250w HPS Club And Help Guide

SnowMonkey said:

Now thats an answer thank you ...

Il do that so.. mm should continue to water or ?

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No problem Snowmonkey, you're welcome.

Yes definitely keep watering as you have been, when she gets closer to harvest you will want to flush 1-2 weeks prior to harvest depending on the amount of nutrients you used. I'm not sure if you are familiar with the term/practice of flushing, but in a nutshell you water with just plain water no nutes. It allows the plant to break down the remainder better, as well as getting all those nasties out of it. I wouldn't pour my nutes on my breakfast, so why intake it in my lungs or eat it?

ooo and doobieus You were right just had a good look at the bigger plant under natrul light and most of the pistils are white on the top of many of the buds...So its still flowering my rent money for college should be secure

Ive got some smaller ones at the very bottem should i get rid of them or keep as more effort into the big ones

and thank you

SnowMonkey said:

ooo and doobieus You were right just had a good look at the bigger plant under natrul light and most of the pistils are white on the top of many of the buds...So its still flowering my rent money for college should be secure

Ive got some smaller ones at the very bottem should i get rid of them or keep as more effort into the big ones

and thank you

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How tall is your plant?

When you say bottom, how far above the top soil?

I personally prune a bit of undergrowth 1-2 nodes depending on the plant/strain. You want the plants to be able to get some air in the bottoms to keep things fresh and not moldy. Mold is definitely bad bad times, plus it makes it easier to water. Generally a couple nodes up from top soil should do though. I do most of my pruning in Veg, I don't prune in Bloom really though as it stresses the plant.

With you being this late into bloom I wouldn't prune unless you are having problems big time with watering or mold. Plus the energy the plant will use to heal those wounds will be energy that could have been used to produce buds and even those small buds are useful for making hash or hash oils out of.

Doobieus said:

No problem Snowmonkey, you're welcome.

Yes definitely keep watering as you have been, when she gets closer to harvest you will want to flush 1-2 weeks prior to harvest depending on the amount of nutrients you used. I'm not sure if you are familiar with the term/practice of flushing, but in a nutshell you water with just plain water no nutes. It allows the plant to break down the remainder better, as well as getting all those nasties out of it. I wouldn't pour my nutes on my breakfast, so why intake it in my lungs or eat it?

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well its my first grow i got some bud off a mate with some seeds and went from there and these to lovely ladys came to lite ...
So its sorta like pre drying to the actual drying ?

I think I may just do this....

Yeah makes sense on the nuts... to.....

have you any idea on what strain im growing and what it could be as i dont kinda curious about it

Doobieus said:

How tall is your plant?

When you say bottom, how far above the top soil?

I personally prune a bit of undergrowth 1-2 nodes depending on the plant/strain. You want the plants to be able to get some air in the bottoms to keep things fresh and not moldy. Mold is definitely bad bad times, plus it makes it easier to water. Generally a couple nodes up from top soil should do though. I do most of my pruning in Veg, I don't prune in Bloom really though as it stresses the plant.

With you being this late into bloom I wouldn't prune unless you are having problems big time with watering or mold. Plus the energy the plant will use to heal those wounds will be energy that could have been used to produce buds and even those small buds are useful for making hash or hash oils out of.

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Flacity is 39 inchs from soil to tip... Tho to be fait shes a very stretched plant i was concerned about the over all height from plant to light so i had it a little higher so its very open

theres no mold on the plants shes as clean as a she should be

knock on wood

SnowMonkey said:

Flacity is 39 inchs from soil to tip... Tho to be fait shes a very stretched plant i was concerned about the over all height from plant to light so i had it a little higher so its very open

theres no mold on the plants shes as clean as a she should be

knock on wood

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A 250 can penetrate up to 3-4 feet or so, so you will be alright to leave them if you want. It's up to you if you want to chop them or just leave them, but like I said you can use those small popcorn under buds for some concentrates .

