :bigjoint:.
 

Mindmelted

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If I'm ever down in Florida I'll hit you up on here and make you some, I assure you I'm a damn good cook lol. It cooks faster than regular meatloaf because of the mini muffin pan and the mini meatloafs are like bite size. I'm going to cook an 8-10 hour pot roast today for dinner, my girl really likes it :grin: (Plus gotta earn them brownie points some how right? lol).

Anyhow enough about culinary Doobs lol, that WB is looking mighty MIGHTY fine :hump:. Those buds are fattening up so nicely, it's settled I'm gonna have to get some WB lol :weed:. I keep changing my mind on the order lol, but I think I'm going to make 2 seperate orders. An Indica dominate mix (4 strains) and a Sativa dominate mix (4 strains).

Hope your weekend is going well :bigjoint:.


Hey Boobieus:-P
Now thats funny,Almost wet my pants i was laughing so hard.The WB is looking sweet,The Middle cola though got screwed by the light burn.It's not going to get very big,The side shoot buds are gonna be bigger.Good cooking is my weakness,I am going to do some sativa dominate strains next grow myself.
Well just got back from playing gooney golf with the grand kid.Time to smoke some now:joint:He is 6 and kicked my ass again at Gooney golf.I must be getting old or someting.Hope you have your girl have a wonderful sunday and pig put on that roast for me.lol:peace:
 

Doobieus

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Hey Boobieus:-P
Now thats funny,Almost wet my pants i was laughing so hard.The WB is looking sweet,The Middle cola though got screwed by the light burn.It's not going to get very big,The side shoot buds are gonna be bigger.Good cooking is my weakness,I am going to do some sativa dominate strains next grow myself.
Well just got back from playing gooney golf with the grand kid.Time to smoke some now:joint:He is 6 and kicked my ass again at Gooney golf.I must be getting old or someting.Hope you have your girl have a wonderful sunday and pig put on that roast for me.lol:peace:
Lol yeah the Boobieus thing had me laughing pretty hard too lol. Crazy well maybe in the last swell before harvest that burned one will fatten up, we can only hope. Good cooking is my weakness too, hence why I learned to cook well lol. Yeah I'm debating on whether to get my Sativa or my Indica mix first, it's a real pain in the ass lol.

Lol you got your ass handed to you by a 6 year old lol jk, aww he's probably all proud of himself lol. We're all getting old lol, I'm hitting my 1/4 life crisis here soon eek :shock: lol.

Yeah totally dude we'll get down on that roast for sure, it's smelling really good. I gotta put the potatoes in, in a couple hours.

Have a good one!
 

Mindmelted

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I smell me some Roast.Just got back from watching monster vs aliens with the kid.Funny movie,of coarse i smoked before i saw it.And no never in front of the kid.Good movie though,I hope the middle bud fattens up.Well time to go play some more.
 

123.ruffian777

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You can say that it's good for SoG grows too :bigjoint:lol. Nice well, when you harvest and cure and all that fun stuff, you should totally give us a smoke report :mrgreen:.[/quote]

sure, why not
 

RichED

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to know to grow a 80% sativa (serious seeds Kali Mist) Im a beginner I grow in pairs and only busted beans three times before. Can 250w lights handle sativas any thing I need to know pro or con? Any pointers, warnings, or quirks.:peace:grow in peace
 

Mindmelted

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to know to grow a 80% sativa (serious seeds Kali Mist) Im a beginner I grow in pairs and only busted beans three times before. Can 250w lights handle sativas any thing I need to know pro or con? Any pointers, warnings, or quirks.:peace:grow in peace
Welcome to the club RichED

I would think a 250 would be fine for sativas.I have yet to grow one,but can not see how it would not do the job.If it can handle a indica it should have no problem with the sativa.They like to grow kinda tall though,That for me is the only quirk i would have to work around.
So yes i myself think it will work well for ya.:joint::peace:
 

Doobieus

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I smell me some Roast.Just got back from watching monster vs aliens with the kid.Funny movie,of coarse i smoked before i saw it.And no never in front of the kid.Good movie though,I hope the middle bud fattens up.Well time to go play some more.
I smell some roast too, smells good lol :p.

Mosters Vs. Aliens looks like a good one, I want to see it lol. Sounds like a real fun day Mind, bet you're an awesome grandpa. Sounds like it to me anyway :bigjoint:.

Have a great one.

to know to grow a 80% sativa (serious seeds Kali Mist) Im a beginner I grow in pairs and only busted beans three times before. Can 250w lights handle sativas any thing I need to know pro or con? Any pointers, warnings, or quirks.:peace:grow in peace
My Blueberry Madness is a hybrid also that looks to me to show mostly sativa traits. Just make sure that the sativa doesn't grow past 4 feet tall and you should be alright, with sativas you want to watch the density on the buds for sure because they naturally grow fluffy/stringy. So you want to make sure that there's no extra heat issues and what not so your buds don't grow too fluffy.

Sativas are also good for SCRoG for sure. So if you only do 2 plants you can raise your final yield with a SCRoG. I'd definitely recommend a SCRoG for sure. Lst would even be good for this strain.

Some sativa hybrids like my Blue Madness grow lanky like a sativa but have the density of an indica in the buds themselves. With Kali mist though since it's 80-90% sativa it's more than likely going to have pretty much all sativa traits.

The main things to remember are light penetration height and heat really. A 250 can handle a sativa or two no problem, depending on those factors.

Hope this helps :bigjoint:.
 

plantman969

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Hows everyone doing? Good I hope. Dropped by for little input.

