A Gift To the Disenfranchised.

So, My wifes friend found this movie, It's called zeitgeist. We watched it last night, and people let me tell you. It put into video very precisely all the bullshit that I've been unable to preach to the entire world. whether it was my personal misinformation, Ignorance or just lack of credible research. In one fell swoop this movie accomplished everything I wish I could have. It may be the most important movie you watch in the next 10 years.

go to this website and read the statement. You can then proceed to download it for free through a torrent application, If you don't have one, you can find a link for one on the website.
please, see this film.

I watched the whole 2 hours of this and was blown away, even though towards the end I had video lag, so just played with the slider bar until it could catch up..I highly recommended watching this film, thanks for posting the link!! Im still thinking about it..geeze.

good shit right???
and the whole idea, it's a non profit film. It's simply there to open your eyes.
I'm glad you watched it. I was beginning to think that nobody cared. or that maybe I had posted it in the wrong category.

what is a torent? is it a pain in the ass to download? I'll watch it ... but I hate stuff thats a pain in the ass to do
whats the movie about???

torrents (bittorrent) is a method of p2p (person to person) file sharing. basically you'll need to download a torrent application and then click on their download link and it should find your torrent app and automatically download to the designated folder on your computer (default for windows is My Documents/download).

it's easy... and there is a torrent program on the site available for download too.

tckfui said:

I hate stuff thats a pain in the ass to do

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hahaha, you know when I first logged onto rollitup, Posting a thread was a real real real pain in the ass. I couldn't for my life figure out how to do it. But I'm also a message board nooooooooooooooob and a real life boob. so, that probably didn't help much.

Zeitgeist - The Movie, 2007

my bad i must have had a brain fart and forgot to post the link.
you can download the movie or watch it on the website if you download it it's about dvd quality

haha
thanks
how do I know the person i'm p2ping with isn't an evil person???

they are all evil people

ohh no!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean... is it safe??? or can people do evil things to my computer while doing it???

i've watched like half the movie so far but i gotta say there are some glaring inconstancies in their theories.
exmple:
no plane debris at the pentagon or shanksville, PA.
-they claim it's a false attack site and the gov is duping us all but they fail to explain why there is no plane wreckage at the world trade tower sites.
-they also compare the "planes crash sites" in shanksville and the pentagon to a plane crash in nigeria to which they don't give a date or reference, but i can guarantee you that the plane in nigeria wasn't spearheaded into the ground.
(this is the last biggie as far as i've watched)
-they claim that the only why the two towers could have fallen, they claim at a rate of 10 floors per second, is via explosives. HOW CAN THEY TELL? there is a wall of dust that spans at least 15-20 floors, and the dust is falling at free fall speed. How can they assume the floors are falling in pace with the dust? That's my rant for now

ok i have one more set of complaints about their theories

they point out the steel I beams where cut at an angle and that modern demonlitionists use that technique but i ask you....how did they get access to the bare I beam? the only way possible is by ripping out some of the walls to get at the bare structure. if they did why didn't anybody notice people ripping out the walls?

they also point out the burning temp of jet fuel to be about 1500F well that's misleading. that is the running temp inside aircraft engines but if you add a lot more (say the entire supply of a long distance flight), then the temp will go way up.

-they claim it's a false attack site and the gov is duping us all but they fail to explain why there is no plane wreckage at the world trade tower sites.

they are saying that planes didn't even hit the towers???

I up unill recently believed all people who believed any 911 conspiracies must be an absolute retard. I took ofence to people thinking it was a conpiracy. I live in NYC and saw the towers fall. it is somthing I will never forget. the towers were quite visible through the smoke... until they were almost completly down.
the videos from a distance are onse that show it more clearly... rather than close up because of like you said all the smoke...
using the recording they can see how fast the building was falling...
i now too think it is a conspiracy... and that really really upsets me
fucking bastards

the to "sites" i was referring to were the crashes at the pentagon and shanksville, PA. the conspiracy theorists are saying that these two crashes were fabricated and their proof is the lack of wreckage.

my question is: with all the video evidence of the planes hitting the world trade centers, where is the wreckage? I'm not saying that this didn't happen. I AM saying that the same thing that happened at the WTC, happened at the Pentagon and PA. The force of impact obliterated the planes in to smaller chunks and the massive fires that followed due to the tons of jet fuel, melted the rest. keeping in mind that commercial airliners are made of mostly aluminum, which has a realities low melting point. So the lack of debris is not evidence of conspiracy.

and for a while they were saying that the towers 1, 2, and 7 came down due to planted demolition explosives.

having not been at nyc at the time i can't say what it looked like to the naked eye but having seen the video of the incidents, i can say that in these videos you can't actually see where the building is collapsing. all you can actually see is a mass of debris and dust falling. so to say that the building is collapsing at a free fall rate is a load of crap.

i still think that conspiracy theorists are moronic.

but not retarted... that is a step...
I live in brooklyn. not manhatan. and from where I was I had a perfect view of them falling... all you could see was them faling fast as shit... and I was also in school on the top floor so that helped alittle too... but theres tons of footage from people in even taler building recording it and you can see them falling the whole way down pretty much... and using math and paunsing each fram and crazy stuff I have no idea about they can get a pretty good idea of how fast it was falling.
I see what your saying about the planes not being there... but with the WTC there was blocks and blocks and blocks and tons of tons of tons of debrise
while at the pentagon and that other asshole place there was just basicaly holes... with little debrise.
look at videos and pictures of other plane crazhes... the diferences are astonishing.

Apparently I already had torrent cuz it played no problemo, if you have to download it I highly recommend it, it will be the most informative hour and 56 minutes of your life. it opens the eyes to the real world around us, what we were born into, the conspiracies are real people...history doesnt lie, it merely repeats itself. watch it okay.
peace be to all my ganja brothers and sisters. Amen.

i found it. this is a short article about that plane crash. but the key thing to note is this

The Blotter: Close Call in Abuja: Eyewitness to Tragedy

A Nigerian Boeing 737 passenger plane with more than 100 people on board crashed shortly after take off from the Nigerian capital of Abuja today

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the plane they're comparing it to is a 737 which is much smaller than the 757 (and therefore much less fuel) but also it crashed shortly after take off. which means it was going relatively slow as compared to the 757 taking a nose dive from cruising altitude(which is about 35000ft).

what this all means is that the plane in nigieria (737) leave much bigger chunks because it didn't take even a comparable amount force that the 757 took.

so yeah they were both plane crashes but they were comparing apples and oranges.

forget about the plane they are comparing it to... look at other plane crashes... most of them are wayy more destructive and alot more shit left over.

ok lets look at other plane crashes:

this is folker 28 that hit the side of a mountain:
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a bunch of little chunks, very similar to the crash in shanksville

a Tupolev TU-154M(russian airliner) that crashed about 20min after take off. so high but not quite cruising alt yet.
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with the except of the tail, notice the lack of large pieces debris?

a boeing 737 crashing seconds after take off
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notice the mountains of debris?

the point is the lower the impact the larger the chunks; the higher the impact the smaller the chunks. so the lack of debris at the pentagon and shanksville not that dissimilar to other plane crashes. To claim that those two crashes where hoaxes by the gov, when a lot of real people died on those flights, I find rather disgusting.