''ace of spades'' & beyond

agreed. hmmmm. im used to leafs falling not long after the start off flower. but this may be over fert on your part? on the mandalla seeds link, they feel we all fert too heavy. they dont like alot of ferts. but again, their cuts are from land race africans, that are used to little more than rocks and hot air to live on. lol. '
back to your pics. one pic looks like over water. another, maybe over fert, but i think what u need to do, and it wont hurt em, is to mix 1 tsp of epsom salts, into a glass of hot water, to dissolve. add to one gallon water. and give em all some. pale leaves on lower branches, are often low mg. this should fix em up. maybe more than one issue going, tho. i have been using a high of 2 tsp per gal of flora nova. says 3 is max. but i have not done it yet. check out my albums. like a week or so old.

gosh im glad my shroom days are LONG BEHIND ME. dident do me or my freinds any good.....

i have been using cannas cannavega for soil. my plants in veg are very green! they like this stuff! harder to find then gp veg, which i have not yet tried, was thinking about it when i run out of canna. maybe not. lol. obviously, a bit more N, AND SOME epson salts with it! (one tsp per gal. or two)..

its only been 1 day since changing nutes & adding cal-mag but theyre perking up aos is a pretty heavy feeder in hydro i have about an inch of new growth ill prune off the damaged growth today & the recovery should continue & i should be able to clone next week-end

digging into the archives of my last grow of this [aos] i notice i had slight yellowing of the leaves they never did get that deep green color that some of my other strains did here is pics from last grow in veg these were topped early on

noice dude. hows that AOS smoke now that its cured a lil?

as far as smoking the cured product [8 days of curing] its about as good as it gets [pheno#9] rich deep smoke & giggly high nice sweet berry taste with expansion on the intake [if youre a hog it will punish you] now back to the nute problem its not as bad as i thought i pulled all plants out & trimmed all the defective growth off here is pics from today there is also pics of the 8'' fan & ducting to pull cool air from underneath my house into my room to lower high temps

theyre continuing to improve & getting slightly greener ill clone next weekend

i ended up with the day off from work which these days is rare so i seized the time to clone & prune off the useless bottom growth what phenos i dont use will go into other grows im not scrapping anything at this point as all 4 phenos are close in quality & yield

ok cloning is done & the bottoms are trimmed up also turned the light cycle to 12/12 cloned earlier than i had planned but it will be awhile before i can get this much time to devote to my plants which in spite of being a little yellow seem to be doing pretty good overall

im getting lots of new growth & as usual 1 plant that wants to lagg behind the others but im happy with the results of switching back to my old nutes these plants definatly like to feed

my growth rate is very good here is todays pics hard to believe how big of a change in a little over a week this prooves they were starving

Wow, I suggested the GO starter pack to my cousin to start off with...
Glad he followed in my footsteps and got the Heavy-16 line

their prolly used 2 Hydro nutes, i bet some strains prolly react well 2 the organic nutes and some are prolly like "FEED ME MORE" hahaha they definetly look not hungry anymore they were gettn a lil yellow before.

maybe in the hands of a better grower than me the g-o nutes would of netted better results i took the easy way out & went back to what i know i can make work im seeing lots of potential bud sites the smart pots & coco are definatly working & my clones look good too im off work today so ill be back with pics later....

ok here is todays pics

i doubt it was your fault man, haha they were prolly lacking in somthing, if you buy a complete nute set then it should include all essential vitamins n shit not leave out a bunch of nitrogen in the name of organics. i dunno thats just my opinion haha, you prolly could have gotten it 2 work but you prolly would of had 2 find supplements 2 add, and that defeats the purpose of buying a full line of nutes haha. i think you made the right choice, but then again im not a organics guy

hey dgl i have to say i agree with you on the organics i tried it & the results werent what i wanted in about 2 weeks i should have little buds poppin up & things will get interestin once again the coco & smart pots are keepers though so 2 out of 3 aint bad i had to topp 1 plant but the rest are un-topped & gettin big i super cropped a couple of them to fill in the back corners of my room tomorrow im gonna spray for mites [so far not a sign of them ] as the weather has turned off hot the organics are gonna be used in a soil grow where they should work

yah that makes alot of sense the base nutrients in the soil should make up for whatever is missing from the organic nutes. thats prolly what they were designed around cuz im pretty sure more organics people do use soil, ive heard them claim the bud tastes better out of soil than hydro, so i tried it, i ran a bubba in hydro and 1 in soil. the soil 1 did taste better and burn better, but wastn quite as strong and stinky as the hydro. i think im kinda starting 2 settle in the middle, i cut out alot of the additives i was using and switched 2 coco, but i just dont like using soil, its too messy for me indoors, im a super sloppy grower, i go by feel more than actual mesurements haha.

snapped a couple pics this morning gettin over an inch of new growth daily i cant wait for the first buds to show & according to my calculations i should have bud nubbins by this wednesday [june20] 10 days after flipping 12/12 if its the same from clone as it was from seed