A Super Silver First

beautifuldisast3r

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First Post, first grow, first journal, so lets do this right.

Hello everybody, I want to say thanks to all the dedicated individuals who have contributed so much knowledge in the art of cultivating this wonderful love-bearing plant. K enough ass kissing now on to weed.

I picked up a super silver haze clone and a blueberry, however sadly I think the blueberry may not make it- perhaps you could tell me. Anyhow I'm excited about the Super Silver Haze as it's said to be one of the best sativa hybrids.

Here we go with week 1

First picture is the day I got the clones. The larger one is blueberry.
Second picture is the setup I have for the time being. Using T5 2 red bulbs and 2 blue. Medium is Fox Farm Ocean Forest Soil. Starting Big Bloom schedule tomorrow. I'm still missing a lot of the necessary tools such as PH meter and the necessary air setup to keep humidity in check. Right now it reads at 43% at 25 C.
Third Picture is the super silver haze after 1 1/2 weeks of pregrowth. I got these clones on a whim and was not financially aware to the extent of the process.
Fourth Picture is a sad sight :( I had to leave town for the weekend and didn't nearly water the blueberry enough for as long as I was gone. All the leaves were a shriveled up and brownish green, somewhat crispy. So I figured if I cut at the stem it might have a fighting chance in the nutrient rich soil. The inside of the stem is still green and the roots looked somewhat healthy coming out of the rock wool. Does it have a chance with no leaves???

quite a first post. thanks to all who have indirectly given me advice and to those will continue to do so in the future of this journal.
 

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beautifuldisast3r

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First day of feeding the kids some nutrients and a light bulb went off in my head as I was passing through my living room. The closet I have the setup in is right by my surround sound speaker. I suddenly remembered a 'Myth Busters' episode I saw that proved plants growth was positively affected by Music, especially Rock. Has anyone had any results with this?

Here's a pic of the crude setup, soon to change.
 

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FaCultGen

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lol dude... i don't want to upset you but that one is dead, by cutting all leaf and/or growth tips you just killed the plant...but maybe i'm looking at the picture wrong...but i'm pretty sure i'm just looking at a stem sticking out of dirt...not sure.

GL happy growing

-Cult
 

Inneedofbuds

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number 4 has had better days, thats for sure. I am not positive, but I believe a plant needs leaves to go through photosynthesis and produce more plant. I wish you would have taken a picture before you tore the leaves off. These plants are amazingly resilient and it may have had a chance at surviving.
 

beautifuldisast3r

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nah the leaves basically fell off when I picked up the plant. It's confirmed... gone. I'm the type of person that would keep watering the damn thing until someone told me not to.
 

beautifuldisast3r

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Almost a week into this with no problems. The plant seems to be taking to the nutrients provided as the leaves achieved a sturdy darker green from the center throughout.

At what point would it be necessary to switch from these cfl's to an hps?
 

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tokensmoke

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Well, first, you wasted a beautiful bud bearing plant by cutting the leaves off. Plants need the leaves to absorb carbon dioxide and sunlight and also moisture. Without the leaves, these absorbtions cannot take place, therefore, photosynthesis cannot take place which is VITAL to the growth of ANY plant. Therefore, YOU killed the plant. On the other hand though, if it is as bad as you say, then the plant had no chance at all anyways.

With that out of the way, I do beleive most growers switch to HPS during the vegetative and flowering stages. I will definitely be following this thread.
 

beautifuldisast3r

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Well, first, you wasted a beautiful bud bearing plant by cutting the leaves off. Plants need the leaves to absorb carbon dioxide and sunlight and also moisture. Without the leaves, these absorbtions cannot take place, therefore, photosynthesis cannot take place which is VITAL to the growth of ANY plant. Therefore, YOU killed the plant. On the other hand though, if it is as bad as you say, then the plant had no chance at all anyways.

