400w Club-Show Off Your 400w Pride And Joy

rlourens

rlourens

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Back with my 400 HPS Grow.

14 Weeks, White Widow Max Aurora Indica and Medi bud. 29 Days into 12/12.

Feeding Fox Farm Nutes every watering. As per bottle instructions. They seem to be eatin' it up!!!bongsmilie

Any comments....;-)
 
litljohn

litljohn

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heres my 400 watt grow.The 2 in the dirt are super skunk and about 2 1/2 weeks budding.the 3 that are in the home made ebb and flow hydro system is pinneapple express that are 1 week budding.i love hydro so much,the 2 in the dirt are my last ones and im stikin with hydro.
 

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groputillor

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OB Cron Kenobi said:
But regardless of believers. Fact is, i pulled over 28 oz off of 4 plants in a 4x5 room with only 400(s) and T5's.

It can be done. Shattered the G a watt measure. I'm stoked.
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How many 400 watters and how many watts of T5s?

How long did you veg for?

How tall were the plants when flipped?

How much of it, if any, is that poopy airbud that grows below where the good light is? The stuff you'd be sorta bummed to find in a bag you payed for.
 
groputillor

groputillor

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Harvested again from a few places and thought I'd share some observations I made. I had been endorsing using bioterra plus and pearlite only, but I can see now that the FF Ocean Forest + extra pearlite definitely gave a better yeild. I'm gonna do FFOF+Bioterra+Pearlite on upcoming projects. More good stuff in the FF (that you can get other ways) but the Bio gets plenty of air. I don't think the FF powders were really worth the money and it looks like MOAB is the same stuff almost for like a tenth the price. I lost some production time by using the powders wrong, too, not boosting cal mag. Just thought I'd share what I learned recently. Didn't take a lot of photos toward the end but everything looks and smells great, with the exception of Sour Grapes which was a disappointment, knowing the genetics - sour deisel, chemdog, and purple elephant. Don't grow that shit it's a waste of space.

Prob the wrong place to ask, but who knows what strains grow great in a sea of green - like Blue Dream does.
 

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HoLE

HoLE

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even though I've upgraded to a 600,,,,I still love to come back on all the current 400 watters and see what ya all doin,,,seen some nice shit here for a 400,,get ready for reps
 
dangledo

dangledo

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Got a kushage and a widow, that just went to flower. Using 400 watt chrome dome, gonna add another when they fill out from stretch. Using advanced, connoisseur a+b, and bud blood to start them off. Have several other supplements and additives. Fed lots of voodoo and great white, and bud candy for root and veg. Doin some supercrop/lollipop with a little lst. Just bought a small t5 set up with a secret jardin 2X2 for seed starting and pre transplants, goin for a small perpetual of sort. and a few bud porn pics from last grow to make this worth reading.

Check out the leaf in my hand, looks like two, but is one. Two of my widows have done the same thing. +rep to anyone who can identify or who knows what the problem maybe:leaf:
 

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hardroc

hardroc

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April 4th,

Here's my Orange Mass (hermi) at 4 weeks and 1 day since showing sex, there's no bananas but got seeds on the bottem buds.
Still gonna grow it out and see what I get. Shitty deal, but that's the way she goes sometimes. My only 1 flowering too.............
 
Single White Pistol

Single White Pistol

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Week 7. Wondering why the size isn't there. These are no bigger than my thumb.

Fox Farm Nutes with Grotek Monster Bloom, Grape Sweet, Molasses, and Superthrive. All this in every other watering.

Gonna start flush next week. Think they'll get any bigger? My 400w is has been like 8 to 10 inches off the tops the whole time.
 

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OB Cron Kenobi

OB Cron Kenobi

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Sorry Butters, I missed your post a while back on pg. 159 so i'll address that first. you asked

":shock:.......:o.......:clap::clap::clap::clap::cl ap:

Well done again sir! And those sound like some really tasty treats you made as well.

How was the smell of the Nevilles Haze and Hawaiian Snow when they were flowering (I realize that it probably would be tough to know given that you have the multiple strains going at the same time)?

Also, given that the 400w is only going to penetrate so far in the grow space, how did you set up those T5's (I think) that you were using to get light to the lower parts of the flowering plant? Was there even growth on the lower parts or were you cutting out some of the underbrush (ie lollipopping)?

I'm thinking what you're pulling off of these is going to last you through those long flowering times for the next grows. :wink:

I saw the previous post you made listing all of the nutes you used. Holy sh*t!!! :shock: How did you balance all of those nutes? I practically burn the crap outta mine when I'm just using 5 nutes.

-Butters :bigjoint:"

Very little smell concerns with these strains. I have a carbon filter of course, but even when entering the room it wasn't over powering. Landrace sativa's aren't as heavy smelling in my experience, compared to indica varities with the skunkier smell. It was an earthy planty smell but not a dank overpowering smell.


The 400's were hung over it. The snow was only grown with 1 for 17 weeks, and then when i cut that, and was able to actually get into my room I installed a second 400 that the Nevilles got for an additional 5 weeks. The T5's I linked together side by side and hung them as wall. So there was 6 T5 bulbs hitting the plant from the side, and two t-8's along the very bottom. THIS WAS VERY EFFICENT. I would attribute as much as 50% of my harvest to these lights. Because 400's dont have the penetration, it allowed me to stack the buds- I had branches that yielded as much as past plants have. It was crazy. They formed from the bottom up, instead of the top down. And for landrace sativa's thats incredibly important, as they tend to be fluffy. And my snow is rock hard! dense nugs!

