9 plants / 1000 watt mh/hps / 4x4 flood tray. ( seeking info )

Backwoodguy

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I have 9 clones . 7 chem Valley Kush . 2 Larry OG
The moms came from seeds from Cali connection .
Im wondering what the maximum yield I can get from 1000 watt mh bulb that puts off 120,000 lumens (digilux)
and when I switch to floweing I will use the hps version .(160,000 lumens)
I'm using a whole room but have a 4x4 flood tray . 8x8 rockwool cubes as medium .
I can veg for how ever long I need to and I'm using co2 at 1500 ppm.
My question is when and what training technique I should for a qp a plant dry weight or is this even possible ?
 

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hornedfrog2000

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It's going to be hard to get a qp per plant with kush that's for sure. If it were me I would either top for 4 tops, or fim. I think a lb would be closer to reality, but quality>quantity.
 
Backwoodguy

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hornedfrog2000 said:
It's going to be hard to get a qp per plant with kush that's for sure. If it were me I would either top for 4 tops, or fim. I think a lb would be closer to reality, but quality>quantity.
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Ok how long you suggest veg there still babies . And do you suggest any lst or suppercropping ?
 
hornedfrog2000

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I would wait for them to grow a few new sets of leaves, and then top them for four main colas, maybe around 6" tall or so. Then I would let them go to about a foot tall before switching to flowering. I have never done super cropping, but have done LST. Anything you can use to utilize the 4x4 area should be used. Search for how to get 4 tops on here for more info, and I would probably lea that way if I were you. I know kush can cause you to have a lot of undergrowth popcorn garbage that is not desirable if you're not careful.
 
Backwoodguy

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hornedfrog2000 said:
I would wait for them to grow a few new sets of leaves, and then top them for four main colas, maybe around 6" tall or so. Then I would let them go to about a foot tall before switching to flowering. I have never done super cropping, but have done LST. Anything you can use to utilize the 4x4 area should be used. Search for how to get 4 tops on here for more info, and I would probably lea that way if I were you. I know kush can cause you to have a lot of undergrowth popcorn garbage that is not desirable if you're not careful.
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I'm honestly trying to veg them a litter bigger than 1 foot tall I m trying to have them fully budded at 3-4 feet . They could get 5-6 feet if I wanted them but that's too big obvioviosly
 
hornedfrog2000

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If you're going to do 3-4ft tall don't top them for sure. Just maybe do some lst or something. They are going to be crowded as all hell. 3-4 ft means flowering at like 18" probably. For every inch multiply by like 2.5" to get your final height. Good luck to you.
 
Backwoodguy

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hornedfrog2000 said:
If you're going to do 3-4ft tall don't top them for sure. Just maybe do some lst or something. They are going to be crowded as all hell. 3-4 ft means flowering at like 18" probably. For every inch multiply by like 2.5" to get your final height. Good luck to you.
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Ya I'm pretty much just trying to fill up the tray with multiple tops and as tall as I can get them . Then I want to lollipop all the under growth that light isn't touching . Which come to my next question is when to lollipop . I never done this before ? Do I do in veg or flower . And what week?
 
wyteberrywidow

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I think with the 1k and a nice veg you'll be able to pull more than 1lb for sure even with a kush. I would not top them for 4 mains instead I would LST or super crop for as many tops.
The cvk is a big producer because of the chemd in it so it will be easy to get heavy yields off her.
 
Backwoodguy

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wyteberrywidow said:
I think with the 1k and a nice veg you'll be able to pull more than 1lb for sure even with a kush. I would not top them for 4 mains instead I would LST or super crop for as many tops.
The cvk is a big producer because of the chemd in it so it will be easy to get heavy yields off her.
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Ya that's why I choose this strain at what height and how long of veg should I do and LST to achieve 3 to 4 oz dry weight a plant ? I will be usin co2 also
 
wyteberrywidow

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That's why you will lst the whole time to keep them a certain height. Depending on the phenos you might get some stretch 2x-2.5x from when thy go in flower so keep that in mind.

You should be able to pull good numbers per plant but might be shy a QP per.
 
Backwoodguy

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wyteberrywidow said:
That's why you will lst the whole time to keep them a certain height. Depending on the phenos you might get some stretch 2x-2.5x from when thy go in flower so keep that in mind.

You should be able to pull good numbers per plant but might be shy a QP per.
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Ok so your saying I should LST now ? Or maybe when there about 6-8inches ? Also I want to try and lollipop. When should I do that or should I ?
 
wyteberrywidow

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Backwoodguy said:
Ok so your saying I should LST now ? Or maybe when there about 6-8inches ? Also I want to try and lollipop. When should I do that or should I ?
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Lollipopping and LST is 2 different styles of growing. Lollipop for sea of green so no side branches only tops from clones with little to in veg.
LST you are trying to get your lower branches to be like your tops which requires veg for a while.

If you want lollipopped plants then do a sea of green and harvest every 2-4 weeks.
 
ZOMBIESxWEED

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Backwoodguy said:
Just read it nice man, how much did you harvest dry ? And did you do any lst, topping , suppercropping ? I can tell you lollipopped
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Thanks man. Harvest isn't for another 5 or so weeks. From what I'm reading GSC is a 10 week flower. I'm setting my goals high for 2 lbs. I know it can be done in a 5x5 space but I don't think I have the right strain to achieve that. I attempted lollipopping and the plants love it everytime I remove all the lower growth so I'm hoping that will plump up some of those main colas.
 
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ZOMBIESxWEED said:
Thanks man. Harvest isn't for another 5 or so weeks. From what I'm reading GSC is a 10 week flower. I'm setting my goals high for 2 lbs. I know it can be done in a 5x5 space but I don't think I have the right strain to achieve that. I attempted lollipopping and the plants love it everytime I remove all the lower growth so I'm hoping that will plump up some of those main colas.
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Nice so you didn't do any training at all during your veg time ? Or did you if so what? And what week did you start lollipopping and when do you plan to stop removing the lower branches ?
 
ZOMBIESxWEED

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I didn't do any training of the plants, no LST or scrogging. I removed all the lower growth during the 2nd and 4th weeks of flower to prevent rotting mainly but they ended up getting lollipopped.
 
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