Laughing Grass
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one of them needs glitter if they’re going up against sparkly vampires
9, 40, or 45
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Kcbscrogger
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Such a majestic beast!Only the horse sees itself in a mirror
tangerinegreen555
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I speak softly and carry a big stick.
kmog33
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Sig or mag
kmog33
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Lol I’m a 40/45 I fee like 45 is a bit much in my location. 1911 definitely my fav carry
kmog33
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Everything limited to 10 here. Why the swap to 9?
absolute moron
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9MM. Because I found one that fit my hand perfectly.
Did a cursory overview of real world ballistics and realized that it not need be more complicated than that.
Did a cursory overview of real world ballistics and realized that it not need be more complicated than that.
kmog33
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What did you find?
absolute moron
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The cliff notes version is that in any realistic self defense scenario, for me, the order of importance is:
99.9999% how quickly I unholster/how well I shoot my weapon.
0.00001% ballistic impact differential in 9mm, .40, .45.
The odds of a scenario in which 9mm P++ would not stop a target that .45 would is slim enough that I simply did not consider it at all.
DrUgZrBaD
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I just carry tacos or watermelon it works well
Milovan1
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9mm Beretta 92FS
Never jams, fixed site, comfortable grip.
Camping out one night with friends I hit a nickle straight center
at 20 yards first shot.
92 FS - Beretta USA
The Beretta 92FS has been setting the standards for best military, police and tactical pistol for over a quarter century. The reason is that it was designed--and has kept evolving--to be and remain the most accurate, durable and reliable semi auto handgun on the market.
Never jams, fixed site, comfortable grip.
Camping out one night with friends I hit a nickle straight center
at 20 yards first shot.
92 FS - Beretta USA
The Beretta 92FS has been setting the standards for best military, police and tactical pistol for over a quarter century. The reason is that it was designed--and has kept evolving--to be and remain the most accurate, durable and reliable semi auto handgun on the market.
Oakiey
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I had one of those police trade ins in a 40,
Forgot to take the safety off early one fall morning, scared the crap out of that deer when i pulled the hammer back and it just fell,
Sir Napsalot
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Rapier
My Name is Mike
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9mm - compact, fast draw, reliable, large clip, no recoil.
kmog33
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I’m actually looking at the 85bb for my mom haha. My favorite running currently is hks p7m10, but looking into this he usp for the drop in weight.
kmog33
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Ime there is a very large difference in ballistics between 9/40/45, especially at super and then super long range. The plus p 9mm sort of seems
Weird to me because you’re essentially paying a bit extra to get the rounds closer to 40 ballistics and doing more damage to the gun over time based on the increased pressure/power of the load.
also, 9+p seems to penetrate a lot more with less expansion in most ballistics tests I’ve seen, which isn’t really what you want in populated areas.
but I agree 100%, find the tool that works for you in your situation. 9s are definitely cheaper in every way than 40/45
kmog33
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They’re lighter until you stick twice as many rounds in them I think. Frame/body wise, weight Of companies modes in diff Deere tank calibers tend to be pretty close to identical. Aside from some 45s/10mm because they actually need more mass to control the loads as far as I understand.