30ish Yr old Columbian Gold Seed Sprouts. Do I Want it to be a Male or Female?

Make this a Male or a Female-30 yr old columbian Gold Sprout


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Cloner X

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Cuz im hear to tell you as a guy that smoked my first joint by 2nd grade, ive smoked pretty much every indica out there, and yes they can be very good, for 30 minutes to an hr. then you need more.
Really? The ladies in my basement would have you recanting that after a 2-3 hours. And the no bake cookies they like to help out with in the kitchen...yeah, those would have you too confused to even remember the argument after 3, 4, 5 hours! LMAO

Interesting thread. Sub'd.
 

Brick Top

New Member
oohhh i always do this when i see bricktop talk that old school weed bullshit... this is a pic of my sourkush i breed in 2001..... its pre 98 bubba kush female crossed to east coast sour diesel ibl.... not to be confused with dna's foney ass sourkush this is the real deal..... BETTER THEN ANYFUCKING THING THAT WAS EVER IN EXISTENCE IN THE 60'S-70'S.....
Just a little bit of history about the typical seedy commercial grade herb of the past .. not the highest grade available, just the typical seedy commercial grade Mexican .... as told by DJ Short.



Posted by DJ Short

First bag, Detroit, Spring 1971, “Mexican Flowertop” it was called. Smelled of cedar shavings and sweet hay, lightly floral—ten dollars for a three-fingered lid, B+ grade commercial of the day. Clumpy buds with seeds, fan leaves and stems and it was sticky.

First herb I’d ever smoked was A grade Colombian Gold about six-months prior, did not get high on it. Took me six tries before I’d ‘get off’. It was the Mexican Flowertop. Smoked a decent sized joint of it, two-paper Zig-Zag pregnant fatty—the kind with the very tapered ends—with a friend. As the rush came on, we stood and began to walk.

First thing that entered my mind was “the dentist’s office”—nitrous oxide. (Had a great dentist as a child, my mother worked for him, who was doing a study on anesthetizing children of whom I was a subject.) The whole concept of consciousness and the ability to alter it at will, safely, arose. The second thing that lividly crossed my mind was: “They lied to me!” (About herb.) Also wondered: “What else did they lie to me about?” Fumed over that indignation for a spell and walked to a nearby playground—the old-fashioned kind with long swings, giant teeter-totters and three-story monkey bars. Sat on the swing for about a half-hour digging on the pleasant spring day. Went home after awhile, straight for the kitchen, and really got into cooking!

One effect the Flowertop provided was this sense, when walking, of being shin-deep in a creek that is flowing in the opposite direction—like you could just lift your feet back and float or fly. Another was this distance illusion—I’d be walking, especially at night, and the next intersection was about a half-mile away. Staring at the distant signal light, it would seem to get farther away with each step. Others reported the same phenomenon, which would lead to giddy fits of laughter for some reason—on more than one occasion. Other commercial grade sativas of the early 70’s had similar effects.
The high grade was much, much better.
 

theexpress

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FYI boys... WeeGogs has the exact same avatar as theexpress. I'm not saying it couldn't be coincidence but the unparalleled negativity, random aggression, and lack of respect for others' threads is coincidentally dead on so fair warning. I'm blocking him for good measure anyway, who needs it. Wonder if I'm the first guy to block the same A-hole twice?
my man.... let me assure that i had this avitar first... i am not no fucking weegog or wtf ever you named... i am chitownsmoking.... aka chitown... aka the creator of the real sourkush... and just overall a cool ass motha fucka.....
 

theexpress

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Just a little bit of history about the typical seedy commercial grade herb of the past .. not the highest grade available, just the typical seedy commercial grade Mexican .... as told by DJ Short.





The high grade was much, much better.

yeah didnt you read my last post or so... i know the high grade shit was better then commercial grade imported shit... HERE IS MY POINT...... IT STILL WASNT CONSIDERD DANK TO ME..... IT WAS JUST SOME GLORIFED MIDS.... i want you to realize this isnt the 1960's anymore and we have insanely potant weed now readily available...... you should try some lol
 

theexpress

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First bag, Detroit, Spring 1971, “Mexican Flowertop” it was called. Smelled of cedar shavings and sweet hay, lightly floral—ten dollars for a three-fingered lid, B+ grade commercial of the day. Clumpy buds with seeds, fan leaves and stems and it was sticky.

