250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Jay_normous said:

I've a good few tops.. crappy pic i took..
I'm still trying to work out how to take a close up pic on the camrea..
Not sure of the strains (2) there are 8 in scrog.. the 3 at the back have just been put there to flower.
Never growing in the winter again...
Anybody got any insight on 250w MH & 250 Hps at the same time...??

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I have read that this is the best way to go, since you would have different ranges of the light spectrum. If I had the room and could keep the temps down this would be the way I would go.

Jay_normous said:

I've a good few tops.. crappy pic i took..
I'm still trying to work out how to take a close up pic on the camrea..
Not sure of the strains (2) there are 8 in scrog.. the 3 at the back have just been put there to flower.
Never growing in the winter again...
Anybody got any insight on 250w MH & 250 Hps at the same time...??

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i actually was gonna run a dual spectrum 250w mh and 250w hps got them just never done it i do just fine with the 250w hps.. but if you can keep your temps down i would go for it bro more light more buds lol i like to think..
but do w/e you like cant hurt to try and learn!

hempstead said:

I have a question for yahs. I recently just finished my first harvest. I did Nirvana Short Rider under a 250 and my buds are fluffy and not the hard nuggets I was hoping for. What would cause it to be fluffy? Is it genetics, did I harvest too early or do I need a bigger light? I am very pleased with the high and the taste, don't get me wrong but I just want them hard nuggets I usually get from my guy. Do you guys get the hard nuggets with the 250? I am hoping it is genetics. heh

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Could be the distance of your light to the plant,could be the strain,could be your feeding schedule,could be your enviorment,could be your nutes...(see what i'm getting at)..what kind of water are you using? my friend had big problems with his buds being "airy" because he was using his well water(switched to fresh rain water and bam better results)...what i'm getting at is everyone gets caught up on the light..yeah thats important, but your temps,nutes,air flow, play major factors.. also i use cfls for side lighting and that made a huge difference for me....i knew someone else who had no fans in his veg area and he wasn't growing a strong plant because he never had any wind on the plants for stem strength.. so he grew a weak plant and when you grow a weak plant you get weak airy buds..so i would re-evalueate your grow area Temps, Humidity.. reflection,cfl side lighting,your grow medium,make sure your mixing your nutes right,i recomend bc nutes...i have had night and day difference with that product over any.. fox farm all of them..it's real quality stuff...do more grows keep trying...it took me about 4 or 5 grows to really understand what was going on and with each grow since my yields and density in my buds have improved dramaticaly..i will say the cfl side light 6-42 watt cfl's for flowering made the biggest difference for me..with the 250 watt hps and the cfl's i am almost copying a 400 watt light...

Riggzy said:

Could be the distance of your light to the plant,could be the strain,could be your feeding schedule,could be your enviorment,could be your nutes...(see what i'm getting at)..what kind of water are you using? my friend had big problems with his buds being "airy" because he was using his well water(switched to fresh rain water and bam better results)...what i'm getting at is everyone gets caught up on the light..yeah thats important, but your temps,nutes,air flow, play major factors.. also i use cfls for side lighting and that made a huge difference for me....i knew someone else who had no fans in his veg area and he wasn't growing a strong plant because he never had any wind on the plants for stem strength.. so he grew a weak plant and when you grow a weak plant you get weak airy buds..so i would re-evalueate your grow area Temps, Humidity.. reflection,cfl side lighting,your grow medium,make sure your mixing your nutes right,i recomend bc nutes...i have had night and day difference with that product over any.. fox farm all of them..it's real quality stuff...do more grows keep trying...it took me about 4 or 5 grows to really understand what was going on and with each grow since my yields and density in my buds have improved dramaticaly..i will say the cfl side light 6-42 watt cfl's for flowering made the biggest difference for me..with the 250 watt hps and the cfl's i am almost copying a 400 watt light...