Doobieus said:

Welcome to the club 400. You'll notice better lumen output, light penetration and happier plants. Other than that if your portable AC is an actual AC and not evaporative cooler then you shouldn't have to worry about humidity too much. If it is an actual AC then you may have to get a humidifier, other than that can't wait to see your grow.

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thats really the only thing I havent decided on yet. There are the cheaper units (evaporative coolers) that could be beneifical in that i can put Ona in the water to help neutralize smell. However, I really want my temperature to be perfect and I dont think those cheaper units will cut it. I have some shopping to do as far as that goes. That, and I need to pick a hood, either the CoolTube or the Euro Reflector... Im leaning towards the Euro though as it looks to give a more wide and even spread of light, has a pane of glass, and has vent flanges. I cant wait to get started as well. I love the fact that there is always something to learn and get better at in botany

Doobieus said:

You've got 2 weeks at the minimum personally if not more, I don't see any fox tailed parts of the bud in that pic. The pistils have not even began to recede into the calyxes and too many of the pistils are still white.

As far as the dark period is concerned the scientific backing on that is....

When the lights go out the water drops back down to the soil/medium and the unmoveable nutes/acids start working. Basically the 2 main reason for that is to not have so much water weight in the plant when you harvest, and quick maturing/finishing up the trichs (NOT creating more but maturing the existing ones). The first holds more truth to it than the latter though, I do the dark period to lose a little more water weight but as far as the trichs maturity I have not seen enough of a result to be confident in that.


Jeweler's loupe you can generally find at a jewelry, hobby, bead store or those type of stores. Other than that you're buying online, which isn't bad or anything.

You've got a few more weeks, more of the pistils are showing color in this pic than the last. You can definitely see the development between the two pics.

Hope this helps all.

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Im looking for more of an upbeat high then a stoney couchlock, do you think 1 1/2 to 2 weeks sounds right? Ill be ordering a jewelers loupe tonight, so ill probably have it by next weekend. Ill post more pics later this week.

Good looks

400aZip said:

thats really the only thing I havent decided on yet. There are the cheaper units (evaporative coolers) that could be beneifical in that i can put Ona in the water to help neutralize smell. However, I really want my temperature to be perfect and I dont think those cheaper units will cut it. I have some shopping to do as far as that goes. That, and I need to pick a hood, either the CoolTube or the Euro Reflector... Im leaning towards the Euro though as it looks to give a more wide and even spread of light, has a pane of glass, and has vent flanges. I cant wait to get started as well. I love the fact that there is always something to learn and get better at in botany

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Well if it is in a closet, a window AC on Craigslist is easily found. A small to medium sized bedroom you will want a 5,000 - 6,000 BTU unit a 5k should work easily though. If you're concerned about temps more than anything go with a regular AC unit, because if it is humid where you live then the evaporative cooler won't do much at all those are better in dry climates like in the desert. An AC does better all around in my opinion though, regardless of environment/climate. I have lived in both desert and tropical climates, and this has been my experience. Best thing to do if you choose the window AC route, you can measure your room and calculate how many BTU's you need for that space. If you want more the portable AC style with a duct to the window or whatever, you can convert a window AC to do that with some dryer ducting and some hosing for the hot air to vent out and for the drainage from the water pan/condensation from the condensor or grill/radiator.

I have my bloom tent and clone/veg cab inside of a closet, the window AC is vented towards the closet. The hot air is vented through ducting through holes in panda film I made. I had to make a panda film door/wall because my closet door doesn't open like a normal door or a normal sliding closet door, it folds and is a big mirror. With my doors closed my temps are 76-78F in summer months, now that the season is changing it has been 74-76F lately and I will have to adjust my AC temp to account for that. My temp measurements are from a temp probe about 4 inches under my light.

Edit: Sorry for the novel lol.

Check this out. My girl was from bagseed, but these two pictures are almost identical, and the description fits my girl perfectly. This is a pic of my girl beside a fully developed Northern Lights picture, directly from the Nirvana website. What do you think? Do I have some Northern Lights on my hands??