With that out of the way, I do beleive most growers switch to HPS during the vegetative and flowering stages. I will definitely be following this thread.
Hey thanks for stopping by and also thanks for beating a dead... plant. :? anyway I understand that it was I who killed it in the first place, regardless of what I did with the leaves, however, I'm now focusing on this plant- the living one. :grin:

As far as the HPS is concerned, an idea of (specifically) when during these stages might be helpful to me. I appreciate your invested interest and I am looking forward to more of your comments.
 

tokensmoke

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lmao, sorry if I came on a little strong there bud, as for EXACT times, im not entirely sure, I am pretty sure though, that most will tell you to use your own personal judgement, if it were me, I would hook up the HPS halfway through veg and use it all the way to the harvest.
 

beautifuldisast3r

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Updated my light supply from the 96 W Fluorescents with an additional 250 W HPS. Starting second phase of nutrients tomorrow and here are some pics :)






 

beautifuldisast3r

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So super silver mary is lookin' a little heat stressed from this new lamp. I tried a number of ways including moving the lamp higher, the room temp still remained in the 90's. There was just not enough airflow. I exchanged growing spaces from the coat closet to my bedroom closet which has tons more room and the ability to ventilate.


Here's a pic of Mary. Leaves were rigid and curled up a little along edges. Heat stress?


Here's a pic of Jane (GDP). Similar edges, although leaves are curled over.


New Setup. After 20 minutes running temps are showing 85F. Better than 95.


Day 9 For Mary


 

beautifuldisast3r

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Been almost 2 weeks and Mary has been having some trouble with my noobness and adjustments. Overwatering, with that came nutburn and my previous setup was burning the plants. I flushed Mary's soil and decided to transplant her in a smaller container to establish a good rootmass. I bought some perlite and mixed that into the FFOF for better drainage. Mary has new growth at the top and is not yellow or burnt. Hoping Mary will pull through my mistakes. Current temp is 77F 30% humidity

Mary day 9


Mary day 13




Gran Daddy Jane day 9


Gran Daddy Jane day 12


Jane has been feed no nutrients yet, although did experience some heat stress at the same time as mary. Mary was obviously fed far too early as Jane is double in size and growth with no nutrients other than the soil. All are welcome to comment.
 

beautifuldisast3r

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So it's been a while- but... no dead plants. Yay

anyway, mary's a bitch to figure out but jane's been easier than shit to manage. Is this usually the case with sativas vs indica's?

So I put mary in the dixie cup to establish a root mass in less threatening conditions. That took a while, considering the damage that had been done, but it finally outgrew the cup and I transfered it to the bottom half of a 2 liter bottle. I wrapped it up and it's been there for a few days. The growth from the new shoots has been vigorous and healthy looking. It's too bad it spent most of this month stunted and hurt. I hope that it really shoots up during flower.

So a month of Veg, I understand a lot of growth will be in flowering and, certainly, Mary will be much smaller... When should I switch to flower? A week or two more? anyone?

anyway pictures...

Mary Day 32



Jane Day 30



I would appreciate anyone's help at this point considering the guess and check game is a little old. Happy smokin' :blsmoke:
 

beautifuldisast3r

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So I did some shopping found a slammin' deal on a 400W complete setup with a switchable balast MH-HPS for $200. As well as some other supplies:


New Setup:



I'm planning on transplanting Mary tomorrow and throwing them both into flower a week from now whether Mary's ready or not. I figure the sativa she is, she'll spurt up right next to Jane.

Mary Day 34



Jane Day 32



also I posted this in the newbie forum but the responses are just as empty as the ones in this thread are: The PPM meter reads my tap at 450 PPM out of the faucet. Could this be an issue? As always comments suggestions or just friendly banter is welcome. buhbye
 

beautifuldisast3r

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Alright kiddies. Another update. It's been raining around here lately and I managed to save some of that water. Perfect PH at 6.0 and a ppm of 30. So I have given the kids a break of all nutrients this watering and am excited to start the Tiger nuts with a little Grow big next week. I have been inspired by picksensa's grow cart and decided to do a ScrOG grow myself. So stay tuned as I'll be doing that sometime next week.

