Afgan King
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Eh honestly I might not even touch em just drop day temps to 65 night temps already at 54 so these mites hate life with this 35% rh too lol
4000w 16 plant grow
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ttystikk
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What are friends for?
ttystikk
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You know mites thrive in low RH conditions, right?
Afgan King
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I've heard the opposite from multiple master growers especially when coupled with colder temperatures. Mites will adjust to all types of environments but love 78-85 and 50-60% humidity from everything I been told. I've heard they like really dry environment as long as the heat is there other wise they supposedly hate it. Gotta say for having them for multiple weeks I have almost no damage and never see them
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Dr. Who
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It's use is quite low in application rates and in application. A simple light misting of the top of the leaves is enough....Due to it's not really toxic to human factor.....I have gone as far as 5 weeks in. Haven't had to later (Knock wood). I would guess that if your not worried about causing any moisture problems....6 would be about it. I mean it takes 5 -7 days to be effective. Half life is dependent on conditions. Plenty of available moisture and lower RH makes for higher transpiration. That decreases the half life of it. So most of our growing style will be running on lowering concentrations quicker then outdoor testing of the Forbid provided. Indoor testing was limited to higher RH factors to mimic the outdoor use.... half lives would most likely start around 14 days then - My guess from given variables listed in testing..
Up to 6 weeks....if your not mold worried. This would be to stop an advancing or longer term problem. I mean this kills them dead, and only once have I had to do a second application.....I suspect stray's not on the plant as the reinfection vector.
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Dr. Who
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Mmmm nice! Super hot oil sprayed on my smoke - close to harvest. Got to spray the whole plant, be sure it's covered everywhere...and then start to worry about mold? Find any taste effects? Hate to be trimming and touch my eye....Whats the half life on capsaicin oils?
Sorry, don't get fried at the sarcastic tone.....I don't spray oils or "flavors" (Cinn, thyme - etc) on mine....Just like you don't prefer what I use.
I did not take my road to choose lightly!
I took the time to really research them before deciding if they would be used! I did not choose Avid or Floromite = toxic to humans!
You do know they are finding that Neem is far more toxic then they first thought, or so I'm hearing from preliminary reports.
NOT implying you should have yours! Just saying, ok?
DankBudzzz
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I'm still battling mites months later, I made some habanero spray and it worked great until the next round of eggs hatched tried it for a month but they always came back. I tried two different insecticidal but doesn't work on eggs....hot shots pest strips is the only thing that worked fir me until I tossed it after a month and more eggs hatched. I'm just gonna keep some pest strips on hand until the summer when I can clean the tent out well and bomb it.Mmmm nice! Super hot oil sprayed on my smoke - close to harvest. Got to spray the whole plant, be sure it's covered everywhere...and then start to worry about mold? Find any taste effects? Hate to be trimming and touch my eye....Whats the half life on capsaicin oils?
Sorry, don't get fried at the sarcastic tone.....I don't spray oils or "flavors" (Cinn, thyme - etc) on mine....Just like you don't prefer what I use.
I did not take my road to choose lightly!
I took the time to really research them before deciding if they would be used! I did not choose Avid or Floromite = toxic to humans!
You do know they are finding that Neem is far more toxic then they first thought, or so I'm hearing from preliminary reports.
NOT implying you should have yours! Just saying, ok?
ttystikk
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Your problem here can be described as a failure to follow up correctly; when battling an active mite infestation, you MUST spray every 4 days or more often, for at least 2 weeks. What kills eggs isn't the sauce used, it's the life cycle interruption achieved by killing immature stages before they can lay more eggs.
ttystikk
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Fascinating stuff here.
Afgan King
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Whole reason I'm contemplating using nothing but hoping on some lady bugs. I can't effect my weeds taste and that's my main concern. These mites ain't shit they obviously hate my conditions as they haven't gotten more and more infestedMmmm nice! Super hot oil sprayed on my smoke - close to harvest. Got to spray the whole plant, be sure it's covered everywhere...and then start to worry about mold? Find any taste effects? Hate to be trimming and touch my eye....Whats the half life on capsaicin oils?
