Act Compost Tea - My Overview

TJ Watch

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Aerated Composted Tea not only provides good microbes, bacteria and fungi, who feed the plants, but those microbes also occupy the space and consume the food that would otherwise encourage bad microbes and larger pests. I have no experience using ACTs, but here is what I've found from googling pretty hard.

There are a few kinds of ACTS:

1) General Feeding: Worm castings and black strap molasses alone. For a 5 gallon bucket that's 2C WC and 1/2C BSM.

2) Veg Nutrient Tea: Many people consider this to be an entirely different thing. Start with earth worm castings, black strap molasses,, and then frequent additional ingredients: fish hydrolysate (high quality), alfalfa meal, Canadian sphagnum peat moss, soft rock phosphate, High N Bat Guano (Mexican), and a little kelp.

3) Fungal Nutrient Tea: Some people like to give an occasional batch which has more fungi, which uses more kelp -- at the expense of the bacteria.

4) Bloom Nutrient Tea: Some people brew a separate nutrient tea for the flowering phase. This might use high P guanos, such as High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican) instead of the hign N Bat Guano.

5) Foliar Tea: I think I can use general tea, strained and undiluted. I need to read more. It seems to be more about crowding out bad microbes and not attracting pests than actually feeding the plant.

*Note: You can find 99 different recipes in all shapes and sizes. Not many people categorize the teas like I did above. I listed the most common stuff that I observed.

Any of these teas need to be bubbled VIGOROUSLY for 24-48 hours, and a "pretty good" aquarium pump won't be enough. Remember to clean the air filter stones. The brews should also be stirred vigorously at least twice a day. Some people filter out the floating material, some don't. If you do, don't use a mesh so fine that it removes the beneficial fungi. Most pillow cases are woven too tightly. A 5-gallon paint strainer from a hardware store works well. I won't strain the nutrient tea, not sure about the general tea.

I'm growing in soil bags, 100 gallons of "pretty good" well-draining composted soil.

HOW MUCH? I've read as little as one cup diluted for 60 square yards! I'm skeptical, so I plan on using 12 cups per tree-sized plant, approximately one square yard. That is 720 times more than that. I'll dilute with as much water as the plants need.

HOW OFTEN? I've read one feeding every 1-2 weeks. Again, I'm skeptical. I plan on feeding every 3rd day, using the general tea for 3 feedings, and then using a nutrient tea on the 4th feeding; repeat.

PS: I have zero experience with compost tea, sorry. I've read for about 20 hours and this was my attempt to make cliffnotes from what I learned. I hope it helps! Maybe some comments below will correct, clarify, and extend this post.
 

MustangStudFarm

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It might take three seasons to get perfect soil if you really know what you're doing. But even with perfect soil, I think flooding the soil with good microbes denies food and space to the bad ones. That's what I've read... so its not just nutrition...
I am not a guru or anything, I was actually let down that my AACT brewer is not as important as I 1st thought. Hey, I invested close to $200 in it. $130 on the pump alone!

I made some rabbit manure tea the other day, and my set-up turns turds pretty well. As long as they are not big enough clumps to clog the bottom drain, everything gets turned well.

If you really want to get into building your own soil and like the idea of composting, you should stop by this thread. Grease is the guy that I am learning from!
https://www.rollitup.org/t/greasemonkeys-compost-pile.893592/
 

MustangStudFarm

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It might take three seasons to get perfect soil if you really know what you're doing. But even with perfect soil, I think flooding the soil with good microbes denies food and space to the bad ones. That's what I've read... so its not just nutrition...
I could be wrong, but if you have a healthy population of microbes, adding more will only make them compete against each other. I am only repeating what I have seen senior members talk about on here.
 

TJ Watch

Member
I'm thinking repeated fresh waves of good micro-organisms will indeed compete and eat all the food, meaning 1000 good guys vs. each bad guy, and then a few days later we do it again. And sure, each wave leaves behind some good nutes... but mainly, the bad guys never have a chance. But I don't really know. After reading a lot from experts I'm longing for a for-dummies version. Maybe the next wave will disrupt a balanced symbiosis, doing more harm than good. Well, this year I'm starting from scratch, with very good composted soil that will drain very well -- I got it today. With luck it will be better a year from now, and I'll never need to buy soil again, and a season's worth of tea will cost me 20$ per plant.
 

Yodaweed

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You don't need to do ACTs every 3 days, I only use it to refresh microbes if I think I killed some by letting the soil dry out too much(you should mulch soil) or if I used a harsh organic fertilizer like langbeinite.
 

greasemonkeymann

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I built an impressive air-lift tea brewer. I found out later that everyone said that it is pointless if you have built your soil correctly! I sill use it if I see any leaf curl or if I have to top-dress with something.

