6 inch PVC aeroponics tube system

OldGrower

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SailAway, ok lets see if I can help you.

About when to start your plants flowering - sorry I have no experience with the strains you are growing and you have not told me how much
growng height you have. You need to reseach the strains you have. You could ask on the seed and strain thread and see if anyone hs grown
these strains to find out how much stretch to expect. If you are told 3x stretch and you flower at 1 foot expect 3 foot finished plants. If no info is
found I would guess everything to be 3x and you should be safe, you can always bend them if needed. You can always veg you plats in your
cloner as I do and go straight to flower in your system, perpetual harvest style. Wish I cld be more help here, document the plants and you will
know.

I buy 3" neoprene collars but don't know they make 3.5" ones. Look online.

About dual resevoirs I just run one 40 Gallon and check & adjust daily (ps res chnge only 2week intervals)

Flushing is done at the end of the grow to get excess nutrients out of the medium (usually soil). With the low ppm's and nothing
to hold nutrient levels flush at 1/2 nutrient strength final 4 days works great for this method.

Top drip is not really needed. When I used rockwool for cloning I would water from top 2x a day till roots came out of pots. Now I use my turbo kloner
and root hang down from pots when inserted so no top feed ever.

You will not be able to get the net pots out after a month or so, but if te 6" tube goes all the way to your res I don't think you will have any drain problems.

Cleaning the hydroton is just a plain water rinse to get dust off of it, nothing else needed. PS can be reused if you want.

I start adding floralicious after the 2nd week of flowering 50 ml per 40 gal each week. A little more later in flowering will post feed schedule later.

Do what you want about the bad leaves, trim off or leave. lowr leaves always die off sooner or later.

Topping will help control stretch some, I usually top my plants at about 8" tall and leave 3 nodes with fan leaves

Use whatever you have or want for support. I've seen snow fence, pvc, dowel rods, and netting used. Your choice use some iminagation.

With regards to mother plants - yeah go ahead take some clones for mothers and get to flowering. Just be sure you can clone. PS keep notes about
your clones too you will want to know how long it takes for them to root and ease of cloning at a minimum.

I don't know what pro clear is sorry. Starting in rockwool should work butI have never done this but I would use a low ppm nute solution ph 6.7 or so
if I went that route.

Finally Stinkbud is a member on this board, just do a member search. He has many posts and the great Harvest a pound every 3 weeks thread is legendary.

Hope this helps, ask if you need more. OG
 

SailAway

Member
"Use whatever you have or want for support. I've seen snow fence, pvc, dowel rods, and netting used. Your choice use some iminagation", well that didn't work, she said she was "not going to stand around naked of anyone 24/7" Bummer...

I will pop some net over the plants as the pop through, and staple of to the walls, I hope the plants are not that heavy.

Streach and 3" neoprene collars, both new to me thanks, Researching Streach and found the collars, I was going to use tin foil, but this is much better.

I never thought of growing in the Prop, then to the grow room, I just did it out of need, but to be honest it is a great idea, i was thinking of building a load of 4" tubes, to take the same ned pots in and then it would not disturb the roots, but this is a great idea, saves a load of time building a load of stuff again, ok i will probably get bored later and do it anyway, but at least it is later.

Quick thing how did you mount the misters, I read you need to be able to pull them out to check, is this really required? and been suggested rubber bungs for wine corks? Thoughts please!
 

OldGrower

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Sailaway, about your ventilation I think you may at
some point run into problems with just the 4 inch
intake, you may want to consider a larger size. I
understand you will have others thermo controlled
but 4" May not do. Check out ventilation on the design
and setup area. Gl OG
 

OldGrower

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About mounting the misters, you could use cork or rubber
stoppers drilled in center to hold in place, or even
neoprene. I use grommets I picked up at hydro store,
they weren't cheap.
 

OldGrower

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To bad the misses don't want to help haha. Mrs OG has
a brown thumb, is always volunteering to help, but I
usually keep her away. Usually let her help during cloning
and system startup and that's about it. She always
volunteers to help chop and trim but alas I am picky
about trimming and would probably get into a fight or
piss her off. Good woman tho and always supports me
in my endeavors.
 

