Abolish private healthcare insurance

PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Fogdog said:
I merely recite what you say and you deny ever saying it. No, you lying sack of shit, not projecting one bit. I'm just speaking facts. You? not so much.
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Where did I say that I thought white people are superior? Show me that quote.

Budley Doright said:
Where does the you hiring workers come into play? Doesn’t your collective bargaining contract layout exactly what is expected of the union worker and employer?
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Business Agent runs the hiring hall, and is responsible for dispatch of workers to contracted employers. Contracts with the employer are signed by the business agent, who ensures that the employer operates legitimately. You are current however, technically the union doesn't hire anyone as the union is not the employer.

I am currently not the business agent however, since 9 years ago. I do however hire workers at my full time job, as my union affiliation is now only side-work for me.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Fogdog said:
It was about the "you will not replace us" kind of white supremacist white genocide myth and you know it.
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Thing is I never said that. or supported that notion at all. As I've said before, and something that social justice professionals support, is that yes it's important to know what races are being discriminated against when it comes to immigration. Having awareness of who is being discriminated against is not racist, rather it's quite the opposite. Just because you have a narrow view of specific words being associated with white supremacy, doesn't mean that was the intention of my words, and I've pointed out from the start that it was not my intention, however you are insistent to project such intention onto me.

The fact, is that I fully support open immigration, and I do not think that any groups are superior based on their race or skin color. I'm not sure how you think you can know my intentions better than I know them myself.

Also as I've said, I've studied social justice, and am aware that the color-blind mentality is not what scholars with PhDs in the field are advocating for in 2019. I've supported my position with multiple writings by professors and social justice professionals, but you haven't even looked at them, choosing to remain ignorant, while attempting to project your ignorance onto me.

Read the articles I've posted on the subject, and then we can have a logical debate if you like. If you choose to continue in ignorance and just shout "racist" or "gaslighting", it just shows that you are incapable of having a logical debate instead of calling names like a 5-year old would do.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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UncleBuck said:
This racist gaslighter thinks we all didn’t get exactly what he meant when he said “race matters when it comes to immigration, only 4% of immigrants are white!”
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Yeah clearly you didn't get it, so you decided to project instead of just asking. I'd love to debate you in person where you can't escape into 5-year old type antics.
 
UncleBuck

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PJ Diaz said:
Yeah clearly you didn't get it, so you decided to project instead of just asking. I'd love to debate you in person where you can't escape into 5-year old type antics.
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No I did get exactly what you meant, everyone did

You are very concerned about non White immigrants

That’s because you’re a racist
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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UncleBuck said:
No I did get exactly what you meant, everyone did

You are very concerned about non White immigrants

That’s because you’re a racist
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I'm concerned yes, but my concern is about discrimination. Not racist. Are you not concerned about discrimination of minoritized communities?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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PJ Diaz said:
Thing is I never said that. or supported that notion at all. As I've said before, and something that social justice professionals support, is that yes it's important to know what races are being discriminated against when it comes to immigration. Having awareness of who is being discriminated against is not racist, rather it's quite the opposite. Just because you have a narrow view of specific words being associated with white supremacy, doesn't mean that was the intention of my words, and I've pointed out from the start that it was not my intention, however you are insistent to project such intention onto me.

The fact, is that I fully support open immigration, and I do not think that any groups are superior based on their race or skin color. I'm not sure how you think you can know my intentions better than I know them myself.

Also as I've said, I've studied social justice, and am aware that the color-blind mentality is not what scholars with PhDs in the field are advocating for in 2019. I've supported my position with multiple writings by professors and social justice professionals, but you haven't even looked at them, choosing to remain ignorant, while attempting to project your ignorance onto me.

Read the articles I've posted on the subject, and then we can have a logical debate if you like. If you choose to continue in ignorance and just shout "racist" or "gaslighting", it just shows that you are incapable of having a logical debate instead of calling names like a 5-year old would do.
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when a person tells you who they are, one should listen. You could have said anything but instead you cited some bizarre false statistic that 96% of all immigrants to this country are non-white. Your mask slipped and you showed us what your are. It is completely understandable that a white racist troll would be upset that his cover was blown by a mistake. It's clear that you are trying to recover by gaslighting us just like your white supremacist president does. He denies things he said on the record just like you do.

pro-tip: It doesn't even work for Trump.

But you'll keep lying. I don't know why you keep lying to us. Nobody believes or likes you here. You should go to that forum you told us likes you. You need a break from RIU.
 
zeddd

zeddd

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PJ Diaz said:
Thing is I never said that. or supported that notion at all. As I've said before, and something that social justice professionals support, is that yes it's important to know what races are being discriminated against when it comes to immigration. Having awareness of who is being discriminated against is not racist, rather it's quite the opposite. Just because you have a narrow view of specific words being associated with white supremacy, doesn't mean that was the intention of my words, and I've pointed out from the start that it was not my intention, however you are insistent to project such intention onto me.

