400watt First Indoor Grow *PICS* BLUE DREAM

treckin

Well-Known Member
Hey all,

Im writing from NorCal (Bay Area), and I am about 2 days into flowering my 5 large
Blue Dream clones in my closet.

The setup:


  • Generic donated 400watt HPS hood, ballast, and bulb.

  • Donated 265CFM 4" blower fan

  • 18" Aluminum Foil sheeting (dull side :hump:)

  • 3" Aluminized Duct-Tape

  • 2 pieces of quad corrugated cardboard for floor insulation

  • ACE hardware bathroom vent kit - 4" bathroom vent cover and 8' of 4" aluminized accordion ducting

  • Assorted hooks and chains from local hardware store

  • 3'x10' of double sided, black-white, plastic sheeting

  • 1 stick on zipper

  • 5 12"x12" square plastic planing pots

  • 5 14" circular water catching trays

  • Foxfarm Ocean Forest potting soil

  • Storebrand Hydroton Pellets

  • Foxfarm Grow Big Vegetative Nutes

  • Botanicare ProBlend Soil 1-5-4

  • Profit???

  • Blood

  • Sweat

  • Tears
I transplanted the clones (which were bought locally at a dispensary). I checked the bottoms of the clones when I got them for many white root structures, and they were packed. I almost immediately transplanted the rockwool-seated clones into their permanent homes: White 12" square 5 gallon buckets filled with 3-4" of hydroton pellets topped with Foxfarm Ocean Forrest potting soil.

I buried the clones about 1.5" under the top of the soil, after filling the hole I dug with a small amount of water. After the rockwool was fully covered I made a berm approximately 2" in height around the cloneling, and watered this area to the brim with fresh water for the first 2 waterings or so.

I began treating with Foxfarm Grow Big Vegetative Growth Formula after 10-14 days on fresh water and soil nutrients, 1tsp/gal of water. The water was manually PH'd with an indicator solution after nuted and then adjusted accordingly.
I made the mistake of trying to feed my plants more of the nute solution then was called for faster; I fed them each watering without feeding fresh, untreated water in between nutrient feedings. I noticed a day or two after the 3rd consecutive watering that the plants were drooping slightly, and after some careful diagnosis, I decided to treat the plants with two consecutive waterings of fresh, untreated, ph'd water.
The slow-down in vegetative growth (which had been about 1" per day to that point, but then slowed to zero inches after the over-nuting) stopped after maybe 4 total days. After that period, I found and removed maybe 4 total leaves among the 5 plants that showed signs of nutrient abuse. It was never determined whether those leaves were burned as a result of over nutrient treatment or of water spillage on the lower foliage during hand feeding. After 4 days of stopped growth, the plants resumed normal 1"/day vegetative growth.

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I maintained 1tsp/gal of the Grow Big nutes through the plants 36 day vegetative period, and except for the above discrepency, the plants maintainted this rate, as today they stand about 30" tall on the 2nd day of flowering after about 39 days. I engaged in what could be called ZERO trimming or hedging or topping of any kind. I only removed foliage which was already over 50% dead of its own accord. And maybe the odd leaf or 2 that made me scared of mold or fungus.

When I felt the plants projected height and dried mass were within the goals I set based on the space and wattage of my setup, I switched them to flower. This involved changing their nutes and giving them their first taste of the dark on one of their normal watering nights. I didnt close the grow room door zipper the first night, instead exposing them to the friendly glow of my nearby 52" LCD/Computer Screen. The second night I closed them in completely.

Airflow should be self explanatory given the pics, but if you cant tell, the fan pulls air in the duct just below the light and blows it through a duct to my bathroom where it vents into the room. For me smell, noise, light, etc are not major concerns.

During the light cycle I have a larger fan blowing air in through the fully opened doorway.

To water I now have to pull the plants out until I can see the back plants (which I then rotate out). I treat those first, and replace and water them one at a time. This is an inefficient system, and I have envisaged a system of tubes and funnels that would make it easier, I just haven't come up with anything that would be up to my standards.

