250w HPS Club And Help Guide

7cotton7

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Hey guys, I just chopped down one of my plants. She was vegged for around a month to a month and a half from seed then got cut on day 73 of flower and could have waited shoved couple days. I call her 4 way because I topped her at the second node and she grew 4 head sized colas and that's it. Sorry this is my only picture but y'all get the point. She is some bagseed but my buddy claims its bc bud because of the hollow stems but I think he is full of it
 

Doobieus

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Hey guys, I just chopped down one of my plants. She was vegged for around a month to a month and a half from seed then got cut on day 73 of flower and could have waited shoved couple days. I call her 4 way because I topped her at the second node and she grew 4 head sized colas and that's it. Sorry this is my only picture but y'all get the point. She is some bagseed but my buddy claims its bc bud because of the hollow stems but I think he is full of it
Lol yeah I think you're right, your friend is pretty full of it. Let us know how it smokes.
 

7cotton7

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Alright folks I just wanted to share some pics of the final bud from the same plant as the bud above. In the side by side pics that was one of the 4 branches from the plant and I cut it in half. The closet is the whole plant hanging out preparing themselves for jars. I love my 250 and would recommend one to anyone looking to grow for personal use.
 

bonze309

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This is going to be my first yr growing indoors I normally grow outside but screwed over by a so called friend butTryn to come up with some good beans I like havn diffrent stuff then others peac I am building a wind genartor I will have a 250 i think there called dust to dawn or securrity 3 of the t4..That way they will be getting plenty of light and should keep the cost should be way down will hav pics after i get it finnished plz feel free to drop me some hints or how many i can grow and maxmize my space
 

Doobieus

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This is going to be my first yr growing indoors I normally grow outside but screwed over by a so called friend butTryn to come up with some good beans I like havn diffrent stuff then others peac I am building a wind genartor I will have a 250 i think there called dust to dawn or securrity 3 of the t4..That way they will be getting plenty of light and should keep the cost should be way down will hav pics after i get it finnished plz feel free to drop me some hints or how many i can grow and maxmize my space
How many were you growing outdoors? A 250 won't replicate the same results as the sun, just saying. I don't want you to be disappointed with the results if you are used to growing x amount of plants outdoors.
 

Doobieus

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Couple more picz. 8 weeks into flower now:bigjoint:
Looking great GPC!!

That plant looks like it will probably be a 12 weeker to me, the buds haven't done their final swell yet. Watch out for lockout and sensitivity to heat at this point, lockout will lock out the nutrients/have nasty salt build up. Heat will stunt growth/productivity and possibly even stretch out grow time.

Like I said though GPC, looking wonderful!!
 

Doobieus

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I think I need to look more into this lockout thing I haven't heard of that yet
Lockout is basically too much salt build up.

Roots absorb water/nutrients which uptake from the roots to the plant. Nutrients are made up of different kinds of salts. The salts when not dissolved properly because of salt build up or whatever reason makes it harder for roots to absorb nutrients properly. Soil growers run into this a lot more than hydro growers (After they dial their system in), because lockout usually only occurs in hydro when there's some big change in nutes. This is lockout in a nutshell.
 

yetibear

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Couple more picz. 8 weeks into flower now:bigjoint:
;-) GOOD LOOKIN GP&C!! nice job my friend!!! should do you some goodbongsmiliewhen done with that grow!

I fully agree with "doobieus" :clap:on his statement about the 12 weeks;-) sadly thats one of the "down sides" with using the 250, it just takes a little longer, but always worth the wait!!!! again good job. yeti

Here are some more pics of my "dn" at 80 days old today. triches are now starting to turn amber, I'd say about 80/20 as of today, planning on harvesting anytime now!:?:
 

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7cotton7

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Can someone please point me in the correct direction on lockout info. Everything I have looked at here are just people telling others they may have lockout no one ever says what is it or how its cause or a solution to the problem. Any help is appreciated since im here to learn, thanks and +rep for help
 

stonemalone

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finally got my 250w hps grow on the go. check out the link in my sig to see my 2 Blue Cheese clones, Juicy Fruit and some kinda bagseed growing :)
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GrapePhilly&Chronic

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Looking great GPC!!

