A Shift in the Dimension 3D

subcool

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I see so much talk about fem seeds and why people with limited space need to start feminized seeds to find a good female.
This project details me starting 2 seeds of one of my hybrids and I think you will be surprised with the outcome.

A Shift in Dimensions

What would happen if we combined the genes of three ultra potent Elite strains all with very different flavors but similar high types? This is the question I set out to answer when creating our new release “The Third Dimension”. The strain Apollo-13 has long been a favorite of mine and many other collectors, it has a very unusual taste and an amazing high. Only 500 of these seeds were ever produced and those lucky enough to grow her never let her go. I have focused a good deal of my breeding efforts in back crossing her looking for the best make up to create an Apollo like hybrid in seed form. We have out crossed her with Black Russian, Space Queen and Now a Combination of SQ and Jacks Cleaner. The second part of the make up is Space Queen a BCGA hybrid of Romulan and Cindy99 and delicious cross with a candy/mango flavor.
The final part of this potent three way is of course my famed Jacks Cleaner mom. If it sounds complicated it was and also a lot of work but thanks to the great people at Heads you will be the first to hear about the project.

Having had great success with our cross Jack the Ripper (JC X SQ) we decided to work with a male and pollinate the Apollo as we also use her to test a males attributes in a known cross. This means we have made a lot of hybrids using her and by growing out her off spring we can determine if he is a good male or not lending either potency and or a different flavor. Once the seeds were mature and removed from the buds I allow the outer husk to dry for 2 weeks and then I refrigerate them for 2 nights stimulating winter, this also removes moisture as well. I am going to try something a bit differently here and pretend I am your average Joe Stoner growing some plants and only having room to start 2 seeds. This will narrow my odds considerably getting a keeper mom but it’s the same real world choices you guys make everyday when it comes to making some head stash of quality meds. I started the seeds in Rapid rooters and transplanted once they established roots. The plants grew very well and under a 400 watt MH grew up fast, I was able to sex one of these at least a full 2 weeks earlier than the other, well that question has been answered and started just 2 seeds we have had great luck and have 2 females. They’re starting to mature enough that there taking on noticeable characteristics. I don’t see a huge difference in the two plants and at 30 days they look pretty much alike.

I am happy so far with this initial run and I can see traits from both mother and father. I mentioned one reason for this cross is to learn how dominant the JTR father we have chosen is going to be. JC parents are known to dominate crosses and Apollo-13 is or base line female since I have grown it out so many times and now also bred with her working this sibling cross will give me a good indication of how the father will react with other moms with use. The plants were transplanted into 5 gallon containers and topped to form a nice bush and when they hit 24” in height they were budded.
These are the signs I am looking for,
Early resin with fast formation of trichome heads and quick maturation of same. This will indicate a Apollo-13 dominant trait. Also I am looking for the weird funk/spice smell A-13 has to shine through and I have that as well. Now I am not testing the strain so much as running it for my own pleasure but while I am at it I will take notes on things to look for in larger generations. One day we will select either Vortex or The Third Dimension to keep as a main TGA strain but for now we can all enjoy the journey. It’s no secret I am a big fan of what Mr Soul did and I am just playing along following the path he blazed.
The shorter female I am extremely excited about having started only 2 seeds and finding an Apollo dominant female means to me anyone getting a pack has a very good chance of it as well. At day 28 she already smells like Apollo momma, heavy resin and short structure with thicker stems is dead on target I couldn’t wait to see what the second half of bud growth brings to us.
 

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subcool

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Day 35 and beyond



You never stop learning and the biggest leap forward in knowledge has been working closely with both Apollo and JC as well as the man plant Space Dude. We are learning what is locked inside the JTR male visually at first and by this point by fragrance. First off. The Apollo dominant female we call Jane is spot on the mark with A-13 looks and traits with a beefier frame and an added sweet I can’t place yet. Maybe from the Cindy but I was hoping for this exact make up in a female.


At 35 days you can see trichomes that are fully amber just like with A-13 and most are fully formed so were taking speed from the mom and the Bi-father SQ. I added support stakes after this shoot but I could have gone longer A-13 won’t stand up at all at this stage and that alone is a huge plus. I will of course stay on top of this so we can see what we have created. I am also happy to announce that unlike some of our gear this is a Sub project and you won’t see it going away of running out of stock. Just the outcross of JC x SQ and then selecting a male took over a year I don’t plan on loosing my male.
 

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subcool

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The sativa Dominant female is starting to pack on the buds though and this girl may get huge and hopefully not take forever. She stretched like crazy and I was sure at this point based on smell and resin build up, the buzz will be very speedy with high THC content with virtually no CBD’s, the taste to me is kinda metallic to go along with the spicy smell.