Sorry, don't get fried at the sarcastic tone.....I don't spray oils or "flavors" (Cinn, thyme - etc) on mine....Just like you don't prefer what I use.
I did not take my road to choose lightly!
I took the time to really research them before deciding if they would be used! I did not choose Avid or Floromite = toxic to humans!
You do know they are finding that Neem is far more toxic then they first thought, or so I'm hearing from preliminary reports.
NOT implying you should have yours! Just saying, ok?
Dr. Who
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LOL, last time I said that....I had to discover 4bid.
Not that it'll happen to you! I just won't say shit like that anymore.
Afgan King
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Oh I'll use the fuck out of 4bid lol I'm just gonna try and gut it out these last 9 days and keep defoliating anything unhealthy keep temps low and hope for the best. 4bid already been sprayed on my day 17 stuff lol avid on moms and clonesLOL, last time I said that....I had to discover 4bid.
Not that it'll happen to you! I just won't say shit like that anymore.
bassman999
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I have all 3, and am glad for the clarification.
I have some damage on some leaves, but it never gets worse, and doesnt look like mite damage, like holes in leaves and yellow patches like if I skinned my knees. I think it might be pincher bugs?? I see those in my house ALL the time.
I have some damage on some leaves, but it never gets worse, and doesnt look like mite damage, like holes in leaves and yellow patches like if I skinned my knees. I think it might be pincher bugs?? I see those in my house ALL the time.
Vnsmkr
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Hmm, well no I didnt specify when I would spray it until, but basically if you have a good PM program you won't need any of this shit, but in case I do I go with the chili spray few weeks into flower. I wouldnt spray anything on my flowers that late ever....And I wasnt knocking you for your choice, I was just giving another choice...Mmmm nice! Super hot oil sprayed on my smoke - close to harvest. Got to spray the whole plant, be sure it's covered everywhere...and then start to worry about mold? Find any taste effects? Hate to be trimming and touch my eye....Whats the half life on capsaicin oils?
Sorry, don't get fried at the sarcastic tone.....I don't spray oils or "flavors" (Cinn, thyme - etc) on mine....Just like you don't prefer what I use.
I did not take my road to choose lightly!
I took the time to really research them before deciding if they would be used! I did not choose Avid or Floromite = toxic to humans!
You do know they are finding that Neem is far more toxic then they first thought, or so I'm hearing from preliminary reports.
NOT implying you should have yours! Just saying, ok?
Dr. Who
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I was kinda just pock'in fun at ya! No harm, no foul!
I don't care for oils of whatever though.
We each have our choices and that's a good thing!
Peace
thenotsoesoteric
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I have have good luck with just neem oil in eliminating mites from clones and smaller plants. I would dip each clone and small plant in 5 gal bucket of neem/water every 3 days for a 2 weeks. I would also bomb the room with pyrethrum. I used to get TR brand pyrethrum bombs but they cut the active ingredient by more than half due to FDA regulations. As a result the bombs now suck.
That's the only way I've ever gotten mites, clones...
I know hindsight is 20/20 but isolation and dipping clones for a week or two will help avoid this scenario in the future. Hope you get a handle on it and it doesn't hinder you too terribly.
That's the only way I've ever gotten mites, clones...
I know hindsight is 20/20 but isolation and dipping clones for a week or two will help avoid this scenario in the future. Hope you get a handle on it and it doesn't hinder you too terribly.
bassman999
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The dipping when young is a good way and I used to always do that.
At the very least I still wash my clones under the faucet.
A bottle of neem lasts a long time. I have the 32 oz and almost half full after 4 yrs
Afgan King
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Anyone use shilajit for cloning? Heard great results like 5-7 days guaranteed and it's all natural so I picked some up and started. A lil bit less than clonex but think is gonna last longer