That plant looks like it will probably be a 12 weeker to me, the buds haven't done their final swell yet. Watch out for lockout and sensitivity to heat at this point, lockout will lock out the nutrients/have nasty salt build up. Heat will stunt growth/productivity and possibly even stretch out grow time.

Like I said though GPC, looking wonderful!!
How do i prevent lockout? Also, I was using the dyna-gro liquid bloom formula, but ive been flushing using distilled water & molasses. Should I switch back 2 the nutes, or would continuing to use the molasses make more sense ? Im looking for an 'upbeat' high, so I'll be giving an update when my jewelers loupe comes in. Does the earlier harvest due to the trichome colour(20% amber) drastically effect the yield? Does the bud just continue to 'swell' the longer you let it sit if you really enjoy the couchlock?(Not me personally, but just to know. lol) ie. 15 week flower = HUGE 'stoney-couchlock' buds?
Thanks 4 the help :bigjoint:
 

GreenGrower14

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Can someone please point me in the correct direction on lockout info. Everything I have looked at here are just people telling others they may have lockout no one ever says what is it or how its cause or a solution to the problem. Any help is appreciated since im here to learn, thanks and +rep for help
Lockout is a general statement really... its all about PH nutes get "locked out" when the ph level drops below or rises above a certain spot on the PH scale. Im not sure about the exact ph levels but as long as you ph your water before you feed your plants youll most likely not have a problem. most people confuse deficiencies with lockout but they are different but have almost the same effect on a plant. google "what ph locks out nutrients" and you should find some info

GG
 

GreenGrower14

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How do i prevent lockout? Also, I was using the dyna-gro liquid bloom formula, but ive been flushing using distilled water & molasses. Should I switch back 2 the nutes, or would continuing to use the molasses make more sense ? Im looking for an 'upbeat' high, so I'll be giving an update when my jewelers loupe comes in. Does the earlier harvest due to the trichome colour(20% amber) drastically effect the yield? Does the bud just continue to 'swell' the longer you let it sit if you really enjoy the couchlock?(Not me personally, but just to know. lol) ie. 15 week flower = HUGE 'stoney-couchlock' buds?
Thanks 4 the help :bigjoint:

prevent lockout by keeping a regular ph around 6.5 to 7 and you shouldnt have any probs. As far as time the longer you let a plant go after it has rippened (sp) the THC will begin to degrade and turn into CBD and CBN. thus lowering potency. Amber trichs are the beginning of this process so if its a 12 week strain it might not be as potent at 15 or 16 weeks.
 

yetibear

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Can someone please point me in the correct direction on lockout info. Everything I have looked at here are just people telling others they may have lockout no one ever says what is it or how its cause or a solution to the problem. Any help is appreciated since im here to learn, thanks and +rep for help
I know how you feel! something like this:wall: right? lockout I've found is a term thrown around alot more then it should be! in all fairness I have only had "lockout" once and it was caused by me using to much of a "good thing" and not enough of the other "good things"

Now about "lockout", what are you using for soil! nutes? how often are you feeding, is the ph level consistent? these are your 1st thing's to consider, because if you using decent soils and nutes, and your NOT over doing 1 thing or another, you wont have any sort of "lockout"

Are you thinking about lockout because of this harvest you've just completed?? it looks to me as maybe it "missed out" on some things during it's grow! please don't feel as if I'm teasing, I assure you I'm not! my 1st grow ended up with lockout and BUD ROT!!!!:o7 months from seed to finish all so I could throw it out!!!:spew::spew::spew: :spew::spew::spew::spew::spew:
 

Joos Springsteen

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Can someone please point me in the correct direction on lockout info. Everything I have looked at here are just people telling others they may have lockout no one ever says what is it or how its cause or a solution to the problem. Any help is appreciated since im here to learn, thanks and +rep for help
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/8596-nutrient-lockout-explained.html


Also, Cotton, nice nugs you've posted on the previous page. Stuff looks tasty.
 

Doobieus

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;-) GOOD LOOKIN GP&C!! nice job my friend!!! should do you some goodbongsmiliewhen done with that grow!