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I think it was the distance plus the strain. The cola buds were a lot tighter. They cured up into little nuggets and if i shake the jar it sounds like little rocks are in it. I did use BC nutes, Recipe for Success. I was happy with the kit but switched up the recipe quantities a bit. ALl of my newer plants are kept low with some LST so I think they will turn out much better. I also switched up to an agrosun gold bulb.

hempstead said:

I think it was the distance plus the strain. The cola buds were a lot tighter. They cured up into little nuggets and if i shake the jar it sounds like little rocks are in it. I did use BC nutes, Recipe for Success. I was happy with the kit but switched up the recipe quantities a bit. ALl of my newer plants are kept low with some LST so I think they will turn out much better. I also switched up to an agrosun gold bulb.

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cool deal bro...i would definetly get side lighting...other than that,just stick with it..you'll get it right...

Riggzy said:

cool deal bro...i would definetly get side lighting...other than that,just stick with it..you'll get it right...

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I've learnt a lesson by trying to grow outdoors in the biggest freeze and this most of all... Get the bulb as close to the plants as poss.. I dont have to tell you it all abot Lumens..

getting my 250 mh tomorrow for my 2x2 tent going to veg with it and flower with my 1000watts hps i will update u anybody veg with a 250watt mh any pic in your jornal wanna compare growth rates

so i chopped half of my White Castle yesterday and got some fat nugs that look absolutly scrumptious tell me what you guys think!

now there is 140g(wet)there and theres roughly about another 80-100 wet grams left on the half of the plant that i threw back in closet, not to bads for a 250w i must say,considering i have a freind with a huge medical setup running 3-1000w hps & 3-1000w MHs over like 36 plants and during the chop last night the most one of the purple kushes had yielded was like 70g(wet). but im most def sure he is doing something very wrong that he is not telling me lol..

check it out

Fnn chronic..gorgeous pics....really nice.
one question..on pic 7, it looks as if you have the light about 14 inches above your plant.
How far do you typically keep light above canopy?

I believe consensus is penetration of light is around 12 inches...so keep as close as possible given heat.
I over nuted with FF so I think that's why my plants look burnt at 9 inches from 250...all purple and clawed...ouch...but i'm flushing and hoping for late recovery...burned at 3-5 weeks in flowering..stinks..but only 2nd indoor so learning and yes...thanks to all the others before us..dobious..etc..they rock.

I have read this forum and a few others about a month ago.
I can't remember if it was mentioned before so I will ask.



I'm looking for a decent MH bulb to go with a 250w Lumatek ballast. I will be using this for Veg with some cfl's.


Any suggestions?
Thanks

Blackbeard said:

I have read this forum and a few others about a month ago.
I can't remember if it was mentioned before so I will ask.



I'm looking for a decent MH bulb to go with a 250w Lumatek ballast. I will be using this for Veg with some cfl's.


Any suggestions?
Thanks

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Here is a cheap one that I was using. Click here
And this is what I am using now for flowering. click here

Hey all you 250ers

Glad to see that the forum is still going strong.

Hope you all have a great harvest and be safe..