First herb I’d ever smoked was A grade Colombian Gold about six-months prior, did not get high on it. Took me six tries before I’d ‘get off’. It was the Mexican Flowertop. Smoked a decent sized joint of it, two-paper Zig-Zag pregnant fatty—the kind with the very tapered ends—with a friend. As the rush came on, we stood and began to walk.

First thing that entered my mind was “the dentist’s office”—nitrous oxide. (Had a great dentist as a child, my mother worked for him, who was doing a study on anesthetizing children of whom I was a subject.) The whole concept of consciousness and the ability to alter it at will, safely, arose. The second thing that lividly crossed my mind was: “They lied to me!” (About herb.) Also wondered: “What else did they lie to me about?” Fumed over that indignation for a spell and walked to a nearby playground—the old-fashioned kind with long swings, giant teeter-totters and three-story monkey bars. Sat on the swing for about a half-hour digging on the pleasant spring day. Went home after awhile, straight for the kitchen, and really got into cooking!

One effect the Flowertop provided was this sense, when walking, of being shin-deep in a creek that is flowing in the opposite direction—like you could just lift your feet back and float or fly. Another was this distance illusion—I’d be walking, especially at night, and the next intersection was about a half-mile away. Staring at the distant signal light, it would seem to get farther away with each step. Others reported the same phenomenon, which would lead to giddy fits of laughter for some reason—on more than one occasion. Other commercial grade sativas of the early 70’s had similar effects.


lol look at the first paragraph!!!!! "clumpy buds with seeds and stems was considerd b plus commercial grade of the day".... bro i would laff at you soo hard if you came to me with some weed has described above.... lmmfao i wouldnt even smoke that caca...... b+ grade my ass.... today that would be like a D minus
 

boneheadbob

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I started smoking everyday in 71, quit in 93, started in 07 again.
Give me an old time sativa that makes your eyes bright red and everyone that looks at you knows you are higher then a kite. A little paranoid, a little mellow, the munchies and a little braindrain from contemplating about wheres all the tight pussy at.


Theexpress,
Remember me telling you about my chocolate plant?

Maybe when the dispensery opens here in AZ, I can get some sativa that puts my head right, untill then I will have to settle for the two different bagseed I am growing. They are looking good at day 28 12/12. Nice looking buds, two different types, both have skinny leaves, one is darker green, one is lime green and smells like chocolate. It has bright yellow buds that are wide and fat at the top like a cotton ball, whereas the other one the buds are crawling up the stems more "flat like"
A friend gave me a "pinapple" clone and the clone has larger leaves then these two bagseeds but they are not big like indica leaves.
 

theexpress

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I started smoking everyday in 71, quit in 93, started in 07 again.
Give me an old time sativa that makes your eyes bright red and everyone that looks at you knows you are higher then a kite. A little paranoid, a little mellow, the munchies and a little braindrain from contemplating about wheres all the tight pussy at.


Theexpress,
Remember me telling you about my chocolate plant?

Maybe when the dispensery opens here in AZ, I can get some sativa that puts my head right, untill then I will have to settle for the two different bagseed I am growing. They are looking good at day 28 12/12. Nice looking buds, two different types, both have skinny leaves, one is darker green, one is lime green and smells like chocolate. It has bright yellow buds that are wide and fat at the top like a cotton ball, whereas the other one the buds are crawling up the stems more "flat like"
A friend gave me a "pinapple" clone and the clone has larger leaves then these two bagseeds but they are not big like indica leaves.
i respect that all you older dudes like sativas.... really i do... i understand that it takes you back to "better times"... and brings back fond memories...... i have smoked the best brand name sativas...... the first day or so i smoke a top notch sativa i get why you guys like it sooo much... its def a good anti-depressent.... and most sativas are really good tasteing, and fresh smelling, and i dig the way they smoke evenly cuzz sativas are usually fluffier..... there usually much much easier on the old lungs to..... heres my beef though..... AFTER A WEEK OR SO OF SMOKING SATIVAS THEY DONT DO SHIT FOR ME ANYMORE... a slight buzzing around the eyes maybe..... its like a tease.... were indica keep fucking me up every time i light up!!!!! im not saying there isnt tolernce built up on indicas cuzz there is... but it is no were near has bad or has fast has the sativa tolerence builts up....
 

theexpress

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Just out of curiosity, what strains are you talking about and when you smoked them it was 1960-what or 1970-what?
lol....... its funny that you write like a paige of shit and i read it all before i start picking it apart...... but when i put like one paragraph that already answerd the question your asking and you dont read that.............
 