Pics:

Mary Day 39



Jane Day 37


 

beautifuldisast3r

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Wow, not sure if it's rain water, patience, or the last week of grow big but Mary is officially a happy camper. Mary was significantly smaller than Jane and right before flower, i noticed they were at the same height. 2nd day of flower and she's significantly taller, which I guess is expected due to the fact she's sativa.

This next watering, i'll be transplanting into the famous Natmoon Airbasket setup. I recently picked up 2 more plants from a friend in need of space. They are a little more advanced than mine but nonetheless in the same flowering schedule. We'll see a sidebyside with my plants in the basket vs his that are not.

I'm also going to be using Hygrozyme, anyone have any experience with this stuff? It's mostly geared toward hydroponic setup but I've read you can just add it to your normal nutrient feeding schedule.

Pics:
Mary Day 41 Flowering Day 2



Jane Day 39 Flower Day 2


 

natmoon

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Looking good now.
I think most of your initial problems came from using soil that was to strong for seedlings.
Always start them off in small pots with proper soil/compost that states that its for seedlings or cuttings.

All though some strains of cannabis can tolerate exceedingly high levels of nutrients when they are larger all of them suffer from to much to soon.
I never feed mine anything for the first 4 weeks and only use seedling/cutting compost.
Best of luck with them as you go along:blsmoke:
 

beautifuldisast3r

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Looking good now.
I think most of your initial problems came from using soil that was to strong for seedlings.
Always start them off in small pots with proper soil/compost that states that its for seedlings or cuttings.

All though some strains of cannabis can tolerate exceedingly high levels of nutrients when they are larger all of them suffer from to much to soon.
I never feed mine anything for the first 4 weeks and only use seedling/cutting compost.
Best of luck with them as you go along:blsmoke:
Thanks for takin' a peek and all the advice you've indirectly given' me. I am rooting some clones from my friend's Master plant and I'm definitely taking it easier this time around on the nutrients.

Day 43/41 Flowering Day 3
What a busy day. Pictures speak a 1000 words.


Inspired by Natmoon's Grow Journal and the Massive Success:hump: he's had with his Air basket Idea, I decided to build one myself. 2.5 PSI air pump. 2 spunge-like filters, 2 Ventilated Pots and necessary tubing with splitter.

Completely assembled.

Now that my friend has invaded my grow area with his orphan plants, the Grow space needed to expand. With no more closets large enough and the only room being my bedroom, I said fuck it I'm getting a hut.

Claims it requires 2 people... though I did this by myself, I recommend taking their word and getting a buddy, it's a bitch to do alone.


And an hour later, there you have it.


Don't mind the poor looking plant in the front corner. My friend handed this plant to me in a glass of water, where he had been storing it in a storage shed for a few days. I immediately planted it in the old 2 liter bottle i had set up previously for Mary. We'll see if it pulls through, I told him no guarantees with a plant that mistreated.

Mary and Jane in their new air basket setup. Wish I had bought longer hose. The pump's just going to have to chill there for now.

The healthier of the two plants he gave me. looks like it might have experienced some sort of heat stress in that storage. The new growth looks fine. This plant is what I'll compare to the air baskets as it is already 6 inches taller than Mary and Jane.

For the first time, I have some decent humidity in this setup.

Stay tuned for a ScrOG setup I have in the works. Thanks for Stoppin' by and as always comments suggestions or banter is welcome. :blsmoke:

:peace: and goodnight.

 

natmoon

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Looking good dude.
You've used a different kind of baskets to me,are they the 3 gallon ones?
I will bet you see a difference within a week:mrgreen:
Anyways best of luck with it and thanks for linking to my journal i really appreciate it,i will stay tuned and see how it goes for you:blsmoke:
 
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