GrapePhilly&Chronic said:

Im looking for more of an upbeat high then a stoney couchlock, do you think 1 1/2 to 2 weeks sounds right? Ill be ordering a jewelers loupe tonight, so ill probably have it by next weekend. Ill post more pics later this week.

Good looks

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I'd say more towards two weeks personally, but post more pictures as the week progresses and when you get your loupe let us know the %'s and I will have a better answer for you. It's bag seed so we don't know strain, and finishing times are strain dependent, but by the looks of it you got some time.

Doobieus said:

I'd say more towards two weeks personally, but post more pictures as the week progresses and when you get your loupe let us know the %'s and I will have a better answer for you. It's bag seed so we don't know strain, and finishing times are strain dependent, but by the looks of it you got some time.

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^^ Check out that pic! What do you think? Id love an expert opinion

GrapePhilly&Chronic said:

Check this out. My girl was from bagseed, but these two pictures are almost identical, and the description fits my girl perfectly. This is a pic of my girl beside a fully developed Northern Lights picture, directly from the Nirvana website. What do you think? Do I have some Northern Lights on my hands??

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Could be, but strain is more than just looks, when you breed you have your parents then you have your babies from those, then you back cross those babies and get a whole slew of new babies. A lot of them exhibiting different looks, smell, taste, potency, and many other variables. There's a lot more to breeding but I just wanted to use that as an example to explain that there are so many differences in plants that it is really hard to narrow it down by just looks. With that said, looks wise yeah it sure does look close if not identical lol.

Basically trying to find out what strain bag seed is with no prior knowledge of strain, is like trying to find out who IS THE FATHER on Maury lol.

Doobieus said:

Could be, but strain is more than just looks, when you breed you have your parents then you have your babies from those, then you back cross those babies and get a whole slew of new babies. A lot of them exhibiting different looks, smell, taste, potency, and many other variables. There's a lot more to breeding but I just wanted to use that as an example to explain that there are so many differences in plants that it is really hard to narrow it down by just looks. With that said, looks wise yeah it sure does look close if not identical lol.

Basically trying to find out what strain bag seed is with no prior knowledge of strain, is like trying to find out who IS THE FATHER on Maury lol.

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Hahaha i feel ya. Its still northern lights to anyone who asks me in person though! lmao. Ive got the pictures to prove it

GrapePhilly&Chronic said:

Hahaha i feel ya. Its still northern lights to anyone who asks me in person though! lmao. Ive got the pictures to prove it

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Lol too funny.

Just ordered this jewelers loupe. $8 after shipping, and its 60x magnification.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/300562373133?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Here's my 250's worth, lol! she's a durban/northern lights at 75 days! I'm planning on harvesting at 80-85 days but the 250 is "kicking a%$!" I almost switched up to a 400, tried it for a day and a half but heat became an issue and back to the 250 I went!!
pics below are at 73 days!! luv the 250 hps!!! its just perfect for a small closet!!!!

yetibear said:

Here's my 250's worth, lol! she's a durban/northern lights at 75 days! I'm planning on harvesting at 80-85 days but the 250 is "kicking a%$!" I almost switched up to a 400, tried it for a day and a half but heat became an issue and back to the 250 I went!!
pics below are at 73 days!! luv the 250 hps!!! its just perfect for a small closet!!!!

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Looking good Yeti, keep it up.

yetibear said:

Here's my 250's worth, lol! she's a durban/northern lights at 75 days! I'm planning on harvesting at 80-85 days but the 250 is "kicking a%$!" I almost switched up to a 400, tried it for a day and a half but heat became an issue and back to the 250 I went!!
pics below are at 73 days!! luv the 250 hps!!! its just perfect for a small closet!!!!

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what kinda of strain is that are you getting a high yield pardon the pun because of the strain?

im trying to pick my next plants not easy

SnowMonkey said:

what kinda of strain is that are you getting a high yield pardon the pun because of the strain?

im trying to pick my next plants not easy

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Im havin the same problem brother

So many choices! I've been looking a lot into Nirvana's: Ice and their Snow White. Anybody tried these strains?