theexpress

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i wasnt even born untill the 80's lolol.... i smoked those strains in the 90's that was the last time they were available... my dudes brother would go down to el paso texas back in those days and drive up 30-40 kilos of shit at a time...... like i said most of it was mexican, but columbian shit still came up thre latin america and mexico to.... shit was cheap has fuck 400 bux a pound, and dudes brother was making something selling it for that much....... some of it was heavily seeded, some of it had lil to no seeds... some were lightly bricked, while others were bricked harder then a rock.... some of them were much better then others....... when the brand name shit came threw we knew it, we knew what it was and we did ask for it by name... cuzz you see at that point and time i didnt know what dank was... but now that i do.... let me tell you that all those strains you and i both mentioned were not dank!!!!!!
see here bricktop ^^^^
 

Brick Top

New Member
lol....... its funny that you write like a paige of shit and i read it all before i start picking it apart...... but when i put like one paragraph that already answerd the question your asking and you dont read that.............
I would call it more missed than that I just didn't read it. I normally have two or three windows going to sites like this and I go back and forth between them. When I come back to a thread on another site I do not always track back far enough to the last message I read and sometimes miss a few now and then because of it. Sorry if I asked you to tell me something you already told me.
 

SurfdOut

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Timmah- Good luck with your grow....what light period you running? Would love to see some pics of any other cannabis plants you are currently growing........

Chi-dawg what up with some seeds nigga? I won't drop them in the yard like KK.
 

SurfdOut

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BTW Timmah, I've got some free time this weekend, I'll be over to help ya find those Early Pearl seeds...
 

Brick Top

New Member
Originally Posted by theexpress
i wasnt even born untill the 80's lolol.... i smoked those strains in the 90's that was the last time they were available..
Regardless of what strains you may have been told you were sold and then smoked. The strains I talk about were almost impossible if not impossible to find in their pure form in the 90's.

As you put it; "heres my beef though" Since you were not even alive when the strains I talk about were pure and plentiful how can you believe you can be accurate comparing something that I can assure you was not the same that you smoked two decades or longer later to what I smoked?

People like you believe it is a nostalgia thing, or maybe even a trick of the memory making us believe certain strains were as or more potent than anything today and you say condescending things like; "i understand that it takes you back to "better times"" Well if you were not alive then and partaking in the same thing, there is in fact absolutely no way you can know for sure and all you have to go on is your own belief, your own opinion, and people like you refuse to accept my actual experiences.

Here is an example of how young people today refuse to accept certain things about the past and absolutely have to believe new current things are better. One of my friends had a later in life son and recently he bought his son a new 2011 Mustang GT 5.0. As hard as it will be for most here to believe I am like the cool hippie uncle to most of my friends kids. I was telling him about my old 1970 Dodge Challenger 440 Magnum 4-speed and how it was never beaten once in a street race and gave him a tip about leaving the line at a stop light. I said don't watch for your light to turn green, watch to see the crossing traffics light to turn red and then count to two and nail it ... because with most stop lights there is a three second delay between the one turning red and the other green. I said by the time you hit the gas and your car starts to move your light will be green and it will look like you have faster reflexes and your car is just quicker off the line. Hid dad did NOT appreciate me giving him that tip.

Well the kid then said something about how my old 440 might never have been beaten but how it would not stand a chance against cars like his and ones his friends have. He said none of those old "heavy metal" cars of the past were as fast as his, which is supposed to be able to turn a quarter mile in 13 seconds at 110.6 MPH.

I told him that he was wrong, that there were some old Detroit iron cars that would leave his car in the dust. He would not believe me, but he didn't know that the 1968 Dodge Hemi Dart and Plymouth Hemi Cuda would turn a quarter mile in 10.3 seconds at 130MPH and that a a 1970 Buick Stage 2 GS would turn high 10 second quarter miles at 130MPH or that a 1964 Dodge 426 Hemi would turn a 11.4 second quarter at 125 MPH or, to skip forward a few years, my 1970 Dodge Challenger 440, with the optional 6-pack instead of the standard 4-barrel carb, would turn a quarter mile in 13 seconds at 125 MPH ... all factory stock cars .. and that there were a bunch more that would beat, or equal his new car when it came to pure acceleration and speed in a quarter mile run.

If someone does not experience the exact same thing, the very same thing, then they never really know about it and anything they say about it is nothing more than opinion and personally held belief.