SailAway

Member
Ok did the cork yesterday, damn hydro shop gave me the wrong tube size, garden center usually works best for me now. Ok ventilation the 4 inch I was just to give a constant flow, then the 10 and 12 kick in for the cooling effect as well as required, pretty much every time the lights come on, but temp regulated. That was the idea, other wise I run a load of heating to keep it warm, and pump it out to the outside.

kids school laters
 

OldGrower

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Stretch, sorry about the previous spelling. Stretch is when you put the plant info flower and the resultant growth in height called
stretch. The spacing between the nodes will increase sometimes dramatically, before and during the very first stage of flower development.

Usually indica strains tend to have less stretch and sativa strains have considerably more. I have a cut of wifi that when flowere at 12"
topped reaches 45" easily at the end of flower. I've grown diesel that only grows about 2x in height total when flowered at 16".

See the difference in the last attached photo. The taller strain is wifi by OG Raskal the shorter strain is gdoggyp by CSG.
 

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SailAway

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Wow I. Want mine to look like that, finished gets in bits sorted for the tubes, always a bummer getting the wrong bits.

Just switched the lighting to a 600w dual spec HPS. From the 300w CLS.

looking good, still got some old leaf miss shaping and blotches, but new growth seems great.

I have kept the lights at a meter/ yard away from the plants and have lowered them a bit today, no idea how to judge it, I know it is supposed to be 52cm once is is all going, I think, help.

Looked really good this morning, misted them, and I gather I am not supposed to do this when the lights a re on. Sorry only just read this bit.

Tested the hole size for the net pots, and whilst 92mm would fit in a flat surface, trying an 89mm tomorrow as you said would be better a little tighter. We will see.

I picked up clay pebbles, again hopefully done right, Seeds were put in 35 days ago and the tallest Money Maker are about 8-9 inches tall, but the jack hearer, wite widow and BigBud, are all about 6-7inches tall.

I guess I should wait a little while before topping yes/no

I await your instruction, and are the iffy leaves ok?

Thanks again.

J
 

thump easy

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green crack 35 days.jpglets test these girls 001.jpg
Some pics, this is where I lost 1 hr of typing previously
lolz i had to look into those ranbow plugs to lolz i forget sometimes oldgrower you got it down gee!!!!! mine is five inch but i have made many changes to it since i been playing with it got alot of insight as far as chemical regimen.. Im so sighn up right know for this thread..
 

OldGrower

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thump easy, yeah I have made numerous changes to my system to get where i'm at and I have received a load of tips from aerokrafter off another site.
The nutrient regieme is from him and work wonderfully in these type stytems. I ran into aerokrafter in a rookie aero flo grow along on another site
where the taught his method and mentored a group of growers.

Hey if any breeders would like to donate seeds and are interested in a rookie grow along aero style, maybe we could get one going on here.
Would like to see all participants get some free beans for for their efforts. Anyone who crossed the finish line, documented their grow weekly or bimonthly,
and had a chop and smoke report with pics should get some free beans. CSG hosted the other grow along I was in and treated me very well with beans.

Did you build your system? Looks very well designed and professionally made. Keep an eye out I will post Aerokrafters nute regieme soon.
Any questions just ask I will try to help. GL OG
 

OldGrower

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Sailaway, as long as you have 3 good sets of nodes to get 3 main shoots going you could top at any time but don't forget some of the stem
will be inside the net pot so some extra stem length is needed.
You don't have totop if you don't want to though, but topping makes a nice bush, spreads out the colas to make them smaller = less chance
for molds to form in buds.
 

OldGrower

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Sailaway, as for light distance away from plant tops - just hold your hand, plam down under the light. If it is to hot
too keep you hand under it for a minute or more its to hot for the plant. Hope that helps OG
 

SailAway

Member
Thanks OG, No the lights are well cool the, I might bring them in a bit closer and see how they do, just didn't want to burn the babies.

