$800 budget need all new everything for sog setup

Markbarnett

Active Member
I am going to have a $800 budget for lights nutrients soil pots ECT. But I have to closets to grow in one is 8x8x7 and the other is 2x10x7.


Me and like 3 friends are putting in together to do this so we don't have to buy smoke anymore...

What can I do... Any and all suggestions welcome and thx
 

Morth

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That's not much could probably get a conventional hood/ballast/bulb combo for the 8x8x7 to flower in and a 2 6 bulb T5 setup for the 2x10x7 for veg and maybe have the money for a vent system for the flower closet. But after that I would imagine your going to be out of money with only $800. would go soil and pots upgrade as you go along
 

Markbarnett

Active Member
There going to buy seeds so I might be able to do $1000 but I want something like 30-40 plants going and that many clones ready to go in
 

CraxCorn

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Lots of research on genetics, determine what strain to grow.
Here's what I would think to do, if I was starting from the beginning, with a budget.
Seeds; $50-100.
Tent or reflective white roll; $85-120, doing two closets, just do some research to decide on that.
Venting (two intake, two out fans, ducting); $100
DWC bucket system; $100-250 depending on how many to fit your spaces. I've done the math for diy vs premade, just find a great kit on amazon and read reviews.
8 bulb t5's ; $150 each plus extra bulbs, the one I got came with 6700's. Check out eye hortilux line of powerveg, their site shows how to setup the bulbs for veg vs flower.
A PPM meter and a PH meter; $25 for cheap ones.
that's probably more than 800......
ph up and ph down and grounded timers and fans....
Pick a basic nutrient line, like general hydroponics 3 part. I went with the Lucas formula instead.
You'd use CaliMagic as directed, the gh micro and gh bloom in a 6:9 ratio. Look up their feeding charts, mix up calmag first, then micro, then bloom, then check ppm and dilute to the lowest recommended amount for that week, then adjust ph.
This basically maxes out your 800, maybe even goes over.
hid's will get way too hot for closets without buying air conditioning, plus the increase in electricity cost (mine tripled with only one light). and led's are cooler but higher initial cost.

You don't have to buy everything all at once. Figure out the strain, buy seeds. Then set up the closets with either the tents or paper and ventilation.
You might not get the seeds for a few weeks as they're usually coming from over seas.
So then buy the ph stuff and some rockwool. Learn about germination/propagation, check out harley smith's all about cloning video, it's like an hour long but the seed stuff is only part of it.
The seedlings don't need nutes or even 400 watts until they have true leaves, so you can just start them and then buy lights and nutes. The cotyledons will be fine any daylight bulb at 24 or 18 hours. You get what I'm saying?
 

CraxCorn

Member
3 posts while I was typing all that....

dude 30-40 plants in that space? You need to do a ton of research. My 4x4x7 tent barely fits 3 plants. I'd max that space at 4 with a shorter veg time, I veged too long. Next grow will only be 2 in there by flowering time with, hopefully I do I right, a proper scrog.
 

Markbarnett

Active Member
I was think in terms of like a sog micro grow in Dixie cups and get may a oz off each one I'd like to get to the point of 2 pounds every 2 weeks from 32 plants
 

CraxCorn

Member
Absolutely. In fact, that'd be a great way to go. One closet just for veg, two separate areas for flower, as long as there's no light leaks between them, on opposite light schedules. But really no more than 2 plants in each space.
 

Morth

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4x4 area can produce about 1 pound if your allot better at growing than me with 1-6 plants depending on veg time. So max in a 8x8 would be about 2-4 pounds if you do well. for 3 people i would imagine 2-4 pounds would last a wile if it's just for personal use. No need to grow 30-40 a cycle for 3 people unless your chain smoking chong blunts

Correct me if i'm wrong please
 

CraxCorn

Member
I was think in terms of like a sog micro grow in Dixie cups and get may a oz off each one I'd like to get to the point of 2 pounds every 2 weeks from 32 plants
I think you'll get better results and better bud from less plants. With one veg and two flower areas, you'll get a harvest every thirty days after the first. Do it right and you're getting a pound every 30 days from 2 plants. Either you're buying a shit ton of seeds, which will cost a shit ton of money, or someone you know has awesome mother plants and you're getting high quality clones from them...
 

Markbarnett

Active Member
We're keeping this under wraps so we will be doing regular seeds off the net but trying to get some auto flowers for the first harvest just to have some bud thinking 2 fast 2 vast
 

CraxCorn

Member
You're getting a bit ahead of yourself. Check out this video;


It's kinda long, but very informative. This dude knows a lot, I've heard him say a thing or two that are slightly inaccurate, but this is a great video. He gets to the three light rotation too.
 

Morth

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Grow Boss has some amazing info and seems when he is slightly inaccurate is when he is trying to sell one of his products. would also suggest
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtZNrdnAISbDeNAIJyQF5Pw
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC65Wtjuej_YyOOxg4PC-uhA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy04GJjGV07BTIRcjnx0dsQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCddPkGFe-dP016nKvgeAD7w
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEnIa3XxCaB5qtcnKXvdWjg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0SZFJIz6JCn1LxYKF4duQw

Tried posting only people not tied to products also check out the GrowTube Roundtable on CrazyDago's channel it's every friday night at 7pm PST https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzzCZoXYp5JH7QKhWadOQcA
 

Morth

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Mark are you in a legal state if so sure someone from that state could give you a lead for a good seed bank. Like in CA ocenangrownseeds or thecalliconnect but think they only ship inside of CA. if your not in a legal state i would use attitude seed bank or something similar

Also think soil would probably be cheaper to start then use the money you save from not buying your smoke to upgrade to the system you really want.
 

CraxCorn

Member
Harley Smith's videos are very informative as well, but he's trying to sell products too. Everything he says is scientifically correct, npk raw products are a waste of money though. His videos will help you read labels and know what you're getting when you buy nutes.
 

CraxCorn

Member
Mark are you in a legal state if so sure someone from that state could give you a lead for a good seed bank. Like in CA ocenangrownseeds or thecalliconnect but think they only ship inside of CA. if your not in a legal state i would use attitude seed bank or something similar

Also think soil would probably be cheaper to start then use the money you save from not buying your smoke to upgrade to the system you really want.
I respectfully disagree. Buying soil and pots, yea it will cost a little less, but not enough less to counter the difference in the better results with hydro. I started with coco, and really wish I had gone with hydro. I was nervous to go hydro, I thought it was confusing or difficult. It's really neither and less maintenance as well.
 
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