Anyway, this thread will be a work in progress, let me know what you guys think :joint:

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Nice work! These are some gorgeous bushy girls, It looks like you took the right approach to this too! Ill keep checkin this thread out, I like how much attention you have obviously been paying
 

treckin

Well-Known Member
Thanks!

If there were one thing I would do to the setup now it would be oscillating fans and maybe a higher cfm exhaust fan

All told though this grow room was less then $175, so I am hesitant to spend more cash on it.
 

treckin

Well-Known Member
Thanks! Ive been thinking of doing Grand Daddy Purple next, because the bag I had this past weekend was so amazing it was ridiculous. It was a 1/8th nug of pure chemical HAPPINESS. No kidding it was like MDMA or some shit. Solid purple, red hairs from head to foot, with glistening trichs all over the damn place. Dense as SFbay fog.

Anyone have any comments on some of the pic of my leaves? I have true 8mp shots via email on request. As this is my first time grow, I would be really interested in other peoples interpretations of the symptoms I mentioned in my OP.
 

treckin

Well-Known Member
Hey guys,

Its now the 10th day of 12/12 light, and I have only just started to notice a few changes. The first change I noticed was two small chutes which at this time appear to have no direct association with the calyxes or fan leaf growth areas. These chutes appear one on either side of the calyx site. The second change I have noticed is that new growth tips which are denser then previous growth tips are sprouting from the gap between the fan leaves and their parent stalk (calyx site).
I have included some pics as best I could, bear with me these are on my cell phone, I will get a real camera soon Im sure.

The plants average total height is now 36" from the soil to the highest vegetation.

I have been considering modding my hood by drilling a 4" hole right above the bulb behind the interior reflector. This would allow me to pull much hotter air with the 260cfm vent fan, as trying to catch hot air below the bulb seems a bit futile.
I haven't decided if Im going to do this after this grow or attempt during. Im leaning towards not doing it during this flower cycle because it could potentially be difficult for me to replace the 400w HPS on a dimes notice.
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treckin

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Thanks! I have another update incoming - the preflowers are starting to grow very dense calyx sites and there is evidence of precrystals and many many white hairs. I hope I can set up a nice shot (what I wouldnt give for a macro lens...).

+rep :joint:
 

treckin

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Hey guys,

Day 20 of edit:flowering today, although a couple of the pic's below are from maybe 3 days ago. Big changes! A pretty marked slow down in veg growth, although not completely! They are now about 45" off the soil to the highest growth, and they are clearly beginning to flower, with the bud sites growing very dense and hairy/crystallized. I can almost watch them grow at this point. The leaves seem much more responsive to light/dark in terms of physical positioning of themselves, as well as taking on a mean droop when drinking.

This last watering cycle I waited almost 7 full days before watering. I have been giving 20ml/gal of the ProBlend and about 7.5ml/gal of the General Hydroponics PH Up Solution for 2 feedings now, and I will likely stay at this nutrient concentration until flush.

This is my first grow, so any comments positive or critical are completely welcome!

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WimpyVNWK

Member
whats up treckin
man I totally love your setup and man does your plants look good ill be following your thread till you start puffin on these ladies keep it up
I have almost the exact same set up as yours and im using fox farm ocean forest soil with all of the liquid ferts and granular ferts from fox farm. I have two master kush and one pre bubba and one black berry in 1.5 gal pots but they are all about 24 inches off the soil I dont know why and they are kind of strechy can this be from the pots being too small
 

treckin

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Mine grew about an inch a day after they recovered from moving to the soil (1-3 days?). So unless your plants are around 24 in high, I would say yes, something may be limiting your growth.

Its possible that the plants sense that they are in a container ultimately too small, but this is not for me to say.

It could also be a stretchy phenotype i suppose.
 

WimpyVNWK

Member
thanks for your input
my plants are 21 days into flowering and have a while to go and its my second grow so i have a lot to learn keep us updated with your ladies
Blue Dream is a bomb ass smoke
 

treckin

Well-Known Member
Hey guys, this is going to be mostly just a picture update!

Thanks for checking out my thread! And if you have any questions, just ask!

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