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some purple widow

BigSkyBudTHC said:

some purple widow

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Jesus. I have never sson buds such a dark color. Is there any close-ups of that?

I can't hardly believe that. Do you have some pics of that flowering in you grow room or is this your story and your sticking to it?

ive had bud that color before.. tasted awefull, was so hard 2 tell that it was even weed. maybe yours is different tho.

yea that doesn't look very tempting to me, different that's for sure.....I hope my blue widdow don't come out like that.

I just finished some Querkle, Jillybean, Island Sweet Skunk, Nebula and sour diesel all under one 400. Ended up with a good amount of frosted tasty meds. Fell in love with Jillybean.

OB Cron Kenobi said:

I feel like the majority of you wont believe my claim...

But using just my 400 watt HPS and and a 6 bulb four foot T5 I yielded 10 ounces of buds, 1 ounce of hash buds, and nearly an ounce of cooking trim of of ONE Hawaiian Snow.

In a room with 4 plants- 2 that got runted by the monster landrace sativas that sat next to them (the runts yielded 19 grams and 33) and my Hawaiian Snow yielded the 10 ounces of bone dry (way too crispy as I was out of town when drying) and my Neville's Haze that just got cut and looks like it will shatter the record set my the Snow (Guessing 13 ounces).

So for my 4 plant grow under a 400 watt HPS and 6 bulb 4 foot long T5 I yielded an estimated 25 ounces. I will post the weight of the Neville's when it is done drying.

I should mention that I vegged them for 5 weeks to about 2.5-3 feet tall and flowered the snow for 17-18 weeks and the Neville's for 23 weeks. Absurdly long flowering times I know.... During those long flowering weeks I frequently bitched... But with yields like this I'm not complaining.

I should also add that for the last 4 weeks of the Neville's I added another 400 watt hps and used T8's for side lighting.

Also I did not use Co2, I used nearly the entire Advanced line and some supplementals that I've found and stuck with through the years.

Definitely my personal best... Beating the G a watt measure.

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Hey OB. Perfectly believable results for a single 400wHPS in my opinion. But still...

I'm a scrogger that gets similar results (14 oz every 2 months off 2 plants...but staggered so that I get 7oz per plant that I harvest once a month). I'm a coco grower so I utilize the Canna line of nutes and some other supplements. I may need to look into Advanced though if they can net these types of yields. Yowser!

Can you please give more details about your grow. What was your avg temp range? Is your 400w in a cool tube or air cooled hood? What medium you using (hydro, soil, coco, hempy)? You must've topped or lst'd or supercropped, right? If so, when and how many times while in veg did you do this? Did you use Gravity? If not, try it out. My yield (or weight rather) increases about 20% with that stuff.

It sounds like we are probably working off of the same GHS mixed seed pack. I have yet to touch my Hawaiian Snow and Neville's Haze and I am thrilled to hear that they can produce like this under the right circumstances.

It looks like you don't have any pics of your set up which is cool but if you have any I would be greatly appreciative to see your general set up.

Well done sir.

-Butters

I'm sorry, as a caregiver- I don't have permission to bring camera's to the house. It was something we flirted with the first go around and we really didn't see the bennefit and she believes its in her best interest.

At this point the 10oz of snow is jarred and my guess at the 12-13 oz of Nevilles has all been cut down and is hanging stem by stem, so I wouldn't even be able to prove its just one anyway.

But my point wasn't to make some bold statement and proclaim myself a master grower. I've been using this site for nearly two years, and if you've read anything I've written then you would know I have been quite humble and modest.

My point was, however, to share with the 400club just what can be done using only a 400 and a 6 bulb 4 foot T-5, and then for the last 5 weeks the two 400's.

I would contend that I was successful because of the fact that I was patient. I would ask those of you who have said you do not believe me, if you have ever grown a 100% landrace sativa strain? And if you have, were you patient enough to give them the 17-22 weeks it takes to fully ripen?

I can tell you from reading journals on this site and others that many give up on these strains do to a lack of patience. It was not easy for me to stick with, I debated the early chop just to get the next ones in nearly every week. But I can assure you that the 10oz off a single hawaaiin snow is real. And that's 10oz of bud buds, not popcorn and not trim.

I will post on here the final weight of my Neville's when it has finished drying. I may be wrong and it may be less than 12-13 predicted. However it doesn't look that way and I am pretty good at converting my wets to dry having predicted 8.5 for the snow.

Again, I don't need your compliments- or your doubts. But if you have grown a landrace sativa and flowered for as long as I had to, I'd love to hear if you had similar results.


OK- now to address some of the environmental questions posed.

I grew 2 plants each in 12 gallon DWC rez's. I had one pure gold freebie from attitude that got dwarfed by the landrace monster ladies and only gave a quarter or so. Another Hawaain snow that put out 33gms and was stunted by the lack of space due to its neighboring monster snow lady- who put out 10oz. And finally a neville's haze (the one I am predicting 12-13 on. The rootmass filled 2/3 of the rez and was super dense. I'm lucky it didn't plug my air stones.

My temps range from 65 at night to 75 in the day. Basement conditions. Humidity hovers right around 50-60 in flower room. PH is balanced daily at 5.5. I follow advanced nutrients calculator and schedule on their website (so convienent).

