4 White Widow, 2 Mazar/Afghan, 1 Bubblegum - First grow with "good" seeds

I bought these seeds from Marijuana-Seeds.nl so they are not name brand seeds but are knock offs or F2 seeds of the real thing. I'm really hoping these are some good versions of the strains.

I'm vegging under a home built CFL fixture that has 21,000 lumen off 12 bulbs. It's a bit difficult to use but it really does get the lights right into the plants; nice and close.

So far I'm fairly happy with the seeds; not ecstatic but happy. The free seeds, the Mazar/Afghan, are pretty weak but they are growing so fuck it, I'll let 'em. I've got one of the white widows that has a purple phenotype; it's really cool, the bottoms of the leaves are purple.

Oh, and I only did 1 bubblegum because it was supposed to be a "Suck-and-See" with a DWC setup but I just couldn't bear to waste a good seed.

This is just over 2 weeks into veg.


I'm using a mix of 2 parts Fox Farm Ocean Forrest, 1 part vermiculite, and 1 part perlite and I think I'm actually underfeeding them as they look like they have a little nutrient deficiency. I've just started feeding them 1/4 strength organic nutrients (Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow) and I think I'll bump it up to 1/2 next time.

In a week they should be nicely rooted so I'll transplant them to 5 gallon containers using straight Fox Farm Ocean Forrest. I hope to make at least one of them a mother from each type but I know the odds are against me. Whatever the case as long as I get some female white widows I'll be happy.

Well they are growing like crazy so they will definitely be transplanted this weekend.

I've just started giving them nutes 1/4 strength and they seem to love it.

The White Widow that has the purple phenotype is amazing. It almost looks like a succulent it's so dense. It's lost a lot of its under leaf purple but it still has it on the trunk. I can tell it's not the normal reddish purple it's different; almost like a furry purple jacket. The plant is most definitely hirsute where most of my other plants are glabrous and only pubescent on the leaves closest to the buds where the THC bearing trichomes are and of course the buds themselves.


Group shot


White Widow - Purple Phenotype
You can see why my home made light is good for a few plants at a time, I can adjust it so I have a lot of light on each plant.


White Widow - Purple Phenotype, visible purple
Look at the stem, you can see the deep purple.

Well, they have out grown their plastic cup homes so have been transplanted into new homes for the next few weeks of veg. Basically long enough for me to find out if they are male or female by taking clones and 12/12'ing the clones.

Since this is my first crop of good seeds I plan on vegging them longer, like 1.5 months or even 2 months. I want them to be big bitches and I need to get enough clones off of them to make a new crop.

bad ass r they all female? why r u growing so many kind but so few each

I don't know how many are female at the moment. I split some 10 packs with a friend so thought I'd try to grow all of one of them and the 3 free seeds I got. One of those died and so did one of the white widows.

They are growing like crazy though, I should post a new picture, they are getting big, maybe one more month of veg and then to flower. I want to make sure they get a nice veg so I can cut off 4 clones from each plant.

that sites seeds are pretty legit from what I hear. I have a friend growing the same stuff you are and some orange bud from them. His plants are looking about like yours, only all of his white widows have this pink/purple hue almost all over. Looking good!

Yeah, I'm actually pretty surprised at how well these seeds are growing. I was ready to start pinch training but the plants already have thicker stalks than my bag seeds did. I think these have MUCH better genetics than I gave them credit for. Of course the proof is in the smoke so we'll have to see come Christmas time.

Here they are now in thier new home with their new 400W MH light.

Well I can say these guys LOVE their new light. Screw floros! LOL

Unfortunately I think I've already spotted two males. I've got two with tiny pre-flowers that look like balls. I'll wait and see of course.

What sucks is one is my only bubblegum I did in this run. The other is one of the mazar / afghan's so no big lose.

Looks great so far man keep us posted with pic updates! Good luck!

Tom

get those other ones out those cups and put them into bigger pots

wyteberrywidow said:

get those other ones out those cups and put them into bigger pots

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I will; when they are ready to be transplanted. And as soon as I can sex them the ones in the orange pots will go into 5 gallon pots so they can get some huge ass roots.

That's how I've read it should be done and has worked for 7 grows now. Plant in tiny pot first with very light soil or soil-less like Light Warrior. I use 1/2 Ocean Forest, 1/4 Perlite, 1/4 Vermiculite.

Then when they have become established in that medium you put them in a larger pot. I was going to just go straight to 5 gallon pots but I didn't have enough soil and that's a huge waste if you are just going to throw half of it away.

When they are sexed I will then move them to the 5 gallon pots and use those as smokable moms. By that I mean I always cut off the bottom 4 branches at least anyway so instead of just tossing those I use them as clones.

When those clones are moved to veg and become big enough I'll take their bottom 4 branches and use those as clones. Of course I won't need them all as I'll be taking more clones than I need at first. Since I've never cloned I figured I need to do a lot so I can learn and if I fail, learn from that.

Once I start using clones and know I have all females I will of course just go straight to 3 gallon containers. That seems to be the optimal size for my conditions.

good thinking with the cloning because once you do it,it said to be easy

Oh, and transplanting them in larger and larger pots is supposed to allow the root system to fully utilize the soil in each pot before being able to move on to new soil. So this should give you a better, more evenly distributed root system.

yeah but u can shock your plant each time u want to transplant as little as possible

oh man i didnt know we were allowed to post in here haha.

thats beat that one of the mazar/afghans are male and the bubblegum. thats more beat about the bubblegum though. im keepin my fingers crossed that the last mazar/afghan is female!

Yeah, I've got another 4 bubblegums going now, they are the ones in the solo cups.

Hey Kludge, can you post more pics of how your babies are doing. =)

Kludge said:

Yeah, I've got another 4 bubblegums going now, they are the ones in the solo cups.

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nice nice! hope for females! bubblegum is mmm mmm good. what ones are the mazar/afghan ones again?

Well, I definitely have two males, I'm going to give them 2 more days but it's pretty clear they are male.

The good news is I've got at least 3 female White Widows and the fourth looks like it's got a female pre-flower but it's too early to tell. Best of all the most healthy plant is one that's showing female.

I still can't sex the other Mazar / Afghan so I'm hoping that's a good sign.