Borrow Mr. Peabody's Wayback Machine and bop back in time and grab some of what my brother in law shipped home from Vietnam and visit Panama and find the real true Panama Red that could take up to 22 weeks to finish and then buzz over to Africa and pick up some of the real Malawi Gold, and then go around and pick up some of the other strains I mentioned, in their pure form when they were at their best, smoke them, and then get back to me.

The closest I have ever come to getting as high off a modern strain was from a strain I would love to know the name of but the guy I get it from now and then will not tell what it is. The father of the college roommate of one of my friend's son is an entertainment attorney in LA. He represents a number of major stars, producers and directors, along with a few professional athletes and former professional athletes. He has gotten high since he was a kid, he smokes the same grade pot as his clients purchased from the same sources. When his son went to college he complained about the lack of quality of smoke so his dad kept him supplied with enough for him and his friends. Through my friend's son, I have purchased what he gets a number of times. One Christmas my oldest niece gave me an ounce of it. It is VERY potent pot and it does come close to the best of what I used to smoke in the late 60's and 70's, but it doesn't top it.

Since the late 60's I have smoked just about every strain imaginable and all of the most famous most killer weed there has been, right up until today. I have a comparative base that most today totally lack. I have experience with strains that many never had access to, let alone smoked or grew and smoked.

If any of you ever say the movie "Woodstock" you might remember the Arlo Guthrie song "Coming Into Las Angeles" with the chorus of:
Coming into Los Angeles Bringing in a couple of keys Don't touch my bags if you please Mister Customs Man
I had friends that did that, though not in suitcases to go through Customs with. One friend's father was an archeologist and my friend would go on digs if it would be in some area famous for a strain of pot and he would have a crate packed full and stamped with the name of the college his father was a professor for, and my friend would purchase it right from the farmer/grower for peanuts and we'd party like mad.

The father of two friends of mine, brothers, had a construction company, one that would build dams and long highway bridges and dig lone tunnels and they did a lot of work in Central and South America and they would visit the sites and sometimes work for a while with the crews. When all their equipment was shipped back they would have some packed with the best stuff the region offered, again purchasing it from the farmer/growers almost for pennies and like my other friend, they would at times virtually hand it out to their best friends.

This stuff was the Real McCoy, this stuff was pure, this stuff came before the era where the same farmers learned of heavier producing indicas and attempted to make crosses to increase their yields and destroyed what in some cases might have been 'The Holy Grail' that 'The Dutch Masters' have attempted to create for decades, and failed.

Until you, and others, have smoked the exact same strains from the same era, along with all the others I have mentioned, the most you have to go by is opinion, belief and conjecture. Like it or not .... that is an honest to goodness fact.
 

Jeffdt1966

Active Member
I admire your expierence with the generations of weed bricktop . I was born in the mid sixties so didnt really get to have any of the sixties weed or most of the seventies . By the time i was really paying attention to genetics it was mid 80's and everything seemed commercialized by then . I got to make a few trips to southern mexico in the mid 80's and the smoke we where getting there was just mindblowing .. I think now looking back that may have been end the stages of the pure sativas down there as you couldnt get any quanity of it because it was just personal grows for them - but they would offer to hook me up with all the commercial I could want .. very cheaply . Funny thing was they wouldnt sell me any of the good shit they grew .. they would just give me daily nugs in empty marlboro cig. packs ( good times )

Sadly most of those pure sativas probally took several hundreds of years of cultivation to make ... and probally died off with the old timers that grew it for personal as everything else went commercial for bigger profits . I would love to have some seed stock from some of those south of the border pure sativas ... but I'm not holding my breath ...
 

stjr2k

Member
Some of the new strains and hybrids are "as strong" as any of the CG, Oaxican, maui waui, etc. I smoked in the late 60's early 70's. But, most people who've not actually been to Thailand, don't know that Thai comes in different grades and I've never seen anything but the commercial grades stateside. I had the good fortune of visiting an oven called Nam Phong, not too far from Udorng (sp). During the months I was there I also got to smoke "Falling Rain" (two to three times as strong as Thai Stick, pre-rolled and professionally packaged like American cigarettes that looked almost exactly like a pack of Salem Lights). It was generally accepted that Falling Rain was Thai stick laced with opium (quite an experience). But since we're talking about weed, there is nobody, anywhere, that could smoke Thai stick Gold and get nothing from it after a few days. Believe what you want. :weed:
 
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