I did top both of the moster ladies. And while I did not do a screen because these are 6.5 foot tall ladies, I did constantly bend them in different directions. It was honestly a constant battle. Sometimes I would bend them and hang weights to keep them there, other times tie them to opposing branches. But doing everything I could do to keep an even 4.5 foot high canopy with 6.5 foot plants. Again, it was a serious battle. Especially for the ridiculously long flowering period that I had to manage.

Again, I do not run Co2. I did use aircooled hoods. Currently 2 400watters in euro hoods. But the second 400 watter was only added in the last 5 weeks and after the 10oz snow came down. I should add that I had the T5 6 bulb 4 foot floro, 2 2bulb T8's hanging on the side wall to get lower growth (seriously worked). As well as cfl's scattered underneath them.

My room is 4x5 and has a 424 cfm inline fan and carbon scrubber, and I use a box fan to draw intake.

For those who are curious I will list all my nutrients and supplements to the best of my knowledge- I am not at the place right now but if I forget anything I will add it with the dry weight of the neville's when it is finished.

Nutrients and supplements:
Advanced Nutrients (AN) Sensi Grow A+B
AN Sensi Bloom A+B
AN Trantula
AN Pirhana
AN Voodo juice
AN Overdrive
AN Budcandy
AN Big Bud
AN Bud Blood
AN sensizym
Fox Farm (FF) Open Seasame
FF Beastie Bloomz
FF Cha Ching
Dyna Grow Protek
Dark Energy
Humboldt County (HC) Bushmaster
HC Gravity
HC purple maxx
Hygrozym (sensizym ran out and advanced isn't sold round me)
Botnicare Hydroclear or Hydroguard I'm forgetting- nutrient salt leacher.
Technaflora pH up/down
Earth Nector 2 part tea

26 products- that is crazy. I did that list as much for myself as for others, I never realized how much I used. But with 17 and 22 week flowering times I was able to go through a variety of different products.

Any other question I either forgot to address or that have popped up into your mind- feel free to shoot at me in a msg or on this thread (although this can move quite fast sometimes and I am not on daily, so preferably msg).

Again, I am not making attempts to brag. If I would have cared to brag I would have snuck a camera in and posted pictures, but that would be disrespectful and unethical. I am not looking for a few oohhhs and ahhhs but rather related experiences and direct questions.

For those of you who do believe me, cool. For those of you who don't, its all good- I'm sitting on more jars than I've ever thought.

Integra, I'd like to add that I am scribed to your journal and your set up is far more scientific and professional. But you also don't seem to have much experience with landrace sativa's. I've heard of outdoor landraces putting out 100oz. So 13 seems reasonable if done well indoors. You should try it.

Yeah, you're right. Never grew any sativas. The closest I got was my widow, and 12 week flowers on that were trying my patience enough. Im glad you got those numbers. I try to encourage the use of 400w light to all of the people it would be an upgrade for as well. They really do work great. Im sure the second one for 5 weeks really helped the nellyvile pack on some extra weight to. Good grow, i believe you enough just by your info on the grow, just wish I could see some pics, but i understand if thats not possible. Obviously some people are more parinoid than others.

Integra21 said:

Jesus. I have never sson buds such a dark color. Is there any close-ups of that?

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I'm not sure if I would want to smoke that. That stuff looks like it would fuck up my taste buds for the rest of the evening. I'd have to watch someone else hit it first & look at their facial expression when they exhale & then tell me it tastes awesome. The stuff also looks like it would be hard to give away to even someone who is jonzing.. Now on the other hand if it tastes good & is kick ass. Friends of mine would be talking about that weed for the rest of their lives.

i love my single fuckin 400...8 zips minimum every 2 months for me...but im changin it up

400 is so cool (literally..), economical, productive, stealthy... and produces great nug.

Here's my "first wave" of chopping on my Bubblelicious at 9 weeks; gonna take a couple more colas today, then chill til the weekend. The big top colas should be ready by then.

The dried bud was an early sample from about a week ago; the way she hardened and smoked convinced me to start harvesting. The whole plant is in the back of the last pic, from about a week ago.

hey man, I'm not putting down your grow, it's beautiful but I was wondering why the buds look so airy? Is that the strain?

This two clones from Nirvana's B-52.

I normally don't post photos, but here is my last indoor ak48 from seed which I started flowering on the 1st of march. I also didn't start using the 400watter on it until day 15 of flowering.



I've got another ak48 outside thats been flowering since the 11th of march & I have 3 clones in veg. Looks like I get to order more seeds very soon

She's a beast mookie, nice work
What lights were you using before you got the 400w?

ORECAL said:

this is my favorite

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Great post! It's very nice and userful. Thank you so much for your post.

i knew u would post here one day MOOKIE B!! lol. NICE looking girl u got!

heres my girl right now, im adding in some ATAMI's bloombastic, so get a look of the before. see if it goes well.

(4th Week flowering)

first grow ever - barney's farm LSD - flowering day 4. Solarfarm sunburst 400W convertible ballast



my setup, and the girls at 1 week:

FuZZyBUDz said:

i knew u would post here one day MOOKIE B!! lol. NICE looking girl u got!

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Thanks Fuzzy B!!
Yours is looking good too my man. I'll be happy to get this 4th week over with. My favorite weeks of flowering is 5-7. Weeks 8-9 are the longest. I sorta hate the marketing of ak48 "Will be ready as early as 48 days of flowering under right conditions" My first time growing this strain I chopped it down on day 49. It had a nice zing high which would last for hours. My second one I chopped on day 63 & I became lethargic. Looks like I'm going to chop at day 63 again