4X4 1200w V-ScrOG Cage of Green

Damn canon thows girls look so happy.

Today is Day 45 since they were seedlings.
I took your advice and am watering every 4-5 days, 4 cups each.
They seem to like that better.

Should i expect another 45 days from here? This is taking forever it seems.
They MIGHT be growing an inch every 4-6 days...

Sry the pics are sideways

everything looks awesome!!! i feel at this point your plants should start to really take off, the first month from seed is painful!! how much have you yielded in the past with this 1200w setup?

Thats great news!
This is my first grow with this setup.

expecting 2.5lbs tho

45 days? id say there a tad bit off for sure but dont even worry about it! they look super healthy , your gonna wanna make sure they have the right root space in those pots thou, a gallon per month, if they are in anything smaller then that i would suggest a transplant because that could be the cause of them not growing quite as fast as you would like! but its all based on the enviorment as well! anyways keep up the good work! cant wait to see those puppies budding, you got me subbed for sure! if you need help with anything dont be afraid to PM me il never give you information that im not 100% on!

Webbdtoez said:

Thats great news!
This is my first grow with this setup.

expecting 2.5lbs tho

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what are you feeding them? what soil are you using? you're not going to get anywhere near 2.5lbs...your plants are waaaaay to small for their age. i'm on my first grow as well and here are my girls at day 39.

in my opinion your plants are stunted because of your lights. vegging with 1200w of mh is far from optimal. i'm in a 4'x4' tent as well and only using a mixed spectrum 8-bulb t5 which pulls 398 watts. i'm planning to grow these girls out in 7 gallon pots under 800 watts of hps. i'm doing a horizontal scrog, and expecting less than a pound.

Subbed. I'm planning something like this. I was thinking 4 plants one in each corner of my 4x4 tent, but this is giving me more ideas. keep up the good work.

CCCmints said:

what are you feeding them? what soil are you using? you're not going to get anywhere near 2.5lbs...your plants are waaaaay to small for their age. i'm on my first grow as well and here are my girls at day 39.

in my opinion your plants are stunted because of your lights. vegging with 1200w of mh is far from optimal. i'm in a 4'x4' tent as well and only using a mixed spectrum 8-bulb t5 which pulls 398 watts. i'm planning to grow these girls out in 7 gallon pots under 800 watts of hps. i'm doing a horizontal scrog, and expecting less than a pound.

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I prefer to grow organic with a soil recipe that ive used in the past. I will only add nutes when i start to see deficiency, which will most likely be in the last leg of the flowering stage. Figuring out potential yield is just math. My first grow ever, i reached .78g/watt. I am not vegging with 1200w, im vegging with 600w. Im waiting until the screen is 60% full to turn on the second 600w and begin flowering. Based on my math, if i achieve gram per watt i will have 2.6lbs. If i achieve my last record of .78g per watt, ill still have 2.09lbs. Where do you get your facts?

I'm no expert..I just see someone a month in a half into veg with plants that look 2 weeks old asking if 45 more days of veg will be enough to produce 2.5lbs..

I thought I could help out by posting a pic of my first grow at day 39 to show you the size differences between our plants and also our yield estimates.

.78g/watt is excellent IMO, what setup were you running before?

Also, when you were running your last setup, were the plants still this small at day 45? Bet they weren't

Webbdtoez said:

I prefer to grow organic with a soil recipe that ive used in the past. I will only add nutes when i start to see deficiency, which will most likely be in the last leg of the flowering stage. Figuring out potential yield is just math. My first grow ever, i reached .78g/watt. I am not vegging with 1200w, im vegging with 600w. Im waiting until the screen is 60% full to turn on the second 600w and begin flowering. Based on my math, if i achieve gram per watt i will have 2.6lbs. If i achieve my last record of .78g per watt, ill still have 2.09lbs. Where do you get your facts?

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Question:

What do you all think about using MH for veg vs. HPS, and vise versa?

My first grows seemed to be more progressive as far as the veg stage when using HPS, as opposed to my grow now using MH.
When i was refreshing for this current grow, i read that MH was better for veg. I feel like i should have stuck with HPS for veg.

If those are 45 days old something has gone very wrong. I havent done soil in a while but I do keep my mothers in soil and those look like plants younger then 3 weeks from seed.

CCCmints said:

what are you feeding them? what soil are you using? you're not going to get anywhere near 2.5lbs...your plants are waaaaay to small for their age. i'm on my first grow as well and here are my girls at day 39.

in my opinion your plants are stunted because of your lights. vegging with 1200w of mh is far from optimal. i'm in a 4'x4' tent as well and only using a mixed spectrum 8-bulb t5 which pulls 398 watts. i'm planning to grow these girls out in 7 gallon pots under 800 watts of hps. i'm doing a horizontal scrog, and expecting less than a pound.

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. You plants are toxic, back off the nitrogen.

Webbdtoez said:

Today is Day 45 since they were seedlings.
I took your advice and am watering every 4-5 days, 4 cups each.
They seem to like that better.

Should i expect another 45 days from here? This is taking forever it seems.
They MIGHT be growing an inch every 4-6 days...
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What are you root temps? By chance are they sitting on concrete?

spandy said:

. You plants are toxic, back off the nitrogen.


What are you root temps? By chance are they sitting on concrete?

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No they arent on concrete. Idk what the temps are in the root zone. Temps vary drastically mostly because of the texas weather, as my passive intake is comin straight from outside, facing the north. Sometimes we'll have 25+ mph north winds and ill have to take the duct out of the tent so it doesnt freeze out the girls. Then some days itll be 10-15 mph south wind, which will create a negative pressure, making temps go up a little more than they are used to. They generally stay around 80degrees with lights on, and around high 60's with lights off. Like i said, the almost unpredictable texas weather keeps me busy all the time trying to negotiate the temps in the tent. The ph sits at 6.5-6.7. I will be getting another 6" intake fan for the duct running from the outside soon. I have two 6" exhaust fans now. Having two constantly running is what helps keep my temps around 80 degrees. The buckets are sitting off he ground about a quarter inch with a fan blowing air across the floor. Since lifting them off the ground ive noticed faster growth. Thats all i can think to say right now that you may be needing to know in oder to help me figure out what to do.

I should have watered today but i am going to wait until the plants start to droop a little, just so i know all the stagnant water has been used before watering.

Good idea?

Since posting an update on the 6th, the girls have grown about an inch and a half.

Seems like super slow growth, my plants jump an inch a day at the moment, they have slowed since transplanting a little but still, at 40 days I would expect a lot more growth as stated above


That is growth from 3 days, plants are about 2-3 weeks from seed

Could it be the seeds?

The only factor i can come up with is when my temps go a little crazy, that delays them from growing steadily.

What would my outcome be if i all the sudden switched to flowering with 1200 w HPS? What would my yield look like, what would the plant look like? Would it resemble an autoflower strain with one massive cola?

Cmon guys, need some good advice here.

From what I've seen my guess is the root zone has been kept too wet from the beginning. Like it was said before seedlings in suck large pots do not need much water. I believe that Mh light will tend to allow the plant to stay more compact, but not to the point where it is not growing properly. I also have found great results flowering with MH just for the record. As far as flipping them now, you can flip when ever you want, but if the plant isn't growing well in the first place you most likely will be very dissapointed with the out come. I flower plants small all the time , but I run a single cola SOG grow, and in turn use smaller plants, and more of them. Seeing as I'm posative those plants aren't mature yet, then even if you switch to 12/12 light, there is a good chance it would take multiple weeks before them start to flowering. In that time they might fill in more and stretch up into the screen, but I would bet again that you'd be dissapointed.