$400 to light a 4x4
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athomegrowing
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You should provide a link, instead of asking me to do work to prove your opinion. If you're saying in general Amazon is shitty, ok. I don't care, I care about getting what I need as soon as possible, and for kind of cheap. Society largely accepts shady tactics when it benefits them, i'm no exception.
athomegrowing
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I'd like you to either keep your contributions on topic, or provide sources for your random claims.
swedsteven
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Good now use ur smart phone use app lux meter to hit 50 000lux to 60 000max
850 watts total with the cob u add . Did u take 3000k
850 watts total with the cob u add . Did u take 3000k
athomegrowing
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I have a real lux meter, I'll check what the total comes out to tomorrow when the lights arrive. I'm near 20k with the "2,000" watt led I have (very close underneath). I'm hoping these will boost me up a little, but I don't have high hopes. I did order the 3000k. How many lux do you think these two lights would provide?
swedsteven
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Your 2000w are 350 true watts
50 000 lux at the canopy no total
They are 75 watts cob at 18 inch u could cover 1,5 feet by 1,5 feet they are strong light
DancesWithWeeds
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I have one of those LED's from Amazon. It's a King 3x 900w. Can't say I'm real happy with it. I didn't do well with it last year, but I think that could have been my fault. I just put some plants under it a couple of weeks ago and they look OK.
If you need a light in a hurry one of these would probably work for you. $230. Whether it's a waste of money or a life saver depends on how bad you need it now. I think those who have been around for a long time call these things "Blupral". That's probably misspelled but they don't seem to show much respect for them. That makes me think before I try to cut any more corners I should maybe save my $$$'s and do what they have found works best. At 79 years old I can't afford to waste time or money reinventing what they already know.
There are things that can be done for less than what the "big boys" spend, but I don't think lighting is one of them.
I wouldn't even be using mine right now except I'm doing some experimenting with LST and cloning.
If you need a light in a hurry one of these would probably work for you. $230. Whether it's a waste of money or a life saver depends on how bad you need it now. I think those who have been around for a long time call these things "Blupral". That's probably misspelled but they don't seem to show much respect for them. That makes me think before I try to cut any more corners I should maybe save my $$$'s and do what they have found works best. At 79 years old I can't afford to waste time or money reinventing what they already know.
There are things that can be done for less than what the "big boys" spend, but I don't think lighting is one of them.
I wouldn't even be using mine right now except I'm doing some experimenting with LST and cloning.
DancesWithWeeds
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I don't much experience with lights, but I have one that I bought last year. I think that light cured me from wanting to grow inside.
If you spend however much on shit lights it just makes your good lights cost that much more when you finally get then.
Weigh it out. You can spend your money once and get what you want or twice and get what you want with a piece of junk thrown back into the corner.
Your choice: Get handy or pay someone else to do it. That is really the bottom line on price of lights. I don't usually post hard opinions on forums but I wouldn't waste MY money AGAIN those cheep-ass Chinese lights. You'll probably be disappointed and have to live with it or spend more to get what you want.
As I said before, people that grow indoors and have good crops usually have good equipment. You be can short on a some things, but not light. The first thing my God did was create light. That should tell you something.
Remember, you are you are god to your plants (with a small "g"). Your plants only have what you give them.
swedsteven
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Rapid LED 75W CREE CXB3590 COB LED Grow Light Fixture (3500K)
He buy 2 units they are good cob ... from amazon
He buy 2 units they are good cob ... from amazon
DancesWithWeeds
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The CREE COB's should be OK, I've read about them. I'm talking about the cheap China lights that look fancy and have convincing ads. Kind of like those Bell and Howell TacVisors they advertise on the tube. PURE SHIT!!! I fell for that, too.
DancesWithWeeds
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Actually, my grow room has the King 900w LED and two 4-tube T5's. With that it's serving my purpose. An experiment with a little smoke at the end.
athomegrowing
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If I disable my 2x2 veg tent, I would then have: 2,000 watt LED, 600W LED, and 2 75W cobs. I think I may just do that, I could probably grow a beast in the 4x4 then.
Glad to see you are still growing. Keep going.
INF Flux
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lm301b or lm561c diodes, if the product you are looking at doesn't use one or the other, you aren't spending wisely.
Rapid led
Chilled led
Timber
HLG
Pacific light concepts
Not as expensive as one would think to get legit gear.
Rapid led
Chilled led
Timber
HLG
Pacific light concepts
Not as expensive as one would think to get legit gear.
What is actual wattage? 2000w led doesn't sound realistic.
DancesWithWeeds
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I'm just getting started. Okla just became legal. I tried a few times in a low dollar grow room but now I can grow outside where things are supposed to grow. Right now I'm doing one mainlined plant with 8 mains. That's three toppings. Two clones taken from the second node and two more taken from the second topping. Two of the clones look symmetrical enough to mainline. We'll see. Just topped them this week.
You have a big assortment of lights. That sounds like a lot for a 4x4.
athomegrowing
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@swedsteven said: "Your 2000w are 350 true watts"
I had a bit of disposable income, and upsized as my plants progressed. I threw away a few lights already, 18W gooseneck, 80W ufo. I enjoyed going through the stages, and figuring it out. Some folks complain about wasted cash but I break even if you know what I mean.
athomegrowing
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Have to fix the rotation tomorrow, the lights go off in a few mins for the day. Thanks folks.
