4x Thai, AK47, Strawberry Cough, Silver Haze - 8 weeks VEG!

I can foresee that room looking pretty damn wonderful in the near future.
Well done keeping on top of everything you've had to deal with mate.

Thanks for the vote of confidence.


I need a better pic host.

Admin note: removed huge pictures.

oooohh which ones that

The first is the suppossed silver haze. I don't think that's what it is.

The second is the strawberry cough.

they look the same but one has red stems

So I have some problms with a few of my plants. I think all my plants are showing signs of he same ailment, 3 are just much far worse than the others. They looked super horrid 2 das ago, so I flushed 3 of them (all 3 sick plants are the thai in 5 gallon buckets, the other thai is sick also but not nearas bad) They looked ok for a day and picked up alot but today they are getting bad again. I am losing a ton of leafs every day. They are browing and falling off my plants. I thought at first this was a mag def, and treated with Huvecta but now I'm not so sure. Can anyone give me any ideas?

Nutramist cloner system from www.futruregarden.com

nitrogen, calcium and or magnesium would be my guess..

some of them need to be cut off id say.. there past the pint of no return and will be basically just a bourden to the plant..

oh it happens when a plants flowering anyways so i wouldnt be to worried

Ok Tronica. What did you do?
Good plants just don't go bad.
Be honest, we're all growers here.
We are all learners, unless we've been growing the same strain for several generations, and then you can good at that one thing.

Thai weed is an extremely good smoke, your gonna love it. You need to salvage these babies.
In saying that, they do not like a lot of attention. Too much care, and fucking with them with not be beneficial to their growth.
I grew a lot of Thai in the 80's, it was a 'set and forget' strain outdoors.
No work, no care, and they loved it.

The bud growth still looks good, so there's hope.
30L pots is like growing in the ground.

Have you been showing them too much love?
What day of 12/12 is this?

this is day 33 of 12/12

im not sure if its a nute burn or not, the pics dont do the damage justice. the other day my plants were drooping like crazy, and not from lack of water or to much. from something being locked up.

i have been feeding with full strength hessi (coco) and big bud, with mollasses. they got watered full strength. 6 days later they got just mollasses and water, and then 6 days later they got full strength again.

im wonderingif i mis-diagnosed the mg def. and if it was really a ca def. and by spraying mg (foliar) i caused more problems since mg and ca are chelates to eachother.

i know i hav some kind of issue, i just dont know what exactly. and 1 flush didn't help much. i think i may flush again.

heres a pic of the thai that is doing well, in comparison with the others, the buds are much larger



my problem could be to high of ph, and since the healthy plant has been in its soil the least amount of time, with a larger amount, it would support that.

Tronica said:

this is day 33 of 12/12

im not sure if its a nute burn or not, the pics dont do the damage justice. the other day my plants were drooping like crazy, and not from lack of water or to much. from something being locked up.

i have been feeding with full strength hessi (coco) and big bud, with mollasses. they got watered full strength. 6 days later they got just mollasses and water, and then 6 days later they got full strength again.

im wonderingif i mis-diagnosed the mg def. and if it was really a ca def. and by spraying mg (foliar) i caused more problems since mg and ca are chelates to eachother.

i know i hav some kind of issue, i just dont know what exactly. and 1 flush didn't help much. i think i may flush again.

heres a pic of the thai that is doing well, in comparison with the others, the buds are much larger

my problem could be to high of ph, and since the healthy plant has been in its soil the least amount of time, with a larger amount, it would support that.

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OK. When you say the pics don't do the damage justice, do you mean the damage is worse than what the pics look or not as bad?

Drooping, clawing, yellowing, etc. Are all signs of unhappiness.
For now, forget the fucking molasses. Thai does not need molasses to do well. It may well hate the shit. Thai weed needs soil, water and light, that's it.

You need to go back to the basics.
From what you've said, I think there is a definite 'over caring' involved here.

When growing in soil the happy PH window is much more forgiving.
When you say high PH, how high?
Why is that one in the pic looking do damn good?
Work out what you did with that one, and apply it to the others.
What did you do different to that one?

the only thing different about that one is a larger pot size, so its symptoms have not got as bad. but it is starting also. i think it may be simple n overdose and that my hesi coco has to much n for flowering nute at ful strength. at least thats one conclusion that i have came to.

Tronica said:

the only thing different about that one is a larger pot size, so its symptoms have not got as bad. but it is starting also. i think it may be simple n overdose and that my hesi coco has to much n for flowering nute at ful strength. at least thats one conclusion that i have came to.

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Nothing wrong with plenty of N in your bloom nutes.
Canna has heaps in their Flores which I use.
It will help carry your leaves through till harvest.
Healthy leaves = healthy buds.

Your mix may be too strong for the Thai though.

Even though your in soil you should still have some idea of the PPM or EC of your nute strength.
Do you know what the PPM of your mix is?
Do you have a TDS meter to check?

Do all the plants get the same strength and it's the Thai that's not happy?

look in my grow guide theres something that may interest you scroll down

With those red stems it looks like a phosphorus and potassium deficiency. Especially since you are in aggressive flower stage.

Give it a dose of something with a high P-K ratio. A good one would be Liquid Koolbloom (0-10-10) but you could also try any other "bloom booster."

...........how they doing, Tronica?? Just now saw you had been having those issues; came up quick! How they doing now or did you chop?

They're doing "ok"

Not as good as I'd like but theyre managing. I ordered some BMO Super Plant Tonic the other day and am waiting for that to get here. I've flushed a few times in the last few weeks and then fed at 3/4 strength. The flushes seem to help for like 1 day and then they start to look bad again. But I've managed to keep them growing buds, just not looking super healthy.

the 3 non thai plants are all looking great.

my mirco plants are also lookig good too, flowering decently enough even tho some are showing signs of burn. I think the mollasses was giving me problems and I cut back on it. the micro also got 4 more lights for it the other day. 2x 42w 51k lights and 2x 42w 27 lights.

my biggest issue, and something i'm trying to fix today, is my non working ballast.

last night it kicked off and wont come back on, it was really hot too. I think i burnt something, or the ignitor isn't firing.

im taking it to my shop today to see about possibly rmaing the thing.

i have put my 64w 27k cfl up in place of my 600w light for the being. hoping a few days with only 464 watts as oppossed to 1000w wont hurt them to much.

ill try and get pictures soon. things have been crazy.

........BMO makes some great organic stuff.....did you get their Flower Power too?? Very inexpensive and would give you good P-K as diggity suggests too.

Wow......so remember a month or whatever ago you had all the bugs....and mites? I remember the gnats you had all over everything that were dead and making a mess.........you flushed with GoGnats or something.......could that have something to do with this? Are you still using anything?