Got the holes in now and just sorting the misters, mount the lights on the rods, rig the motors, pop the plants in the pots with the Clay Pellets, Nute up the water, and and and I think that is about it, getting there at last.

A painful labour of love...

Checked out the plants and I found the new growths, never looked or seen before, ok need a little longer then.

J...
 

SailAway

Member
Hi Thump Easy,

I like the square, is this NFT? I looked at this but could not work out how the roots would grow down before hiting the nute/water film.

Prob me just being stupid.

J..
 

SailAway

Member
OG Just a quick Comment, you asked if I knew how to clone, "of course not, that is why your here". do I split the root, do I keep the blade wet with Cloner, do I scrape the skin in the base of the root, I assume all are 45 deg and then, compound and streight in the macine, with just water, is this correct?
 

SailAway

Member
HELP, just put the new system in to action, we have water and heat flowing, just popping over to check that I have not dumped the full 200 liters of water all over the floors during the night, But assuming this is ok, I would like to start transfering the plants across, the roots currently are massive, 3 foot long some of them, and it would like to give it space to bed in, before putting to flower in a few weeks.

Would it be ok to run it on water, for a day, just want to flush the plants out as well, once they are in?

The misters, I was hopping for a massive torrent, they spray nicely, 40LPH but would have liked a little more Umph, if you know what I mean, go one that wont spray at all and still got 10 more to install. but 50 ish are in already, do I need to put drippers in for new plants as I can't see that the clay will get that wet?

Just dont want to kill them all now I have got this far.....
 

Bongboy00

Member
Hey what's up guys. I'm making a hybrid system that is goin to be aeroponics, dwc, or rdwc. Ill get more i to my set up and how it works after. I plan on using 6 in PVC like the op. but I'm playing with different ideas for the sprayers. I'm thinking ill put the 1" PVC into the 6" sitting on the bottom of the tube with the sprayers in between the net pots. The sprayers is where I'm thinking different ideas. I can tap the 1" PVC than use a regular sprinkler head.

This will empty back into the resivoir like the op has. Except I will add a shut off valve so I will be able to run the sprayers and full the whole PVC pipe up acting like a dwc. I will also add a second 2" drain that will act as an over flow and drain back into the resivoir by doing this I will be able to disconnect the line feeding the sprayer and have the pump running none stop creating a rdwc.

I'm taking a bunch if ideas and putting them together. What I need help with is different types of things I can use as sprayers. They have the little mist things for plants that hook up to a hose but I think it may clog easier from the nuts where as the home in ground sprinklers are a little heavy duty.

What do you guys think of my idea and can you give me some sprayer advice?

I trust this to work as a rdwc no problem but in case the roots clog my drain I can work it as a dwc. The same for the sprayers running it aeroponicly. If something is to break I can flood the system and run it one of the other ways.

I love what I hear about aeroponics and since I'm building the system it's way easier and cheaper to build one that does it all.

Also on my set up. I am planing on running it in a 5' long closet. I'm going for a perpetual harvest so I'm going to have 2 seperate systems next to each other
Basically each 6" PVC will have 3 spots for nets and 1 opening to check on the drains that ill have a cover for. This way I can adjust nuts depending on where they are at in the flower stage. I will veg 3 plants when those 3 are ready to flower I will clone. 2-3weeks later put those girls into flower by than the original 3 should be ready to be harvested.

Hoping I can really 0 in on this and get close to 1lb every 3-4 weeks

Ok watcha think boys
 

OldGrower

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SailAway, you can just use ph'd water for a day no problem. As for cloning just look in the threads here theres plenty
of info, but yes i use nutes (mild 500ppm). I only scrape the last 1 inch if woody otherwise just try to have a leaf junction
(node) near the 45 degree cut.

Bongboy00, that is the way I used to run mine and I am seriosly considering going back to it. The biggest
drawback is the roots are hards to get out at cleanup. Originally I used mine for rdwc but it takes a lot of water
and I think it works better aero. GL OG
 
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