 

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subcool

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As the Indica reached maturity she took on very tropical smells almost like a Pina Colada or some other frozen drink containing fruits and pineapple. The resin continued to expend and she matured very rapidly. I took her at about day 50 and she was just dripping with resin and gave up 2 ounces of dried cured buds. For a plant not even 36” tall finished I am happy with the results and will keep her in my garden.

This one Made Big Book 4 :)


 

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subcool

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Here are my smoke notes
Toke 1#
Sampling very small micro nugs so they will be dry. Inhale is smooth and reminds me of a passion fruit drink I used to get in summer camp. Exhale is smooth and also surprisingly sweet. Instant lobe floating and I started smiling the second I exhaled.
Toke #2
Large inhale and crosses my eyes.
Excuse me one second
Subcool does the happy dance across the Room “IT TASTE GOOD! I am getting High!
Ok that’s what they call a conniption fit I believe.


Toke #3
Our bongs a simple straight glass piece with a large water bin.
I use a simple cheap V shaped 3 hit that I pack about ¾ full and I pull it through in one hit clearing the toob as well. Sticky takes about 3 hits to my one and this is not a diss to Sticky but a reference as to how large a hit I take.
I exhale a cloud


The Buzz on the Indica was soft and pleasant and I sat staring at my pc for quite awhile but I didn’t feel the need for a pot nap but ended up doing a photo shoot. I found myself smoking a lot of this strain in the following week even though I have full jars of some of my other favorites.


The sativa took a full 9 weeks to mature and as predicted the buzz was very racey and not to my liking however a good friend of mine that loves the energy head buzz of pure like sativas absolutely loves it. Even though the plant was very tall it’s total yield was only 3 ounces. I did a smoke test on this one and found the smoke to be flat as airy buds tend to be but after 3 hits I was soaring along jamming to music and smiling my ass off.
No one would complain about its potency and high but its not up to my standards on taste but variety is the spice of life!

The results of my little “plant 2 seeds” idea went very well and I pulled almost 5 ounces and some amazing bubble hash from these two plants. The Indica has been cloned and topped and is just entering bud as I type this ending. I am happy to give this one my stamp of approval!
The Third Dimension is available at
www.cannaseur.com
www.breedbay.co.uk/auction/index.php
www.Hempdepot.ca
 

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Phinxter

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excellent grow and smoke review. and also sounds like a very reasonable solution for those that dont think they have the room to go thru the natural selection process to find a "keeper"
great work and as always thanks for all that you and the Mz. do for us medical users
 

Florida Girl

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Hey Sub.... great thread.

I already had my order form filled out for some Agent Orange and Vortex beans... now I'm going to have to add on a pack of the 3rd Dimension :mrgreen:

I really appreciate your threads. I think it's great that a breeder actually comes to the community and participates and tells us in-depth information about their strains. It's worth so much more then the simple descriptions we get on the vendor's pages that we purchase from.

I'm really looking forward to growing these TGA strains :weed:
 

Rix

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It's great,thanks,to get info on this strain.I've just bought some beans,at what stage did you top?
 

Kerlito

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It's great,thanks,to get info on this strain.I've just bought some beans,at what stage did you top?
i´m very surprise with this strain 3d , at the moment is faster i grow ever , more than big bud. And very good form.

I would like to say thank to subrob for it , their are in veg , i think i have to come later to say this again , i hope do it until smoking it.

vortex is a bit not strong plant like 3d .
 

GANJGUY420

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I think this TGA strain is looked over too much! Clearly the 3D is TGA worthy or else it wouldn't be offered right?! Kickass thread Sub the dude approves! :cool: Ganj
 

montanachadly

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I just ran through a 5 pack of 3d on a suggestion from a hydro store guy. I can say that there was no disappointment in this run. I got 3 females out of the pack. A rotten fruit phenol, a straight up pineapple phenol, and my favorite the appolo dom one with a fruity pepper smell that finishes so fast done by end of week 6 early week 7 and covered in resin. Im def gonna go through another few packs of this because I believe that in these genetics there could possibly be a hash makers dream. All the 3ds have a good bit of resin but if you can find the ones that are dripping in resin your set. Just because they are so fast to finish and no shortage of resin. The bubble is no joke either really its full melt. Heres a few pics of my last hash run with just 3d trim from a 3 plants. PIC_0818.JPGPIC_0817.JPGI really hope this isn't on the list as the next strains to be dropped from the list. Ive noticed somewhat of a pattern with the stickys and the strains being taken off the menu. First it was Agent Orange then Pandoras and The Flav.
 

jpdnkstr

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3d is on my list... but what I really want to know is is there REALLY a coconut pheno :)
YES! I have grown a few 3D phenos, and a person who knows nothing of the strain, (except for getting to sample it), said "mmmmmm, tastes just like a pina colada!"
 
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