3 cannabis cotyledons

missveeve

Member
WTF is this about. i got 5 feminized cheesy dick seeds. 1 of wich has 3 cotyledons. I have been reading up on this and every1 seems to have them turn into males. what is your opinion and or experience with this?
 

smokinrav

Well-Known Member
Did yours turn male or did you just read that?

They have to do some funky things with the genetics to make feminized seeds, all kinds of quirks are possible.
 

Cannabisworks

Active Member
Colchicine Information
Posted by PAXCO on March 21, 1999 at 11:41:04:

Polyploidy (favorable traits in Cannabis) has not been shown to occur naturally in Cannabis; however, it
may be induced artificially with colchicine treatments. Colchicine is a poi- sonous compound extracted
from the roots of certain Colchicum species; it inhibits chromosome segregation to daughter cells and
cell wall formation, resulting in larger than average daughter cells with multiple chromosome sets. The
studies of H. E. Warmke et al. (1942-1944) seem to indicate that colchicine raised drug levels in
Cannabis. It is unfortunate that Warmke was unaware of the actual psychoactive ingredients of Cannabis
and was therefore unable to extract THC. His crude acetone extract and archaic techniques of bioassay
using killifish and small freshwater crustaceans are far from conclusive. He was, however, able to produce
both triploid and tetraploid strains of Cannabis with up to twice the potency of dip- bid strains (in their
ability to kill small aquatic organisms). The aim of his research was to "produce a strain of hemp with
materially reduced marijuana content" and his results indicated that polyploidy raised the potency of
Cannabis without any apparent increase in fiber quality or yield. Warmke's work with polyploids shed
light on the nature of sexual determination in Cannabis. He also illus- trated that potency is genetically
determined by creating a lower potency strain of hemp through selective breeding with low potency
parents. More recent research by A. I. Zhatov (1979) with fiber Cannabis showed that some
economically valuable traits such as fiber quantity may be improved through polyploidy. Polyploids
require more water and are usually more sensitive to changes in environment. Vegetative growth cycles
are extended by up to 30-40% in polyploids. An extended vegetative period could delay the flowering of
polyploid drug strains and interfere with the formation of floral clusters. It would be difficult to determine if
canna- binoid levels had been raised by polyploidy if polyploid plants were not able to mature fully in the
favorable part of the season when cannabinoid production is promoted by plentiful light and warm
temperatures. Greenhouses and artificial lighting can be used to extend the season and test polyploid
strains. The height of tetraploid (4n) Cannabis in these exper- iments often exceeded the height of the
original diploid plants by 25-30%. Tetraploids were intensely colored, with dark green leaves and stems
and a well developed gross phenotype. Increased height and vigorous growth, as a rule, vanish in
subsequent generations. Tetraploid plants often revert back to the diploid condition, making it diffi- cult to
support tetraploid populations. Frequent tests are performed to determine if ploidy is changing. Triploid
(3n) strains were formed with great difficulty by crossing artificially created tetraploids (4n) with dip- bids
(2n). Triploids proved to be inferior to both diploids and tetraploids in many cases. De Pasquale et al.
(1979) conducted experiments with Cannabis which was treated with 0.25% and 0.50% solu- tions of
colchicine at the primary meristem seven days after generation. Treated plants were slightly taller and
possessed slightly larger leaves than the controls, Anoma- lies in leaf growth occurred in 20% and 39%,
respectively, of the surviving treated plants. In the first group (0.25%) cannabinoid levels were highest in
the plants without anomalies, and in the second group (0.50%) cannabinoid levels were highest in plants
with anomalies, Overall, treated plants showed a 166-250% increase in THC with respect to controls and
a decrease of CBD (30-33%) and CBN (39-65%). CBD (cannabidiol) and CBN (cannabinol) are
cannabinoids involved in the biosynthesis and degrada- tion of THC. THC levels in the control plants were
very low (less than 1%). Possibly colchicine or the resulting polyploidy interferes with cannabinoid
biogenesis to favor THC. In treated plants with deformed leaf lamina, 90% of the cells are tetraploid (4n
40) and 10% diploid (2n 20). In treated plants without deformed lamina a few cells are tetraploid and the
remainder are triploid or diploid. The transformation of diploid plants to the tetraploid level inevitably
results in the formation of a few plants with an unbalanced set of chromosomes (2n + 1, 2n - 1, etc.).
These plants are called aneuploids. Aneuploids are inferior to polyploids in every economic respect.
Aneu- ploid Cannabis is characterized by extremely small seeds. The weight of 1,000 seeds ranges from
7 to 9 grams (1/4 to 1/3 ounce). Under natural conditions diploid plants do not have such small seeds
and average 14-19 grams (1/2- 2/3 ounce) per 1,000 (Zhatov 1979). Once again, little emphasis has
been placed on the relationship between flower or resin production and poly- ploidy. Further research to
determine the effect of poly- ploidy on these and other economically valuable traits of Cannabis is
needed.
Colchicine is sold by laboratory supply houses, and breeders have used it to induce polyploldy in
Cannabis. However, colchicine is poisonous, so special care is exer- cised by the breeder in any use of
it. Many clandestine cultivators have started polyploid strains with colchicine. Except for changes in leaf
shape and phyllotaxy, no out- standing characteristics have developed in these strains and potency
seems unaffected. However, none of the strains have been examined to determine if they are actually
poly ploid or if they were merely treated with colchicine to no effect. Seed treatment is the most effective
and safest way to apply colchicine. * In this way, the entire plant growing from a colchicine-treated seed
could be polyploid and if any colchicine exists at the end of the growing season the amount would be
infinitesimal. Colchicine is nearly always lethal to Cannabis seeds, and in the treatment there is a very
fine line between polyploidy and death. In other words, if 100 viable seeds are treated with colchicine and
40 of them germinate it is unlikely that the treatment in- duced polyploidy in any of the survivors. On the
other hand, if 1,000 viable treated seeds give rise to 3 seedlings, the chances are better that they are
polyploid since the treatment killed all of the seeds but those three. It is still necessary to determine if
the offspring are actually poly- ploid by microscopic examination. The work of Menzel (1964) presents
us with a crude map of the chromosomes of Cannabis, Chromosomes 2-6 and 9 are distinguished by the
length of each arm. Chromo- some 1 is distinguished by a large knob on one end and a dark chromomere
1 micron from the knob. Chromosome 7 is extremely short and dense, and chromosome 8 is assumed to
be the sex chromosome. In the future, chromosome *The word "safest" is used here as a relative term.
Coichicine has received recent media attention as a dangerous poison and while these accounts are
probably a bit too lurid, the real dangers of expo- iure to coichicine have not been fully researched. The
possibility of bodily harm exists and this is multiplied when breeders inexperi- enced in handling toxins
use colchicine. Seed treatment might be safer than spraying a grown plant but the safest method of all is
to not use colchicine. mapping will enable us to picture the location of the genes influencing the
phenotype of Cannabis. This will enable geneticists to determine and manipulate the important
characteristics contained in the gene pool. For each trait the number of genes in control will be known,
which chromosomes carry them, and where they are located along those chromosomes.
 
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