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nah man, a compost tea is ALWAYS a good thing to have in your arsenal, think of it like antibiotics for your plant, if it ever has any problems, like underwatering, windburn, etc.
it's crucial to have, just not crucial to use all the time, once your soil is saturated with microbial life it's not going to give you much of an impact.

but lets say, hypothetically speaking, you have a bunch of plants in your vege room, cuts, clones, phenos, etc, and they are so packed in that you missed that one little lady shaded by the bigger plants, and it wilted...
this is all hypothetical of course.. this would never happen to somebody, let say... with over two decades of growing experience...
nah... never...

yea.. I was a fucktard a lil while ago, overlooked a plant, so anyways i specifically brewed a lil 5 gal brew to help her bounce back..
Now it just looks like the lady went through a lil defoliating... albeit unintentional.
AACTs have there place, for sure, I just don't use them consistently.
Just as needed.
 

MustangStudFarm

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nah man, a compost tea is ALWAYS a good thing to have in your arsenal, think of it like antibiotics for your plant, if it ever has any problems, like underwatering, windburn, etc.
it's crucial to have, just not crucial to use all the time, once your soil is saturated with microbial life it's not going to give you much of an impact.

but lets say, hypothetically speaking, you have a bunch of plants in your vege room, cuts, clones, phenos, etc, and they are so packed in that you missed that one little lady shaded by the bigger plants, and it wilted...
this is all hypothetical of course.. this would never happen to somebody, let say... with over two decades of growing experience...
nah... never...

yea.. I was a fucktard a lil while ago, overlooked a plant, so anyways i specifically brewed a lil 5 gal brew to help her bounce back..
Now it just looks like the lady went through a lil defoliating... albeit unintentional.
AACTs have there place, for sure, I just don't use them consistently.
Just as needed.
It really does not bother me when you correct me!!! I end up learning a lesson
 

greasemonkeymann

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It really does not bother me when you correct me!!! I end up learning a lesson
I just didn't want you to think that compost teas weren't needed, they are a damn good thing to be able to use.
Plus you could brew up a microbe tea for your compost too
again probably superfluous on an established pile, but on a new pile it would help
 

MustangStudFarm

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I just didn't want you to think that compost teas weren't needed
I was really getting this idea from watching senior members talk about it, like it was pointless? It took the thunder out of my cloud that I was on, I thought that my brewer was cool and I was proud of it! I have 50lbs of dried molasses also!
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greasemonkeymann

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I was really getting this idea from watching senior members talk about it, like it was pointless? It took the thunder out of my cloud that I was on, I thought that my brewer was cool and I was proud of it! I have 50lbs of dried molasses also!
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isn't that binded with alfalfa pellets?
whats the fiber and fat from?
ash?
hmmmm...
you may wanna see if you can find unsulphured black strap, that's probably better for the plants
not that what you have won't work.
 

MustangStudFarm

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isn't that binded with alfalfa pellets?
whats the fiber and fat from?
ash?
hmmmm...
you may wanna see if you can find unsulphured black strap, that's probably better for the plants
not that what you have won't work.
That is how things usually turn out for me! I have no idea what "Roughage" is??? Maybe it will be good for compost and treating my yard? Why would they sell this at a landscaping store? The bag is still unopened!
 

MustangStudFarm

Well-Known Member
It might take three seasons to get perfect soil if you really know what you're doing. But even with perfect soil, I think flooding the soil with good microbes denies food and space to the bad ones. That's what I've read... so its not just nutrition...
I really was not trying to argue with you! I just saw your age, most of the new members are 18 and want to be a thug! Welcome to RIU, that is what I meant to say in the first place!!!
 

greasemonkeymann

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I'm thinking repeated fresh waves of good micro-organisms will indeed compete and eat all the food, meaning 1000 good guys vs. each bad guy, and then a few days later we do it again. And sure, each wave leaves behind some good nutes... but mainly, the bad guys never have a chance. But I don't really know. After reading a lot from experts I'm longing for a for-dummies version. Maybe the next wave will disrupt a balanced symbiosis, doing more harm than good. Well, this year I'm starting from scratch, with very good composted soil that will drain very well -- I got it today. With luck it will be better a year from now, and I'll never need to buy soil again, and a season's worth of tea will cost me 20$ per plant.
20 bucks a plant is a lil high
maybe just assemble the soil carefully and forget about any nutrient teas?
that's what I did, I got a bad back, so lifting and luggin 5 gallons of water is a pain.
another thing to consider is that your soil is basicly 100% "good guys"
not really any bad microbes that I can think of, except for maybe mold spores and such, nut those are different
in other words I don't know of any "bad" microbes that are a problem
 

greasemonkeymann

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That is how things usually turn out for me! I have no idea what "Roughage" is??? Maybe it will be good for compost and treating my yard? Why would they sell this at a landscaping store? The bag is still unopened!
it's a feed, so it's at a landscaping place probably because they do feed too.
most molasses used for livestock is binded with alfalfa, if I recall correctly
nothing wrong with that really, just means you'll be making alfalfa compost teas
 

Joe Blows Trees

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I like to give the left over tea to my two remaining soils still cooking and the sludge to my wormbin, they love it. I figured it would help maintain the soil life while it waits to be used. I'm making another cannabis sst to add to the tea I'm feeding this weekend. Hoping to water only until harvest.

Triaconatol is good, I believe alfalfa seeds have it.
 
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