2nd day of flowering, why are they doing this?

SuthernKumfert

Well-Known Member
first off i vegged for 5 weeks to the day, i am using a simple hydro set up with 4 foot fluro's using 6500K lights with dyna grow nutes, i just switched them in to flowering 2 days ago and i also switched them from the dyna grow nutes to dyna bloom and i switched the lights to 3100K lights and i noticed they did get a little bigger over the two days but some of the leaves are starting to get some brown and yellow spots on them...is this normal...dont get me wrong most of the leaves look just as they did before i switched to flowering but there are a few that look like the pic below...please help me with this!
 

Attachments

xavierinthenati

Active Member
Looks like nitrogen deficiency to me. Are the tips of the leaves yellow/brown on all leaves (i.e. not just ones close to the bulb) and brittle? If so, this is quite normal. I'm not a botanist, but I've heard that when the girls start to flower, they use up a lot of nitrogen reserves, as a result, this condition may appear. What I've done in the past is use a dose of nutes that contain a high concentration of nitrogen (check the label on your nutes and use the one that has the highest nitrogen concentration). In my experience, the leaves don't recover immediately, but they don't get worse. If you leave it unattended, you may see the problem spread further down the leaves and the leaves will crumble when you pinch them in your fingers. My advice would be to add one "serving" of nitrogen-rich nutes to the next watering, watch for a watering cycle, then add another if it gets worse or remains the same. Do this for four watering cycles, if this doesn't help, it probably is another chemical imbalance. This will also happen toward the end of flowering. At the end, I use it as a sign that they're ready, and I get out my microscope to check the trichs. None of this is scientific, just from my own experience, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Good luck!
 

buggs bunny

Well-Known Member
when you have high levels of nutes it blocks out all the ones needed for proper sucktion of an even flow of smooth growth everything gets out of wack
 

SuthernKumfert

Well-Known Member
Looks like nitrogen deficiency to me. Are the tips of the leaves yellow/brown on all leaves (i.e. not just ones close to the bulb) and brittle? If so, this is quite normal. I'm not a botanist, but I've heard that when the girls start to flower, they use up a lot of nitrogen reserves, as a result, this condition may appear. What I've done in the past is use a dose of nutes that contain a high concentration of nitrogen (check the label on your nutes and use the one that has the highest nitrogen concentration). In my experience, the leaves don't recover immediately, but they don't get worse. If you leave it unattended, you may see the problem spread further down the leaves and the leaves will crumble when you pinch them in your fingers. My advice would be to add one "serving" of nitrogen-rich nutes to the next watering, watch for a watering cycle, then add another if it gets worse or remains the same. Do this for four watering cycles, if this doesn't help, it probably is another chemical imbalance. This will also happen toward the end of flowering. At the end, I use it as a sign that they're ready, and I get out my microscope to check the trichs. None of this is scientific, just from my own experience, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Good luck!

ok that sounds good. i will do just that i will add some nutes along with the bloom that are high in nitrogen....if i dont do this do you think all the leaves will turn colors or will i just loose the leaves that are looking that way right now?
 

xavierinthenati

Active Member
ok that sounds good. i will do just that i will add some nutes along with the bloom that are high in nitrogen....if i dont do this do you think all the leaves will turn colors or will i just loose the leaves that are looking that way right now?
If it goes the way mine have in the past and you do what you're doing, all leaves will develop that and all leaves will get worse. You could continue your nute schedule and see if just the shock of flowering caused this, however, if all leaves go bad and it's NOT nitrogen deficiency, then you're further behind in diagnosing and solving the problem.

Avoid too much nutes, over watering - pick a plan and give it a week to 10 days before trying something else.

I would say follow my advice from above for ~two weeks, if things get worse, try something else. It takes a lot to kill a plant, you have time, just be patient.
 

SuthernKumfert

Well-Known Member
If it goes the way mine have in the past and you do what you're doing, all leaves will develop that and all leaves will get worse. You could continue your nute schedule and see if just the shock of flowering caused this, however, if all leaves go bad and it's NOT nitrogen deficiency, then you're further behind in diagnosing and solving the problem.

Avoid too much nutes, over watering - pick a plan and give it a week to 10 days before trying something else.

I would say follow my advice from above for ~two weeks, if things get worse, try something else. It takes a lot to kill a plant, you have time, just be patient.

so is there a nitrogen nute i can add or should i use some of my dyna grow nutes at 1/2 stregth along with the bloom nutes?
 

xavierinthenati

Active Member
so is there a nitrogen nute i can add or should i use some of my dyna grow nutes at 1/2 stregth along with the bloom nutes?
I use Fox Farm's Grow Big, Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom. I just added one serving (I think 2 teaspoons) of Grow Big on my nute day with the Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom. I do this any time I see the coloring on the leaf tips, and it solves the problem for me. I think Grow Big has 4% nitrogen. You might want to google Fox Farms Grow Big and see if the make up of that comes close to matching your nutes. If you plan on growing for a while, I recommend picking up a three pack of those I mentioned. I got them off Amazon for like fifty bucks - last forever (assuming you're not growing a ton of weed). I really noticed a difference vs. the stuff I picked up at the local garden store. Good luck!
 

SuthernKumfert

Well-Known Member
I use Fox Farm's Grow Big, Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom. I just added one serving (I think 2 teaspoons) of Grow Big on my nute day with the Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom. I do this any time I see the coloring on the leaf tips, and it solves the problem for me. I think Grow Big has 4% nitrogen. You might want to google Fox Farms Grow Big and see if the make up of that comes close to matching your nutes. If you plan on growing for a while, I recommend picking up a three pack of those I mentioned. I got them off Amazon for like fifty bucks - last forever (assuming you're not growing a ton of weed). I really noticed a difference vs. the stuff I picked up at the local garden store. Good luck!

ok i will add some of the dyna grow in with the dyna bloom nutes! thanks!
 
Top