I am running my 250 but decided to add a little more light to the mix . I hve a homebox s 2x2x6 and added 2 42w cfls 2600lumens at 2700k, 1 23w cfl at 1750lumens @ 2700k and 2 23w cfl uva/uvb reptile/lizard lights from the pet store putting out 5.0 uva/uvb rays. Read that uva/uvb rays are good during the bloom/flower cycle to help produce moe resin and hairs due to the radiation like effects of the bulbs. Can say that since putting these two bulbs in the tent i have seen a change in the bud production. The areas on the plant in the most direct path of these lights have shown significant hair prodution over the other parts of the plant. I have 3 plants in the bloom tent. 2 Super Lemon Haze (1 showing the sativa pheno and the other more of the indica phenos) from Greenhouse Seeds and 1 Barneys Farm Nightshade (This Plant is crazy Big leafed indica, even from early veg the leafs are huge i mean the size of fat basil leafs each part of the leaf not just the whole leaf .)

So this is my first true grow and have noticed some strange growth with my plants (not bad). I know everyone has there own tecnique but i have yet to see any plants like mine on any grow forum (grasscity, icmag, and here). For the best explination here goes.

Started with 16 seed and had never grown before and had terrible problems with the time from cracked seed to planting and sprouting. I could get the seed to crack but never sprout. I mean i tryed everything - tap water, ro/distiled water light no light, i mean everything.
So in the end what worked for me is the compleat opposit of what everyone suggest on these forums. For me to get past this stage here is what i did.

The day i put my seeds in papertowels (germed in wet paper towels sealed in a ziplock and set on my dresser) I also presoaked my rockwool and hydroton in a pre mixed gallon of 1/4 strength nutes)

PBP Grow, Calmag, Liquid Karma, Sweet, a touch of B-52, and Mycos - Stared with voodoo juice but now use humboldt nutes myco madness.

the next night all the seeds had cracked and it was time to plant. shook out the rockwool and drained the hydroton. Next instead of waiting for roots the plnts went directly into my dwc (at 300ppm/tds 198) with water filled to the second notch on the bottom of the net pots. Next i place some small plastic containers over each net pot acting like a humidome for each plant. Once the plant had removed the shell (sometimes with some very crafull help) and started on its second set of real leafs so the third set 1-water leaf - 2- 1st set of feeder/fan leafs - 3- 2nd set of fan leafs i removed the domes. This was all before the ddition of the cfls in the tent - so just the 250 was in there at the time.

This is where it gets different. i wanted to run only 2-4 plants (currently 3 plants) insted of the six on average for the size. I also wanted to top, supercrop, and lst all in the same grow. Didnt start this way but this is where i am at now. I started with topping my plants so as to keep them short bushes so the plant takes up the area of two. next i lowered my 250 to 4-6 inches above my plants just above the point i could feel the heat - so as low as i could go befor feeling the heat of the lamp. In doing this the plant remained short i mean short. I veged for 6 weeks from 3/3 - 4/12 before swithcing to 12/12. At this time the plants were only 9-10 inches tall max. On 4/3 i changed res water and damn near killed the plants ph was at 4.75 over night. Did another res change ending at ph 5.75 with ph nute lock out and over watered plants. cut off all affected plant matter and reveged till 4/12 when they recovered with all new leafs. 4/12 finallyswitched to 12/12.


because of almost killing the plants i ended up supercropping them when i removed all but the new grothw shoots. So at that point they had been topped and suppercroped, well as they recovered more for the first week of 12/12 i noticed a shit ton of growth. Worred i would run out of room and end up with a lot of smaller bud, i decided to lollipop all the brnches to one node below each top (each plant has a min of 12-16+ tops)
after this i added some tiedowns to a few branches and instaled an area for My scrog screen. Which will be installed in the next day or two as the plants are starting to reach the area designated for the screen.

So Lets Recap- Plants have been
1- Topped
2- suppercroped
3- Lollipoped
4- LSTed
5- and soon to be screened

in doing this my plants are crazy looking I mean they looked like mini trees. one plant my largest is different. i have net pot covers and straigt out of the top there is not really a stalk/ stem it branches out right out of the top.
the other two ave about 2-3 inches of stalk before the branching out. at each section of the plant where growth sprouts from the branches are swollen i mean nottie just huge. They have finnal reall started to strech and brought a friend by that has his own plants- to take a look and tell me what he thinks- This is whyi have posted he told me that he had never seen a cannibis plant that looked like mine - not in person or on any video he has seen. And i should post a video and pics to see if anyone has any input.

Now i know that i have tryed to much on my first grow (simplest is easyest and learn the basics), also if in the end crop is no good or small i will have a hrder time narrowing down what might have been wrong, but i am a really fast learner and like to experiment. No excuse! but ta all i got. so if you have any ideas on the possible outcome or ideas please let me know.

To late for pics as it is past lights out for my babies but i will post some tomarrow to give you some visuals to go with this long post.
 

Doobieus

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Looking forward to these pictures, lol your plants sound like they've been through hell and back dude. At least you know they're strong lol, probably from that super cropping. Post pictures for sure though, because I'm having a hard time visualizing this in my head lol.
 

Mindmelted

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Boy those plants have had a hell of a work out huh.Need some pics and some asprin(Body Hurts)
And i am sure we can help ya out.lol
 

RichED

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Gday is there anything special a new guy needs to know good or bad to grow sativa with a 250w hps is it possible? I plan to flower as soon as I know sex.:peace:
 
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