Peace
MM

Ok so im siiting here trying to figure out how to get ready for the upcoming warmer months, because im already on the border of to much heat already and a ten degree temp change would have me in dangerous teritory to say the least running 84-86 constant now with 90 degree at times..so you see my dilema? anyway im surfing the sights looking at all these gidgets gadgets that i know i cant agfford feeling like a noob again,when i run across a disscusion page thats talking about air flow, circulation and removal the whole nine yards and i read something that i dont think a lot of us here realize because ive never heard it discussed here and that is that what ever air you introduce to an area must be accounted for when trying to remove it and this means the air from your circulating fans as well..Ive been running two circulating fans 12" and 6" in my grow room trying to cool my light by blowing air on it or across it well much to my suprise i find out that this air flow is doing more harm than good when trying to get a good exaust of warm air from your grow area,you see the the more air pressure circulating around in your room the more exaust you'll need..I say this because everytime someone mentions heat issues all you here is get a bigger or better fan some 200.00 beast to freeze your nuts off, not neccessary at least for me...Let me tell you what i did after reading these post, first i removed one of my exaust fans thats right removed it and put it in the place of my passive intake so now this is what i have very cheaply i have (3) home depot inline cheap 80 cfm fans 18.95 apiece,and one ecoplus axial fan that i love 4.5 " 120 cfm this thing is a beast.But any way heres how it's set up i have one home depot special 80 cfm running exaust from my box through my cool tube,the next80 cfm special is a direct exaust from box..As for the intake i have at the moment put the 4.5" ecoplus axial fan at one intake post and the other post is passsive with a hole of only 3 1/2 "as for the other 80 cfm special i dont use it, dont need it, removed it , why because i also removed from the box the 12" oscilating fan and put the 6" oscilating fan on medium blowing under the plants..since making these simple changes my temps have been at a constant 75 degree's the moral of the story is calculate all your air flowing blowing intake exaust etc. it dosnt have to be expensive and you dont have to put every house fan you own in there because more then likely it wont work out right..You want to introduce good cool fresh air to the box by way of intake yes but what you dont want is some mega fan inside your box blowing your hot air around creating more presure on your exaust than it can handle so to hell with passive intake at least standing alone get some good air flow from your intake and get rid of the big ass box fans you think are doing you a favor there not..Peace

hempstead said:

Here is a cheap one that I was using. Click here
And this is what I am using now for flowering. click here

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Thanks.
I was looking at those as well and I figured for that price why not.

I have also been looking at sites like
http://www.1000bulbs.com/
http://www.buylighting.com/
http://www.lightbulbemporium.com/250w_metal_halide_lamps.asp
and many others.

Do pulse start and probe start make a difference in digital ballasts?

hey guys i am using my 250w hps in a pretty small space now even without cooltube just intakes and exhausts

temps are hovering at low 80s

check out the last page

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/294653-tamjams-2nd-grow-snow-white.html

Just about to order some stuff for my new grow area, will be using 250 Watt HPS + MH, do you think this is a good price for all this gear before i waste money and order (btw i already have a carbon filter):

Aluminium Tape 1x 50m
Light Block Plastic Sheeting(WBW) 4x 1x3m
2m Sticky Zipper Strips(ZIPPER) 1x 2m
Square pots(SQ_POTS) 3x 6L
Jack Chain(JACK) 4x 2m
BioBizz Bio-Grow (nu_bbbg) 1x
BioBizz Bio-Bloom (nu_bbbb) 1x
Euro Lighting Systems 250 Watt HPS Bulb, ballast and reflector 1x
PowerPlant Pro Metal Halide 250 Watt 1x

£139 inclusive of shipping

Dammit post got destroyed...New member. 250 HPS. CLoset stealth. First Cali Grow.50 year old heads telling me best plants they have seen...

2x kush bag seeds OG and 1 Love CHeese clone.
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Newbcake here...250 watter. 2x 48"FLO's with 1x being an aquarium light and the rest cool white or what not.

Proof is in the pudding these pics are 14 days old or so. 2x OG Kush Hermy Bag Seeds and 1x Luv Cheese Clone.

***Even half centruy old lot-heads are seeing my plants and going " WHOA. Never seen anything like it"

This is due to thick stem size, massive fan blades, and great growth and health. (Extra long veg starting with the FLo's is what my rookie self attributes this too)
It is because I grow them with love to give away and smoke
myself silly, and the plants knw this.

Thanks for all the free advice here. Been lurking for a month or 2.

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Pe@ce,

HymroD

I guess I should add:

Fox Farm Soil w/Perlite + Hydroton at bottom and top

House of Garden Soil A/B

Mama something cheap o Nitrogen booster apparently works (Eleanors VF11)

Eggshells, coffee grinds, San Diego Tap Water, and now Jamaican Bat Guano during flowering. 5 gallon Tall boys.

Not bad for a 1st Cali indy grow. Done Florida indy/outtie but nothing serious like now.

Pe@ce,

HymroD