As far as balancing the nearly 30 different nutes- I don't use them all at once. Because they are such long flowering times I can use multiple varieties of the same types of nutes. For instance, advanced nutrients Bud blood and Fox farm open sesame both have the same application: early flowering to encourage bud sites to develop. Because I had 17 and 22-23 weeks to flower I was able to use each of these, alternating different nutes. I also think this contributed to my yields. I used an EC/ pH meter daily and kept them inline. Never once burnt them. Deficiency free. No herms. No seeds.


Now for the next question:

groputillor said:
How many 400 watters and how many watts of T5s?

How long did you veg for?

How tall were the plants when flipped?

How much of it, if any, is that poopy airbud that grows below where the good light is? The stuff you'd be sorta bummed to find in a bag you payed for.
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I vegged for 5-6 weeks. I used bushmaster to keep them shorter- it worked. I applied it at about 3.5 feet, 4 weeks vegging, and then gave them some time to recover from it- about a week. Then switched to flowering at about 4 feet tall and they didnt explode like they could have. These plants are capable of 12 feet easy... They ended up at about 6 feet tall, but i had them so bent and mangled that they stood around 5 feet at finish- but they were about 5 feet wide as well.

Like I said- I don't count the fluff in my final weight. When I say the snow was 10 oz and the Neville's was 16 oz that is the bone dry, steamless, and popcorn-less bud. only the nuggets. I got about 2 oz of fluff of of each and about 2 oz of leaf from each of em. I used the fluff to make a lot of kief and a great cinnamon brown sugar pecan cheese cake and some butter scotch fudge. The leaf I used to make hash oil.

BEST HARVEST I'VE EVER HAD. and honestly- I dont expect to beat it for a long while, switched back to Indica's. Growing some kush- and I dont think its possible to get those kind of yields off an indica, I'll be aiming for half that.
 
stelthy

stelthy

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H E L P !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!- I have an office cupboard that is 6ft high, 2.5ft wide and 1.5ft deep, after taking into account my fans and grow shelf my total growing space is 3ft high, 2.5ft wide and 1.5ft deep I bought a LUMATEK 400w hps with cooltube and already have an in-line fan (5" systemair in-line), and insulated ducting but thought mambe I could do a 600w instaed and promptly changed it for a 600w LUMATEK setup. BUT!!!!!!! temps were a little higher with the 400 but the 600 is mega hot like 55oC degrees and am having trouble cooling it, oh I have a small IKON filter on the end... should I A) change the fan to a faster slightly larger one? B) change the fan to a faster slightly larger one and get a bigger filter, or c) this is overkill for the space do steps A+B and keep my fingers crossed or d) change it back to a 400w hps and still upgrade the fan and filter PLEASE HELP ME ASAP ( as I need to sort this at the hydro shop tommoz asap) MANY MANY THANKS - STELTHY
 
hardroc

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stick with the 400 in that space, 600 is a little overkill, I use a 400 in a space 2 x 2.5 x6 and it covers perfectly and I only use a 176 cfm inline fan, 200cfm would be better though
 
Dropastone

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stelthy said:
H E L P !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!- I have an office cupboard that is 6ft high, 2.5ft wide and 1.5ft deep, after taking into account my fans and grow shelf my total growing space is 3ft high, 2.5ft wide and 1.5ft deep I bought a LUMATEK 400w hps with cooltube and already have an in-line fan (5" systemair in-line), and insulated ducting but thought mambe I could do a 600w instaed and promptly changed it for a 600w LUMATEK setup. BUT!!!!!!! temps were a little higher with the 400 but the 600 is mega hot like 55oC degrees and am having trouble cooling it, oh I have a small IKON filter on the end... should I A) change the fan to a faster slightly larger one? B) change the fan to a faster slightly larger one and get a bigger filter, or c) this is overkill for the space do steps A+B and keep my fingers crossed or d) change it back to a 400w hps and still upgrade the fan and filter PLEASE HELP ME ASAP ( as I need to sort this at the hydro shop tommoz asap) MANY MANY THANKS - STELTHY
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hardroc said:
stick with the 400 in that space, 600 is a little overkill, I use a 400 in a space 2 x 2.5 x6 and it covers perfectly and I only use a 176 cfm inline fan, 200cfm would be better though
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I think a 400 might be overkill. I use a 400 watt in a 3x3x8 closet with two 60cfm blowers for a total of 120cfm exhausting my closet and my temps average mid to high 70's to low 80's.

Peace.
 
g00sEgg

g00sEgg

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Dropastone said:
I think a 400 might be overkill. I use a 400 watt in a 3x3x8 closet with two 60cfm blowers for a total of 120cfm exhausting my closet and my temps average mid to high 70's to low 80's.

Peace.
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Would 1 120cfm blower work? Trying to figure out how i'm gonna push the air through my cool tube...could i push and pull it? with 2 fans? Sorry...i don't know if i'm makin' sense...i'm gone.:bigjoint:
 
Dropastone

Dropastone

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I'm no expert and I don't use a cool tube. However I can suggest that you use a blower to pull air through you cool tube, that will help to cool your cab as well. Then either mount a blower for an intake or cut some passive intakes for fresh air. Someone more experienced will be along soon enough to give you a better answer than mine, I'm sure.

It would also help if you posted a pic of what you got going on.

Peace.
 
g00sEgg

g00sEgg

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Dropastone said:
I'm no expert and I don't use a cool tube. However I can suggest that you use a blower to pull air through you cool tube, that will help to cool your cab as well. Then either mount a blower for an intake or cut some passive intakes for fresh air. Someone more experienced will be along soon enough to give you a better answer than mine, I'm sure.

It would also help if you posted a pic of what you got going on.

Peace.
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Aight, will do...needa get a camera from my roomate. My cool tube is down state right now...waiting for my gf to visit to bring it to me. haha. 4 hour drive =(
 
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