The fact, is that I fully support open immigration, and I do not think that any groups are superior based on their race or skin color. I'm not sure how you think you can know my intentions better than I know them myself.

Also as I've said, I've studied social justice, and am aware that the color-blind mentality is not what scholars with PhDs in the field are advocating for in 2019. I've supported my position with multiple writings by professors and social justice professionals, but you haven't even looked at them, choosing to remain ignorant, while attempting to project your ignorance onto me.

Read the articles I've posted on the subject, and then we can have a logical debate if you like. If you choose to continue in ignorance and just shout "racist" or "gaslighting", it just shows that you are incapable of having a logical debate instead of calling names like a 5-year old would do.
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Your use of notion renders you ignorable.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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I see that no one left in this thread has any reasonable debating skills and have instead simply continued with name calling and finger pointing. The is school yard stuff kids.
 
blu3bird

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PJ Diaz said:
I see that no one left in this thread has any reasonable debating skills and have instead simply continued with name calling and finger pointing. The is school yard stuff kids.
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Look Mrs Diaz, you've had your ass kicked all over this thread. You want more?

Putting people into separate groups and treating them differently based on skin color is racism, it's not "social justice".

You're a racist sack of shit
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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PJ Diaz said:
I see that no one left in this thread has any reasonable debating skills and have instead simply continued with name calling and finger pointing. The is school yard stuff kids.
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Debating requires an honest adherence to facts and the willingness to concede when the other person has the better argument. One example of your use of false claims to "win" a debate are your claims about Clinton made in this thread:

After 4.5 years, millions of dollars, and thousands of insults, the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails is over.

And absolutely no wrongdoing was found. Go figure.
www.rollitup.org


The ad-hominum attack that you made in your recent post is another example of why your "debate me" plea should be ignored.
 
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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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I finally got around to chatting with the billing department today about what they tried to charge ($9,233.47) and what my insurance company talked them down to (a still obscenely high amount)

They said the cost to simply admit me as a “level 3” emergency was $4,850

I didn’t ask what level 3 emergency meant, but I did ask if that meant I was charged $4,850 for a triage nurse to walk me through the sliding glass doors. They said yes.

I know the nurses aren’t being paid that well so I suppose their bracelet printer is just very top notch

Our healthcare system is a sham. It needs to be completely reworked top to bottom
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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My wife and I are opposed on the issue of urgent care centers. I think they should be abolished along with private insurance

She pointed out that I would have faced a less costly bill if I had gone to one, and she is correct. But they are still profit mills in strip malls who think medical needs stop existing between 10 pm and 7 am. I will never go to one based on general principle

This whole system we use is a mess. Your medical bill should not be predicated upon what time of day you have medical needs.

Just tax me on my paycheck and let everyone go get healthcare from the hospital when they need it

I’ll gladly pay more in taxes for this
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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UncleBuck said:
My wife and I are opposed on the issue of urgent care centers. I think they should be abolished along with private insurance

She pointed out that I would have faced a less costly bill if I had gone to one, and she is correct. But they are still profit mills in strip malls who think medical needs stop existing between 10 pm and 7 am. I will never go to one based on general principle

This whole system we use is a mess. Your medical bill should not be predicated upon what time of day you have medical needs.

Just tax me on my paycheck and let everyone go get healthcare from the hospital when they need it

I’ll gladly pay more in taxes for this
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We have urgent care after hour walk-ins here but they still are OHIP billed and patients are not billed. You wouldn’t go for stitches or a broken arm though. They fill a need for people that have no family doctor and saves resources at hospitals that are overrun with patients. I’m sure it is a different structure there but here they do fill a need. They have now started online care centres where as you sit in front of a monitor and talk remotely to an MD :(.
 
blu3bird

blu3bird

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Budley Doright said:
We have urgent care after hour walk-ins here but they still are OHIP billed and patients are not billed. You wouldn’t go for stitches or a broken arm though. They fill a need for people that have no family doctor and saves resources at hospitals that are overrun with patients. I’m sure it is a different structure there but here they do fill a need. They have now started online care centres where as you sit in front of a monitor and talk remotely to an MD :(.
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There's an app for my BCBS insurance that I can speak to a doctor through the app. I haven't done it yet, but I think it's pretty damn sweet.

As long as I didn't shoot a nail into my finger, I don't have to deal with a med center. The BCBS app is tits, no sitting in a waiting room with screaming kids for hours in some uncomfortable chair. No filling out tons of forms,. A couple of clicks on my phone and I'm connected to and speaking with a doctor BOOM SHAKA LAKA

I bet M4A won't have an app like that. I love my private insurance
 
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