I fully agree with "doobieus" :clap:on his statement about the 12 weeks;-) sadly thats one of the "down sides" with using the 250, it just takes a little longer, but always worth the wait!!!! again good job. yeti

Here are some more pics of my "dn" at 80 days old today. triches are now starting to turn amber, I'd say about 80/20 as of today, planning on harvesting anytime now!:?:
HER you mean lol.

Looking good by the by.

Can someone please point me in the correct direction on lockout info. Everything I have looked at here are just people telling others they may have lockout no one ever says what is it or how its cause or a solution to the problem. Any help is appreciated since im here to learn, thanks and +rep for help
I was taught about this by a friend of mine, who has been growing for quite some time now. Last time I talked to him he was growing/care taking in the previous state I lived which was MMJ friendly.

finally got my 250w hps grow on the go. check out the link in my sig to see my 2 Blue Cheese clones, Juicy Fruit and some kinda bagseed growing :smile:
Welcome to the club Stonemalone!!

How do i prevent lockout? Also, I was using the dyna-gro liquid bloom formula, but ive been flushing using distilled water & molasses. Should I switch back 2 the nutes, or would continuing to use the molasses make more sense ? Im looking for an 'upbeat' high, so I'll be giving an update when my jewelers loupe comes in. Does the earlier harvest due to the trichome colour(20% amber) drastically effect the yield? Does the bud just continue to 'swell' the longer you let it sit if you really enjoy the couchlock?(Not me personally, but just to know. lol) ie. 15 week flower = HUGE 'stoney-couchlock' buds?
Thanks 4 the help :bigjoint:
Monitoring trichomes is more about customizing your high, however a plant will let you know when it is ready by physically having a swell and receding hairs when it is matured. 10 or 12 week is what you're probably looking at, more along the lines of 12. It doesn't keep swelling usually, however there are sativas that I have seen go for 14-16 weeks easy, like they don't stop growing lol but are usually pulled around that time anyhow because regardless if they are still growing they are ready because they have already done the final swell.

Lockout is a general statement really... its all about PH nutes get "locked out" when the ph level drops below or rises above a certain spot on the PH scale. Im not sure about the exact ph levels but as long as you ph your water before you feed your plants youll most likely not have a problem. most people confuse deficiencies with lockout but they are different but have almost the same effect on a plant. google "what ph locks out nutrients" and you should find some info

GG
Yes PH plays a role but TDS and EC play a bigger role in that. The PH causes the EC and TDS to be off, causing the salts that are in nutrients to build up (because of not being properly dissolved due to PH) preventing the nutrients to absorb (Osmosis) through the membrane of the root. The plant's root system cannot break it down, causing lockout.

prevent lockout by keeping a regular ph around 6.5 to 7 and you shouldnt have any probs. As far as time the longer you let a plant go after it has rippened (sp) the THC will begin to degrade and turn into CBD and CBN. thus lowering potency. Amber trichs are the beginning of this process so if its a 12 week strain it might not be as potent at 15 or 16 weeks.
Clearex is you friend, got to love a good salt leecher.

6.5 is optimal for soil and 5.8 for hydro, at these levels you intake the most nutrients.

THCA turns into THC which turns to CBN, CBD goes from CBDA to CBD. However yes the longer you mature the more the plant will metabolize into more of a heavier couch lock high.

I know how you feel! something like this:wall: right? lockout I've found is a term thrown around alot more then it should be! in all fairness I have only had "lockout" once and it was caused by me using to much of a "good thing" and not enough of the other "good things"

Now about "lockout", what are you using for soil! nutes? how often are you feeding, is the ph level consistent? these are your 1st thing's to consider, because if you using decent soils and nutes, and your NOT over doing 1 thing or another, you wont have any sort of "lockout"

Are you thinking about lockout because of this harvest you've just completed?? it looks to me as maybe it "missed out" on some things during it's grow! please don't feel as if I'm teasing, I assure you I'm not! my 1st grow ended up with lockout and BUD ROT!!!!:o7 months from seed to finish all so I could throw it out!!!:spew::spew::spew: :spew::spew::spew::spew::spew:
When using molasses lockout isn't a term that is thrown around too much.

Ouch Yeti, should have made some hash oil to at least get something out of it. That had to hurt, ouch just ouch.
 
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